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Noah Osmont Infinite Speed Revision

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The focus has been changed to Infinite Speed for Noah Osmont.


Infinite Perception & Attack Speed For Noah Osmont
The first construct of the Infinite System was known as Infinite Resources as apart from its boons of making all different types of resources under Noah apart from Destiny, Fortune, and Essence of Reality Infinite...it granted Noah True Instant Cast and Attack! From his thoughts to the activation of abilities, there would be no passage of time. Mana efficiency and conduction where essence had to course through one's body to activate their intended skills...this would now be utterly ignored under Noah. No delay. Not even a passage of a microsecond or nanosecond! ~1562
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Cast Speed was just how quickly one manipulated their mana to call forth the desired skill to manifest outwardly, and Attack Speed was how fast this cast ability moved after it materialized. ~ Chapter 1212
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Noah can attack and think with no time passing.


Who Scales?
It will appear on Noah Osmonts profile like this:

Infinite (Via True Instant Attack and Cast, Noah can think and activate his abilities without any time passing, not even a nanosecond. Cast Speed is the time it takes to manifest an ability and Attack Speed is how fast the manifested ability moves.)



Agree: DarkDragonMedeus, Elizhaa

Neutral:

Disagree:
 
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Setsuna_tenma said:
yes
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Wouldn't it seeming like teleportation mean its not?

Also from the teleportation page:
  • Pseudo-teleportation: An imitation of teleportation due to short runs at a very high rate (much higher than the normal speed of the character). It may also be carried out at the expense of temporary transformation into a lightning / light / energy / astral entity (in this case, the character is able to partially ignore encountered in his way obstacles).
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He placed the focus on the {{Flame Lord's Authority}} as he encased himself in a terrible Armament, his body vanishing instantly as he turned into a flicker of flames that was faster than the speed of light, instantly appearing behind a World Rank Celestial Commander as his hand writhed in flames and grasped down. ~ 533
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Noah turns into flames that are faster than light.
 
I think this should be fine as the definition of Infinite Speed on this Wiki is: "Able to travel any finite distance in zero time, or move an infinite distance within a finite amount of time. Teleportation does not count." and this: "It seemed like teleportation, but this was even faster than that as it was an extremely rapid instantaneous movement that the Flame Lord could carry out in the area under his authority, instantly appearing anywhere in this region!" should qualify as he's traveling a finite time instantly. Only problem is that "instantly" could be considered hyperbole.
 
AyOgUyS said:
I think this should be fine as the definition of Infinite Speed on this Wiki is: "Able to travel any finite distance in zero time, or move an infinite distance within a finite amount of time. Teleportation does not count." and this: "It seemed like teleportation, but this was even faster than that as it was an extremely rapid instantaneous movement that the Flame Lord could carry out in the area under his authority, instantly appearing anywhere in this region!" should qualify as he's traveling a finite time instantly. Only problem is that "instantly" could be considered hyperbole.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking. As for instantly being a hyperbole, it is stated to be instantaneous movement and says he moves instantly a lot.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Seems to check out for Infinite.
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Thank you for the help. What about the perception speed for authority? I'm not too sure about that one.

Edit: Due to some anti feats I've found I have scrapped the Infinite Speed for Authority Users. I added scans for infinite perception and attack speed for Noah Osmont. Can you please evaluate that? Sorry for the sudden change.
 
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Tbh, I don't see why this is infinite speed, WHile they travel "instantly", I don't see it as an indication for infinite speed, but rather just extremely fast. Not to mention how they seemed to be talking about "milliseconds" earlier.

Also, there is no guarantee that teleportation is "infinite speed" in the first place.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Not to mention how they seemed to be talking about "milliseconds" earlier.
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It's not that it took a millisecond to move but that he moved in the next millisecond.
his gaze on the two Star Forgers being that of delight as in the next millisecond, his figure instantly vanished
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Dark_Soul20189 said:
Also, there is no guarantee that teleportation is "infinite speed" in the first place.
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I also talked to Setsuna about this.
 
Lycoris4812 said:
It's not that it took a millisecond to move but that he moved in the next millisecond.
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Not saying they moved in milliseconds, but rather concerning how they went from milliseconds to instantaneous, meaning it sounds more like going from a high speed to an even higher speed.

Lycoris4812 said:
I also talked to Setsuna about this.
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That just proves it's faster than SoL, not that it's infinite speed.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Not saying they moved in milliseconds, but rather concerning how they went from milliseconds to instantaneous, meaning it sounds more like going from a high speed to an even higher speed.
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I don't understand, how does that not make it infinite speed?
Dark_Soul20189 said:
That just proves it's faster than SoL, not that it's infinite speed.
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I'm trying to say it's not teleportation but physical movement.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Simple, We either need him to move an infinite distance or in 0 time, "instantly" or "instantaneously" doesn't prove either.'
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Well, we'll see what DDM thinks about it.

I also have this but it's only for attack speed:
The first construct of the Infinite System was known as Infinite Resources as apart from its boons of making all different types of resources under Noah apart from Destiny, Fortune, and Essence of Reality Infinite...it granted Noah True Instant Cast and Attack! From his thoughts to the activation of abilities, there would be no passage of time. Mana efficiency and conduction where essence had to course through one's body to activate their intended skills...this would now be utterly ignored under Noah. No delay. Not even a passage of a microsecond or nanosecond! ~1562
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Cast Speed was just how quickly one manipulated their mana to call forth the desired skill to manifest outwardly, and Attack Speed was how fast this cast ability moved after it materialized. ~ Chapter 1212
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Regarding the infinite speed proposal, the easiest way to see if there's a problem with it is to see if there are antifeat afterward.

This does seem like infinite attack speed, however.
Lycoris4812 said:
Well, we'll see what DDM thinks about it.

I also have this but it's only for attack speed:
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SweetDao said:
Regarding the infinite speed proposal, the easiest way to see if there's a problem with it is to see if there are antifeat afterward.

This does seem like infinite attack speed, however.
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should also be infinite perception since even his thoughts/manipulation of his mana occurs in 0 time
 
Lycoris4812 said:
What kind of antifeats?
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In the OP, you're trying to get infinite speed via those few statements, but if, later down the chapters, there is contradictory statements like "X goes at the speed of light and I can't catch him" or something like that, it would obviously show that it isn't infinite speed.
 
SweetDao said:
In the OP, you're trying to get infinite speed via those few statements, but if, later down the chapters, there is contradictory statements like "X goes at the speed of light and I can't catch him" or something like that, it would obviously show that it isn't infinite speed.
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Welp, I found a couple of anti-feats, so I guess I'll take the infinite speed for law users off the proposal.
 
I was reading the text. And it literally does say "Move and attack with not a single passage of time" which taking exactly 0 time to move and attack does check out for an infinite speed speed feat. So I do agree.
 
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