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Ninjago Abilities Update

Agree with everything except CM type 1. What does light and darkness define ?

If the imbalance between them influence the realms instead the realmd destruction influencing them, then there is CM.
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Agree with everything except CM type 1. What does light and darkness define ?

If the imbalance between them influence the realms instead the realmd destruction influencing them, then there is CM.
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Tommy stated that when the balance is shifted towards good too much, something bad will happen
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We also saw how Ninjago got corrupted after Overlord shifted the balance back in S2
 
Lloydblitzed said:
By crossing over Ninjago and corrupting the Realm
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Then it's a Domino effect
This, however, does not qualify for this form of conceptual manipulation, and is rather treated as a by-product of another action akin to a "domino effect". This type of conceptual manipulation can only be obtained if the abstract concept itself is changed directly, and not by indirect methods. For example, destroying humanity and thus "ending the concept of humanity" would not qualify, while directly "ending the concept of humanity" and thus destroying humanity would qualify.
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He is doing it indirectly by corrupting the realms.
 
Another support for Nonduality for Overlord is that he, being pure evil, can use Golden Power at it's finest. Like Darkness which can use Light on most powerful level.
 
Overlord_Darkness said:
This seems likely. CM Type 1 is too abstractal for Ninjago, but Type 2 fits nice. About nonduality.. For Overlord?
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Light=? and Darkness=Overlord
Type1: Specific Nonduality: Characters existing in a nondual state regarding one or more specific dual systems. This type of nonduality immunizes the user against attacks and haxes bound by the specific dual systems in question.
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EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Didn't he have weakness to golden energy ?
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I think it's not a weakness like "Light is the only thing that stops Darkness". It seems like Golden Power is just too powerful to stand against. If Overlord ever had Golden Power as his primary weakness then he shouldn't be able to use it like FSM or even greater. But he can use it in that way.
 
Overlord_Darkness said:
I think it's not a weakness like "Light is the only thing that stops Darkness". It seems like Golden Power is just too powerful to stand against. If Overlord ever had Golden Power as his primary weakness then he shouldn't be able to use it like FSM or even greater. But he can use it in that way.
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ye
 
Overlord_Darkness said:
The only weakness he has is plot armor on main cast.

Avatar Creation and possession. He can't directly affect existence.
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The avatar of darkness could use light but Darkness itself can't because it's the opposite, right?

Nonduality type 1 for light and darknes, and not their avatars, spinjitsu...
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
The avatar of darkness could use light but Darkness itself can't because it's the opposite, right?
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As show claims, Golden Master is Overlord's true immortal (some sort of incorporeal) body. So no, it's Darkness can use Light, but Light cannot use Darkness. As I can see, Darkness fits for Nonduality Type 1 (maybe even Type 2, because Light includes Time which is thread that holds reality together).
 
Overlord_Darkness said:
As show claims, Golden Master is Overlord's true immortal (some sort of incorporeal) body. So no, it's Darkness can use Light, but Light cannot use Darkness. As I can see, Darkness fits for Nonduality Type 1 (maybe even Type 2, because Light includes Time which is thread that holds reality together).
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Ok but Overlord ir golden master are just avatars and not True light and True darkness. That's why their avatar are dual(light and darkness).

Possible Beyond dimensional existence type 1 and Acausality type 1 for Light and Darkness ?
Type 1: Characters whose nature is defined by lacking spatiotemporal features without necessarily being superior to any of them. As a result they aren't limited to existing within spatiotemporal realms and are often unaffected by Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation or can at least defend against it by leaving spacetime at will. They are usually Acausal (Type 1) as a result of being outside of regular time.
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and possibly an upgrade to L1-C because they exist outside.

Overlord_Darkness said:
I think we need another CRT for this. Seems interesting.
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A CRT for Light and Darkness
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Possible Beyond dimensional existence type 1 and Acausality type 1 for Light and Darkness ?
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Overlord already has BDE Type 1.

EL_xWatcher1234x said:
Ok but Overlord ir golden master are just avatars and not True light and True darkness. That's why their avatar are dual(light and darkness).
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Overlord was stated to be Darkness and Evil itself (that's why he have Abstract Existence Type 1 on profile), so he is true darkness. About true light: Golden Power fits to be true light since this power includes almost all elements and essences in existence (Creation, Destruction, Time e.t.c.) and was stated to be true essence of the FSM.

EL_xWatcher1234x said:
A CRT for Light and Darkness ?
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A CRT for Nonduality Type 2 for Overlord and Type 1 for FSM (because Golden Power includes Creation and Destruction which is the first duality in reality).
 
Overlord_Darkness said:
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We need to revise it.


True Darkness->Overlord(Darkness, evil...)=Master of Spinjitsu(Spinjitsu, golden power...)<-True light

Master of Spinjitsu and The Overlord are individuals with a personality without the limitation of their Source. That's why the Overlord ould fuse with the golden power the same way everything in Ninjago could be influeced by golden power or corrupted by The Overlord darkness .
The only CM, Nondual , BDE are True Light and True Darkness . The Overlord seems more like AE 2
 
TheOrangeGuy09 said:
You do not get Low 1-C for existing outside.
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Type 1: Characters whose nature is defined by lacking spatiotemporal features without necessarily being superior to any of them. As a result they aren't limited to existing within spatiotemporal realms and are often unaffected by Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation or can at least defend against it by leaving spacetime at will. They are usually Acausal (Type 1) as a result of being outside of regular time.
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Light and Darkness are outside and creation(time, space...) is just a manifestation of them.
 
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
We need to revise it.


True Darkness->Overlord(Darkness, evil...)=Master of Spinjitsu(Spinjitsu, golden power...)<-True light

Master of Spinjitsu and The Overlord are individuals with a personality without the limitation of their Source. That's why the Overlord ould fuse with the golden power the same way everything in Ninjago could be influeced by golden power or corrupted by The Overlord darkness .
The only CM, Nondual , BDE are True Light and True Darkness . The Overlord seems more like AE 2
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What? He literally is the Source of all Evil, he sent it, how in hell this is AE Type 2.
EL_xWatcher1234x said:
It's like saying that he was always a prisonner since his existence.
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Not since his existence. "I WANT MY OWN BACK", referring to his Ancient form.
 
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