Ninjago: Upgrade and more Abilities

[REX9097]

1. Dragon form key
This is the strongest form of the Ninja (except for Lloyd) as it gives Ninja new capabilities and powers and I will talk about Feats, Statements and Abilities in Dragon Form:

• Should be upgrade to 2-C:
  • The Ninja in Dagon from their powers are enhanced by Golden power which is said to be able to defeat all Oni, who can destroy all realms. Also Golden power able to create the Golden Dragon which is said to be superior to The Overlord original form, also stated to be stronger than Darkness, which can destroy entire realms.

Note (1): Golden Power is Golden Energy, but only the name is different.

• It has been proven that Ultra Dragon is made up of elements (Referred, GUD is the Manifestation of the four original ninja's powers, and TGW lost a great deal her power after Zane absorbed the Golden Power from GM, and The GWs lost their power at the end of S10), and each head has the power of one of the Ninja elements. Ultra Dragon using the Lightning elemental and Fire elemental can harm the Crystal King, this feat will go to Jay and Kai (Dragon form). Ultra Dragon using the Ice elemental can freeze The Crystal King, even could also overpower the Crystal King's blast, this feat will go to Zane. Also Ultra Dragon using the fire elemental can managed to petrify the Crystal King and even harm the Crystal King. Cole Dragon form comparable to Ninja Dragon form.

• Abilities and Hax:
  • All previous abilities
  • Matter Manip, Energy Manip, Elemental Manip, Life Manip, Biological Manip and Creation: stated to be have power of creation, which has the ability to combine 4 elements (which are fire, ice, earth and lightning) to form the energy of creation, and the Elemental Essence of Creation, which allows the user to freely create something out of nothing, shape existing objects, change them, or imbue life into them, as well as take it away.
  • Transmutation and Flight
  • Likely Dimensional Travel and Portal Creation: Considering that they have become dragons and also have the power of creation, they should be comparable to other Dragons who can open a portal to the Ethereal Divide and author realm.
  • Statistics Amplification and Empowerment: Dragon form increase the users strengths and abilites. Dragon form Ninja's elemental powers are amped by Golden Energy
• Resistance:
  • Power Nullification: Dragon form is like Oni form immune to Vengestone which can negate elemental powers, and even Ninja were able to stay in their Dragon form, as they litterally destroyed the Vengestone Warriors, which are powered up by the Vengestone.
  • Biological Manip, Corruption (Both), and Morality Manip: In Dragon form, Ninja is unaffected by infectious crystals which that can turn creatures into crystals and has the ability to corrupt the victim and turn that victim evil.

Note (2): You should check the Elemental Powers page, because Elemental Masters have Resistance to Corruption (2 and 1) so we'll call this in Dragon Form key "Enhanced Resistance to Corruption (Both)"

• Range upgraded:
  • possibly Interdimensional with creation: Should be comparable to TGW's power over Creation, which can open portal to another realms. Should be comparable to other Dragons, which can open portal to the Ethereal Divide, which is an interdimensional realm.

Agree: @Lloydblitzed, @Hellformer, @Ar1216789, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Planck69, @OMNIVERSAL-KING, @GarrixianXD, @LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
Neutral:

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2. Minor Upgrade

• The Golden Weapon:
  • Range: Able to open portal to another realms, so should be Interdimensional.
  • Lifting Strength: Class T: Comparable to Scythe of Quakes, which can move the mountain.
• FSM:
  • Intelligence: Supergenius Extraordinary Genius; Before merge, he created the dragon cores, a powerful pieces of energy source dragon, and able to realms were prevented from smashing into one another. He gained a complete understanding of balance, which acts as a force over all the realms and the nature of the universe. He was able to create the Golden Weapons, which created vortex through space and time, and wished ever you want, and create and destroy worlds. He was a being of infinite wisdom.
  • Stamina: Infinite: FSM's stamina is said to be Very High. Although it was said that his power is infinite, and in fight with The Overlord, Misako stated this fight could have gone on for eternity, but the fight didn't continue because The Overlord created The Stone Army who turned the outcome of the fight in The Overlord's favor and FSM was splited the continent in half to imprison The Overlord on Dark Island and stop The Stone Army.
• Source Dragon:
  • Striking Strength: Low Multiverse: The Source Dragon page says that SD has Low 2-C likely 2-C Striking Strength. This should be adjusted to 2-C. Comparable to Lloyd with SDP, it is mentioned that he is able to affect every existence. The SD page says that SD is stronger than FSM, who was able to keep up with The Overlord. We have UES for Elemental Essence and SD is ranked among users of Elemental Essences.
• Digital Overlord:
  • 3-A, likely Low 2-C: The Digital Overlord can control the Digiverse, and some will now say that Digiverse is only a fantasy world, but Digiverse is considered as different universe "Virtual Universe", with different rules, and is referred to as the "Digital Realm" and "World".

