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(NEEDS VOTES) Me questioning how a monster lost to a Capy (Lauren (Slender: The Eight Pages) vs The Rake)

maybe i'm dumb and cannot see h3's irony or the lack of it
can you just add me as a voter for the rake?
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
It's simple as X=Y for Z reason(s). What part do you not understand about noninho's point?
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Because I don't know what he's trying to prove. What are the X, Y, Z and what do they have to do with each other?

About some of the things he said, Rake wasn't telling people to go face on pavement in their dreams (dream manipulation?), it did so directly in the real world. If it attacked them in their sleep, they would have mentioned that they had nightmares or something not waking up to see it standing at the foot of their bed. It's not attacking people directly despite being so close because it's supposedly not that strong. Its best physical feat right now is heavily wounding a child which even I can do (hence the 10-B rating). We know that it was in the room of the victims because almost everyone has mentioned waking up to see it watching them.
 
AThe1412 said:
Because I don't know what he's trying to prove. What are the X, Y, Z and what do they have to do with each other?

About some of the things he said, Rake wasn't telling people to go face on pavement in their dreams (dream manipulation?), it did so directly in the real world. If it attacked them in their sleep, they would have mentioned that they had nightmares or something not waking up to see it standing at the foot of their bed. It's not attacking people directly despite being so close because it's supposedly not that strong. It's best physical feat right now is heavily wounding a child which even I can do (hence the 10-B rating). We know that it was in the room of the victims because almost everyone has mentioned waking up to see it watching them.
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the victims saw some characteristics of him, not himself
what i agree to and made my crt for is that those tales told is that The Rake attacks in 2 ways:
-Sneaking up into the room and chasing down/activelly try to kill
-Sneak up to the victim's house and frightening them up until they leave or until they end themselves

simply because why would he always be on the room of the victims and only in one "excerpt", outta nowhere, try to kill? that's why i believe he's not always in the same room as his victims, explaining why his range actually is "several meters"
 
noninho said:
the victims saw some characteristics of him, not himself
what i agree to and made my crt for is that those tales told is that The Rake attacks in 2 ways:
-Sneaking up into the room and chasing down/activelly try to kill
-Sneak up to the victim's house and frightening them up until they leave or until they end themselves

simply because why would he always be on the room of the victims and only in one "excerpt", outta nowhere, try to kill? that's why i believe he's not always in the same room as his victims, explaining why his range actually is "several meters"
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Because the one person we know it killed directly is a kid and that it chose to not attack the parents despite being in the same room as them. They literally saw it run out of their room and into the children's room.
 
yeah, that time he was there and 2/3 of his victims were killed indirectly by his influence doesn't prove he's always in the rooms
 
noninho said:
maybe i'm dumb and cannot see h3's irony or the lack of it
can you just add me as a voter for the rake?
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Until you've made solid ground for the Rake.

I mean, Lauren prefers to run when it comes to hax like Slendy's since A: she's usually against superior enemies, B: she hasn't been with Slenderman for enough time to consider ending herself as an option.
 
AThe1412 said:
And what about the other times? All of them mentioned to have seen the Rake so it was there or are you saying they were hallucinating due to its abilities?
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yes! they mention sensing things, seeing shapes (like the shape of his body, or his eyes), hearing his voice
but the only case which i think Rake's actually in the same room as the person and not near it or near the house, is the last "excerpt", the one with the child

H3110l12345I20 said:
Until you've made solid ground for the Rake.

I mean, Lauren prefers to run when it comes to hax like Slendy's since A: she's usually against superior enemies, B: she hasn't been with Slenderman for enough time to consider ending herself as an option.
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if she runs, Rake wins.
Sometimes his hax is to scare the person to get away from wherever he'd like the person to not be and never get back
which is literally a wincon.
Also to know if he's superior or not, she'd have to deal with his haxes anyway. she may have survived Slenderman before, but the rake is a different creature and she's literally mentioned to still suffer with when she met Slender, making her like, weaker maybe? if not, a regular human (which Rake's been making victims off of for maybe longer than Slenderman) that suffers from maddening effects of other monster is, yeah. likely to get severely affected by Rake's fear haxes. if not to oof herself, to run away.

