- 6,276
- 1,157
Noumu (USJ Attack) is 7-C for fighting a weakened All Might yet a weakened All Might is 6-C on his profile. Did someone forget to update the tier?
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Nomu's tier is weird?
- Thread starter Nico-v11
- Start date
- Status
- 8,438
- 3,293
All Might underwent many revisions, including one that landed at 7-C. Nomu just didn't keep up with the revisions it looks like. He is absolutely around the same level as weakened All Might and is superior to the Detroit Smash which grants AM his 6-C.
- 20,514
- 17,417
Nah the last revision gave All-Might another key. Now its "Post AfO" | "After losing his quirk" | "Prime".
So Nomu scales to All-Might after he had lost the majority of his power due to giving Deku his quirk, rather than All-Might in the first few chapters.
So Nomu scales to All-Might after he had lost the majority of his power due to giving Deku his quirk, rather than All-Might in the first few chapters.
- 8,438
- 3,293
Ah, so that's what happened.
- 8,438
- 3,293
I think it wouldn't hurt mentioning that he fought All Might after he passed on OFA.
- 20,514
- 17,417
It may be better to better clarify the keys in All-Might's profile.
> Key: Weakened | Remnants of One For All | Prime
Remnants of OfA may've lead to this misunderstanding (since it may imply his form during the AfO fight rather than post-Deku). And/Or what Assaltwaffle suggested.
> Key: Weakened | Remnants of One For All | Prime
Remnants of OfA may've lead to this misunderstanding (since it may imply his form during the AfO fight rather than post-Deku). And/Or what Assaltwaffle suggested.
- 20,514
- 17,417
Seems like the OP and Assault were confused, but I could be wrong. Your idea gets the job done either way.
- 63,529
- 8,506
Yes he was 7C at the time
- 20,514
- 17,417
All-Might during chapter 1-2 and Illegals: First Key
All-Might from Chapter 3 to 94: Second Key
All-Might's prime before he fought AfO: Third key
All-Might from Chapter 3 to 94: Second Key
All-Might's prime before he fought AfO: Third key
- 20,514
- 17,417
Yeah, because AfO crtically injured him . But he lost the majority of his strength after giving Deku the OfA.
- 6,276
- 1,157
- Thread starter
- #20
So you're saying that Nomu was able to fight All Might a tier 6-C only because All Might gave Deku his quirk which weakens him?
7-C Nomu vs 7-C All Might makes sense but the 7-C key says with Remnants of "One For All."
When I think of Remnants of "One For All" I think of the direct fight between All Might and All For One in season 3 and nothing more.
Basically you're saying that "with Remnants of One For All" is when he fought Nomu? It doesn't make sense for him to have been so drastically weakened from a tier 6-C to a 7-C just because of a transfer of power.
7-C Nomu vs 7-C All Might makes sense but the 7-C key says with Remnants of "One For All."
When I think of Remnants of "One For All" I think of the direct fight between All Might and All For One in season 3 and nothing more.
Basically you're saying that "with Remnants of One For All" is when he fought Nomu? It doesn't make sense for him to have been so drastically weakened from a tier 6-C to a 7-C just because of a transfer of power.
- 20,514
- 17,417
So you're saying that Nomu was able to fight All Might a tier 6-C only because All Might gave Deku his quirk which weakens him?
Basically All-Might was 6-C. Then he gave away his quirk and became 7-C
Basically you're saying that "with Remnants of One For All" is when he fought Nomu? It doesn't make sense for him to have been so drastically weakened from a tier 6-C to a 7-C just because of a transfer of power.
We used the movie for the last thread, which included this image. While we agreed not to scale directly from it, it shows All-Might's power dropped more after giving Deku his quirk then when he was injured by AfO. So in other words giving up the quirk decreased his power more than losing like half of his internal organs.
Basically All-Might was 6-C. Then he gave away his quirk and became 7-C
Basically you're saying that "with Remnants of One For All" is when he fought Nomu? It doesn't make sense for him to have been so drastically weakened from a tier 6-C to a 7-C just because of a transfer of power.