Note (3): We should put a note on this page to avoid a lot of people who think that Digiverse is not a universe. Also regarding "different rules" it is said that Digiverse has different rules than Ninjago since this Digiverse is based on the rules of The Overlord, so The Overlord should be have Law Manipulation in Digital Overlord key.
Agree: @Lloydblitzed, @Hellformer, @Ar1216789, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Planck69, @OMNIVERSAL-KING, @GarrixianXD, @LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
Neutral:

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3. New Characters abilities:

• The Crystal King:
  • Crystal Manip: Giving Harumi a crystal to make put it in the Oni Temple and then this crystal became big and spread throughout the Oni Temple.
  • Biological Manip and Morality Manip: infectious crystals that can turn creatures into crystals and has the ability to corrupt the victim and turn that victim evil.
  • Resistance to Power Nullification: Even when surrounded by Vengestone his powers were not affected by it indicating that he is not affected by Vengestone.
  • Power Bestowal: He give power and abilities for the Council of the Crystal King.
  • Social Influencing: Convince Harumi to help him destroy the balance and ninjago.
• the Weapons of Destruction:
  • Explosion Manip: When things come together, they explode instantly.
  • Biological Manip, Corruption, and Morality Manip: She is surrounded by infectious crystals that can turn anyone who touches them evil.
• FSM:
  • Cosmic Awareness: Comparable to Wu, he knew about things that would threaten realms in the future like Mergequake and Army Oni.
  • Memory Manip: He made Lloyd believe that he was dreaming that he met the FSM but in reality he was really met FSM in his realm.
  • Law Manipulation: Created Realm Crystal has the ability to open a portal to The Cursed Realm and other realms and can free imprisoned souls and the Preeminent, meaning it has broken the rule of the Cursed Realm (the rule that If you want to re-summon someone from the Cursed realm, the one who originally benished them has to take their place in the realm).
  • Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1): See, we did this CRT before and it was rejected because Balance was not approved as a concept but now no, Balance is approved as a concept, so let's move on to talk about how FSM can get Conceptual Manip. It is mentioned that FSM created light and peace which is reason for the existence of Balance in Ninjago since this is cause to the existence of The Overlord in Ninjago, because Balance is most be between "Light and Dark", where every realm must have balance, this indicates that he created balance (light) in the Ninjago universe, which makes him have Conceptual Manip via creation, let we remind you you that he is also during a his fight against The Overlord it was mentioned that the Balance was affected by them. Also USM should be have same Considering that he has the ability to FSM, and he has the ability to destroy The Overlord Original form, which is embodiment of darkness and evil and source of darkness and evil, and he represents darkness.
  • Abstract Existence (Type 1or 2): FSM's represents the light, and he it is part of Balance, as explained and agreed upon here, Balance is a concept, so the FSM must be an embodiment of light, and has authority over the concept of light since it is the one who created it.
• Oni form:
  • Resistance to Power Nullification, Biological Manip, Corruption, and Morality Manip: Oni Form is immune to Vengestone as it is unaffected by Power Nullification and cannot be affected by infectious crystals, since Oni Garmadon can easily destroy infectious crystals with not affected.
• Ninja (Kai, Zane, Cole, and Jay):
  • Acausality (All Ninja): Type 1; They still remembered that went back in time and destroyed Garmadon's mega weapon, even after they time paradoxe was change by The Golden Weapons.

Agree: @Lloydblitzed, @Hellformer, @Ar1216789, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Planck69, @OMNIVERSAL-KING, @GarrixianXD, @LordGriffin1000
Disagree:
Neutral:
4. Ghost Physiology
I also created a sandbox page about Ghost in Ninjago

Sandbox

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Lloydblitzed]

So many things

Will reply in a bit

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Agree with everything except with the fact FSM no longer represents the light

 

[REX9097]

Agree with everything except with the fact FSM no longer represents the light

Can you explain why?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Can you explain why?

it wouldn't make sense with the concept of the balance, unless u can explain who holds the light side rn

 

[REX9097]

Bump

 

[Hellformer]

W, I agree with all

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright to me.

