Shadow Figure (His alias) was able to
fight P.K.O., and utterly outclass K.O. normally. But fine, for your sake, let's assume Shadowy Figure > Professor Venomous, since later on they're depicted as separate entities.
Shadowy Figure is a
Turbo manifestation of the powers that Venomous lost during the Sandwich Incident, an alter ego he accidentally created through
years of self-experimentation and bioengineering. Unlike Venomous, Shadowy Figure
possesses dark, Turbo power, and unlike Venomous, Shadowy Figure is an
actually powerful and capable combatant, whereas Venomous sticks to the sidelines and falls back on his many technological advancements and chemistry projects. Hell, Carol reveals that, even as Laserblast,
he was a pushover and relied on his powers.
Professor Venomous was able tank two tackles from Carol, and casually weave through all of her punches, a HIGH LEVEL HERO:
The word "tank" here is being used
very loosely. Carol is not crashing Venomous with the weight of a thousand suns or anything, she is just tackling him. And, even still, she is depicted as vastly physically superior to him, to the point where Venomous needed to rely on his chemistry projects and agility in order to escape her. And, even,
even still, he was clearly pained by the tackles.
Him evading her attacks is not really relevant to the discussion of Attack Potency.
Although, based on what K.O. said after his attacks were ineffective, he implied his attacks weren't effective because they lacked large surface area, stating that she was too large.
Her being really big does not undermine the fact that his Power Fists literally had no effect on her. They could not even graze her. To them, Cosma was practically invulnerable; not a single inch of her body, even her face, was remotely fazed by the attacks. That is an indication of vastly superior amounts of durability.
Cosma even without being large should honestly be Large Planet level if not higher.
Make a CRT then.
After blowing up part of the Moon, the Sun was shown being scared and retreated, not wanting to also be destroyed.
At best, she would receive a "possibly
Star level", but that was with her reality warping powers and
not physical ability.
Molecular Malleability only changes her size, not her statistics. Or it shouldn't anyway.
Her
Large Planet level rating comes from her size and completely physical strength-oriented; although, that is completely ignoring the fact that Cosma is nowhere near Earth or any planet for that matter, meaning the 9.801 m/s^2 figure would be null and void.
Furthermore, the page for Large Size Calculations states this:
That follows a simple conservative estimation: Any character can at least just fall unto someone. In other words, their potential energy can be used to attack.
However, at no point do we ever witness this planet-sized Cosma in an environment where she could realistically apply her weight or her potential energy to combat, considering her only on-screen appearance (and off-screen mentions, for that matter) are in outer space, where there is zero gravity, and she is constantly flying or hovering.
First of all, the Kinetic Energy from the slap would actually be greater than the resting potential energy of her body.
Not at all.
An arm is a rather small part of the body, relatively speaking. The average volume of a typical arm is
~280 mL (cm^3), compared to the
62,000 cm^3 of a typical human body; for clarification, the arm makes up approximately 0.45% of the human body. If we were to apply the kinetic energy formula to the mass of her arm, the result would only be low-end
Multi-Continental level — ~8.3e+25 joules, using typical punch speed as a reference; anything else would be Calc Stalking.
Besides that, why would a fraction of her body generate more energy than the whole of her
planetary figure?
Not to mention, the slap wasn't casual.
Erm, just looked back at the clip.
The slap may not have been casual, sure, but K.O. and Enid also weren't directly hit. Cosma only struck the motorbike, and
that was enough to send them hurtling through space and dazing them.
That's just Area of Effect fallacy. Why would Radicles blow up his homeworld?
He was reckless enough to leave a giant fissure in his homeworld.
Just because a verse has anti-feats, or I guess in this case more feats on a lower level doesn't mean that they don't scale to a certain level.
This single
Large Planet level calculation is the only one that high in the entire series. Everything else in the
entire series that does not scale to the god-tiers (i.e., T.K.O. and Cosma) are Tier 9 to Tier 7, with a few Tier 6 calculations for the late-game high-tiers. That would be the
very definition of an outlier.
An Outlier is an event or incident that is considered to be completely and irreconcilably inconsistent with a character, entity, group, or series' normal displayed level of power.
These characters, K.O. and Enid, clash with characters who are consistently urban and nuclear levels of power, and suddenly they are planetary in scale because they took a casual swat from a character who they are depicted as being practically infinitesimal compared to?
This would scale to characters like K.O., Rad, and Enid. Radicles scales to K.O. and Enid whom tanked two attacks from Cosma, each with minimal damage. One of the attacks being thrown by her when enraged after having a moon tossed into her.
Are you not understanding the flaw in this logic? K.O. and Enid are supposed to scale to a character who they are incapable of harming without
literally throwing a moon at her; an attack that, mind you, hardly did any damage even then? Is Cosma
actually invulnerable, or are they fluctuating powerhouses like the likes of SpongeBob SquarePants? There is no logical way to scale the two of them to giant Cosma and her
Large Planet level when they are:
- Consistently portrayed as comparable to characters of far smaller scales and far lower levels of power
- Portrayed within the very same episode as too far behind Cosma to scale to her, even remotely
Like Dragon Ball for example. They have hundreds if not thousands of building to city level feats that they pulled off at full power, yet we don't scale them to that level.
We do not scale
Dragon Ball characters to urban and nuclear levels because they have clear, explicit, substantiated, and consistent statements and feats that range from the planetary to the solar and galactic.
They have rational and unchanging evidence to support their current sci-fi tiers. K.O. and Enid do not.
Not to mention, we don't know if she's a "threat" because all she does is reflect K.O.'s own attack back at him thanks to attack reflection and the fight cuts off.
She
ate his Power Fist, pretty nonchalantly. And not even from regular K.O. either. This was from M.K.O., from the end of series.
Cosma's undoubtedly one of the stronger characters in the series narratively, but by Season 3, she's clearly caught up to.
"Narratively"? What do you mean "narratively"? She is narratively set up as a truly villainous character who traverses the galaxy in her free time — a feat K.O. and Enid needed the space motorbike to accomplish — and eats planets in her spare time. She is narratively portrayed as still superior to them.
The best I'd be willing to settle for is baseline 5-A characters.
Too bad.
I've never seen bullets that looked like that in my entire life.
Pew, pew, pew.
Not to mention, you yourself gave evidence for them being lasers in the comments.
two years ago.
Firstly, it comes from a similar technological source (Funny enough, Lord Boxman's bots should be more advanced due to being YEARS newer) as a robot who fired a laser that reflected off of a mirror.
They are not similar at all, nor do they appear similar. In fact, the lasers Steamborg fires are not even from a technological source;
they originate from his organic eye, which Rippy Roo even managed to temporarily blind with said laser.
There are none of those.
FTL feats from early on in the series (K.O. circling the globe twice, and all the villains on the ship being able to react to the FTL debris coming from the moon, including fodder villains such as Lord Boxman who are beneath Enid, Radicles, and K.O.'s level meaning they'd still scale to that level regardless).
No, that is cool and all, but that only scales to reactions and combat speed.
(I'll watch it later)