We used the movie for the last thread, which included this image. While we agreed not to scale directly from it, it shows All-Might's power dropped more after giving Deku his quirk then when he was injured by AfO. So in other words giving up the quirk decreased his power more than losing like half of his internal organs.
- 6,276
- 1,157
- Thread starter
- #22
Haven't seen the movie yet (where to watch legal streaming of it anyone?).
Ok so according to that graph it was a gradual drop and not that quick of a drop either. How long was it from when All Might gave Deku One For All? Like a month at MOST. I don't see how he'd drop from 6-C to 7-C that fast and if it did drop that fast then by rate he should've dropped to zero long before fight All For One again.
So how I've always seen it was:
Prime most powerful
Weakened (hurt by One For all) = Nomu
Remnants of One For All = All For One
Wouldn't that make more sense?
Ok so according to that graph it was a gradual drop and not that quick of a drop either. How long was it from when All Might gave Deku One For All? Like a month at MOST. I don't see how he'd drop from 6-C to 7-C that fast and if it did drop that fast then by rate he should've dropped to zero long before fight All For One again.
So how I've always seen it was:
Prime most powerful
Weakened (hurt by One For all) = Nomu
Remnants of One For All = All For One
Wouldn't that make more sense?
- 20,514
- 17,417
Haven't seen the movie yet (where to watch legal streaming of it anyone?).
Dunno about streaming but the Funi site has it
Ok so according to that graph it was a gradual drop and not that quick of a drop either.
There were two massive power drops and a gradual decrease after each one. The first was from AfO which got worse because All-Might kept on being a hero and was just gradually getting in worse health. The second is after giving away the quirk and it getting worse for similar reasons
I don't see how he'd drop from 6-C to 7-C that fast and if it did drop that fast then by rate he should've dropped to zero long before fight All For One again.
He experienced a massive power drop, however, it was a one time large drop. In other words him going from 6-C to 7-C was due to giving up the quirk, and after that it began to steadily get worse but at a smaller rate.
Remnants meaning his actual almost complete loss of One For All.
After giving away the quirk all he had were the remnants of his former power
Dunno about streaming but the Funi site has it
Ok so according to that graph it was a gradual drop and not that quick of a drop either.
There were two massive power drops and a gradual decrease after each one. The first was from AfO which got worse because All-Might kept on being a hero and was just gradually getting in worse health. The second is after giving away the quirk and it getting worse for similar reasons
I don't see how he'd drop from 6-C to 7-C that fast and if it did drop that fast then by rate he should've dropped to zero long before fight All For One again.
He experienced a massive power drop, however, it was a one time large drop. In other words him going from 6-C to 7-C was due to giving up the quirk, and after that it began to steadily get worse but at a smaller rate.
Remnants meaning his actual almost complete loss of One For All.
After giving away the quirk all he had were the remnants of his former power
- 9,628
- 8,663
It was a gradual drop after he suffered the injury, but after giving OFA to Deku, the drop was massive.
> Remnants meaning his actual almost complete loss of One For All.
The Remnants of OFA is what he had after giving his Quirk to Deku, I don't know where you got that from.
> Remnants meaning his actual almost complete loss of One For All.
The Remnants of OFA is what he had after giving his Quirk to Deku, I don't know where you got that from.
- 11,247
- 13,132
That's not a gradual drop, that's a pretty big drop.
The second gap down is when he gave OFA to Izuku.
The second gap down is when he gave OFA to Izuku.
- 20,514
- 17,417
There's a large drop, then a gradual decrease, then another large drop, and then more gradual decreases.
- 63,529
- 8,506
It doesn't make sense for someone to go from High 4C to 3A by training on an island of animals, but that happenedNico-v11 said:
It doesn't make sense for someone to go from 8C to 8B based on a couple days of training or absolutely no form of training. But that happened
Fictional Powerscaling doesn't need to make sense, it needs to be consistent regardless of the reasons
- 20,514
- 17,417
Change has already been implemented
- 20,514
- 17,417
Don't see what else needs to be dicussed so I guess so.
- Status