 

[Ar1216789]

Good job, I agree.

 

[REX9097]

There are rules of time in Ninjago so the Digiverse must also has rule of time, so it must be Low 2-C.

 

[OMNIVERSAL-KING]

Agree

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I was actually doing a page on Ghost Physiology tbh, which would deepen in how their Intangibility works, but ehhh I can do a separate CRT on it anyway ig

 

[REX9097]

Bump

 

[Planck69]

Additions seem fine at a glance.

 

[REX9097]

Additions seem fine at a glance.

So you agree?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

So you agree?

He said it looks fine, that means he agree obviously

 

[REX9097]

He said it looks fine, that means he agree obviously

Yes, but I didn't read correctly .

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Yes, but I didn't read correctly .

I will go apply the changes

 

[REX9097]

I will go apply the changes

Don't we need 3 approvals?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Don't we need 3 approvals?

In order to ensure that all revisions are thoroughly reviewed and approved, it is necessary for a minimum of two staff members to sign off on any proposed changes. The concluding evaluations must be handled by Thread Moderators, Administrators, and Bureaucrats, who should make an effort to base their evaluations on valid arguments, not personal opinions.

I don't really think Ninjago fit the popular series rule:

In cases where the series verse has a significant following or a large amount of material has been published based on its content, it may be necessary to seek approval from a minimum of three staff members to ensure that all relevant parties are aware of and agree with the proposed revisions.

 

[REX9097]

I don't really think Ninjago fit the popular series rule:

Ok

 

[REX9097]

So this like done, we can close it.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

So this like done, we can close it.

ye, Im just applying changes rn

 

[REX9097]

ye, Im just applying changes rn

I will finish The Overlord, USM, Jay, Cole, Zane, and FSM.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I will finish The Overlord, USM, Jay, Cole, Zane, and FSM.

Im already editing Cole

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I disagree with many proposals, but since this was applied, this thread can be closed and I’ll just create a new one.

 

[REX9097]

• FSM:
  • Intelligence: Supergenius; Before merge, he created the dragon cores, a powerful pieces of energy source dragon, and able to realms were prevented from smashing into one another. He gained a complete understanding of balance, which acts as a force over all the realms and the nature of the universe. He was able to create the Golden Weapons, which created vortex through space and time, and wished ever you want, and create and destroy worlds. He was a being of infinite wisdom.

I don't think this is good it's bad, Golden Weapons and dragon cores weren't made from his intelligence but from his power so he shouldn't be a Supergenius.
Maybe only "He gained a complete understanding of balance, which acts as a force over all the realms and the nature of the universe." is Genius

• • Abstract Existence (Type 1or 2): FSM's represents the light, and he it is part of Balance, as explained and agreed upon here, Balance is a concept, so the FSM must be an embodiment of light, and has authority over the concept of light since it is the one who created it.

It was discussed and it was bad.

• FSM:
  • Law Manipulation: Created Realm Crystal has the ability to open a portal to The Cursed Realm and other realms and can free imprisoned souls and the Preeminent, meaning it has broken the rule of the Cursed Realm (the rule that If you want to re-summon someone from the Cursed realm, the one who originally benished them has to take their place in the realm).

Also this

 

[GarrixianXD]

i agree

 

[REX9097]

i agree

Alright, this can be closed then. Ty for the input

 

[GarrixianXD]

Alright, this can be closed then. Ty for the input

This looks like a major upgrade, I suggest waiting for another thread mod or admin before applying.

 

[REX9097]

This looks like a major upgrade, I suggest waiting for another thread mod or admin before applying.

I don't really think Ninjago fit the popular series rule, and it says that to be approved, there must be a minimum of two staff members to sign off on any proposed changes, and that's enough, and we also have 3 approvals, do we need another approval?

In order to ensure that all revisions are thoroughly reviewed and approved, it is necessary for a minimum of two staff members to sign off on any proposed changes. The concluding evaluations must be handled by Thread Moderators, Administrators, and Bureaucrats, who should make an effort to base their evaluations on valid arguments, not personal opinions.

In cases where the series verse has a significant following or a large amount of material has been published based on its content, it may be necessary to seek approval from a minimum of three staff members to ensure that all relevant parties are aware of and agree with the proposed revisions.

 

[GarrixianXD]

I don't really think Ninjago fit the popular series rule, and it says that to be approved, there must be a minimum of two staff members to sign off on any proposed changes, and that's enough, and we also have 3 approvals, do we need another approval?

I'm not an admin or thread moderator, I'm a content moderator. I think I said it below your profile post, though, I'm clarifying it again.

 

[REX9097]

I'm not an admin or thread moderator, I'm a content moderator. I think I said it below your profile post, though, I'm clarifying it again.

Ok, but still We have two approvals. So this can be closed then

 

[Firestorm808]

Per the site page, Type 1 can be portrayed as the following:

A circular object is circular because it is "participating" in the concept of "circle-ness". In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept across all of their area of influence, while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

Changing/creating/destroying the definition or idea of a circle would apply for CM Type 1.

Can you elaborate how it applies to the Ninjago verse for the proposed idea of Balance?

 

[REX9097]

Per the site page, Type 1 can be portrayed as the following:

A circular object is circular because it is "participating" in the concept of "circle-ness". In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept across all of their area of influence, while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

Changing/creating/destroying the definition or idea of a circle would apply for CM Type 1.

Can you elaborate how it applies to the Ninjago verse for the proposed idea of Balance?

This has been talked about in another thread, but i'd like to try here with more evidence. Light and Dark in the verse act as a duality to eachother as The Overlord says, 'Where there is light, there will always be shadow', this is what is known as 'The Balance' in the show. The shifting of The Balance causes something, as Wu put it, fundamentally wrong to the universe. Clouse shifting The Balance to darkness poses a threat to the universe and even the multiverse itself, causing The Balance between the two to be destroyed. Wu describes The Balance as being the nature of the universe, that Light and Dark must constantly be in balance and that darkness can never be fully destroyed. In Conclusion, The Balance is a concept in which Light and Dark are always in balance and are fundamental to the universe and the overall multiverse, shifting The Balance could cause the total destruction of all the realms, The Overlord should get Conceptual Manipulation due to being able to permanently destroy The Balance and FSM

1. Independent Universal Concepts: Such concepts are completely independent from the part of reality they govern, except maybe of other concepts of this nature.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Per the site page, Type 1 can be portrayed as the following:

A circular object is circular because it is "participating" in the concept of "circle-ness". In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept across all of their area of influence, while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

Changing/creating/destroying the definition or idea of a circle would apply for CM Type 1.

Can you elaborate how it applies to the Ninjago verse for the proposed idea of Balance?

Overlord is the said to be the source of evil of all of Ninjago (as well as WOG litterally stating he is evil itself). He is capable of shifting the Balance which acts as a guiding force over the Realms between the light and dark, and is capable destroy it, which would also lead to Ninjago's oblideration along with the other Realms. The same source of evil litterally represents a part of the Balance too. So in short, Overlord would be able competly destroy the concept of Light/Good and Dark/Evil

 

[Firestorm808]

This has been talked about in another thread, but i'd like to try here with more evidence. Light and Dark in the verse act as a duality to eachother as The Overlord says, 'Where there is light, there will always be shadow', this is what is known as 'The Balance' in the show. The shifting of The Balance causes something, as Wu put it, fundamentally wrong to the universe. Clouse shifting The Balance to darkness poses a threat to the universe and even the multiverse itself, causing The Balance between the two to be destroyed. Wu describes The Balance as being the nature of the universe, that Light and Dark must constantly be in balance and that darkness can never be fully destroyed. In Conclusion, The Balance is a concept in which Light and Dark are always in balance and are fundamental to the universe and the overall multiverse, shifting The Balance could cause the total destruction of all the realms, The Overlord should get Conceptual Manipulation due to being able to permanently destroy The Balance and FSM

So, in what way was the idea/definition of Balance changed?

Did the concept/idea of Balance suddenly mean something else at some point?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

So, in what way was the idea/definition of balance changed?

Did the concept of balance suddenly mean something else at some point?

Not only Overlord can shift it to make the evil part of the concept take over the light one, but he can obliderate the whole concept as well

 

[Firestorm808]

Not only Overlord can shift it to make the evil part of the concept take over the light one, but he can obliderate the whole concept as well

The world(s) not being in balance doesn't really mean that the "meaning of balance" is changed or destroyed.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

The world(s) not being in balance doesn't really mean that the "meaning of balance" is changed or destroyed.

not necesserally what's happening. Overlord fully corrupts the other side of the balance ---> destroy the meaning of balance itself ---> the Multiverse gets destroyed