Weaknesses: Standard human weaknesses; despite her determination to find Kate, she still suffers the effects of Slenderman's maddening abilities.
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noninho said:
yes! they mention sensing things, seeing shapes (like the shape of his body, or his eyes), hearing his voice
but the only case which i think Rake's actually in the same room as the person and not near it or near the house, is the last "excerpt", the one with the child


if she runs, Rake wins.
Sometimes his hax is to scare the person to get away from wherever he'd like the person to not be and never get back
which is literally a wincon.
Also to know if he's superior or not, she'd have to deal with his haxes anyway. she may have survived Slenderman before, but the rake is a different creature and she's literally mentioned to still suffer with when she met Slender, making her like, weaker maybe? if not, a regular human (which Rake's been making victims off of for maybe longer than Slenderman) that suffers from maddening effects of other monster is, yeah. likely to get severely affected by Rake's fear haxes. if not to oof herself, to run away.
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Until athe1412 has a counter within a couple of days, your vote will count.
 
noninho said:
yes! they mention sensing things, seeing shapes (like the shape of his body, or his eyes), hearing his voice
but the only case which i think Rake's actually in the same room as the person and not near it or near the house, is the last "excerpt", the one with the child


if she runs, Rake wins.
Sometimes his hax is to scare the person to get away from wherever he'd like the person to not be and never get back
which is literally a wincon.
Also to know if he's superior or not, she'd have to deal with his haxes anyway. she may have survived Slenderman before, but the rake is a different creature and she's literally mentioned to still suffer with when she met Slender, making her like, weaker maybe? if not, a regular human (which Rake's been making victims off of for maybe longer than Slenderman) that suffers from maddening effects of other monster is, yeah. likely to get severely affected by Rake's fear haxes. if not to oof herself, to run away.
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Your vote will be counted. Athe1412 hasn't responded in awhile.
 
Vyfourthaccount said:
Time to work on rake stuff. Since the comic is technically official
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What comic? Never heard of it.
Also, if it's not made by the same guy I think it'd be cooler to have at least as a separate key

TogepiYoda said:
Range appears to have been updated since a few weeks ago, I can't seem to find your CRT so I'm not sure if it's the range you wanted.
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I'm the one who made this CRT (hope it doesn't bug out again) and recently it got its second vote, then I applied it
Yeah, Several Meters is the range I see as the correct one
 
noninho said:
What comic? Never heard of it.
Also, if it's not made by the same guy I think it'd be cooler to have at least as a separate key


I'm the one who made this CRT (hope it doesn't bug out again) and recently it got its second vote, then I applied it
Yeah, Several Meters is the range I see as the correct one
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A comic made by Vincent v cava. Bryan Somerville given him input so it's kinda official plus the comic is called "creepypasta the comic"

More information about the rake here: https://hickeyshouseofhorrors.blogspot.com/2017/01/dark-web-essential-guide-to-creepypasta.html?m=1

The people that did this interview also did one with sonic exe creator apparently so I think this interview can be used
 
I still think that it should be another key? Yes.
I'm interested af to read it? Hell yeah
Vyfourthaccount said:
A comic made by Vincent v cava. Bryan Somerville given him input so it's kinda official plus the comic is called "creepypasta the comic"

More information about the rake here: https://hickeyshouseofhorrors.blogspot.com/2017/01/dark-web-essential-guide-to-creepypasta.html?m=1

The people that did this interview also did one with sonic exe creator apparently so I think this interview can be used
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noninho said:
I still think that it should be another key? Yes.
I'm interested af to read it? Hell yeah
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There is already a profile for the comic on FC/OC wiki for some reason. I think he can be in the main one just fine and I think you should read it tbh. Plus I don't really think a separate key or profile is necessary. If Bryan Somerville given some input then I assume it's safe to assume that the abilities rake shows here comes from Bryan input
 
Vyfourthaccount said:
There is already a profile for the comic on FC/OC wiki for some reason. I think he can be in the main one just fine and I think you should read it tbh. Plus I don't really think a separate key or profile is necessary. If Bryan Somerville given some input then I assume it's safe to assume that the abilities rake shows here comes from Bryan input
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The main point to why some Slenderman profiles have been deleted is because they were fanfics.

Literal most gacha life works and even ones that stray a thin line are on the basis that they were not only not made directly by the copyrighted creator, but also using other copyrighted IP's work. I cite that case since Bryan didn't directly work on the comic (unless if he did ofc). How would the comic be Canon anyways if some of my gacha memes aren't allowed? Even Victor surge worked on Marble Hornets and The Arrival.
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
The main point to why some Slenderman profiles have been deleted is because they were fanfics.

Literal most gacha life works and even ones that stray a thin line are on the basis that they were not only not made directly by the copyrighted creator, but also using other copyrighted IP's work. I cite that case since Bryan didn't directly work on the comic (unless if he did ofc). How would the comic be Canon anyways if some of my gacha memes aren't allowed? Even Victor surge worked on Marble Hornets and The Arrival.
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I know that
 
Vyfourthaccount said:
He given input to Vincent. Pretty sure it would count?
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The reason why Red v. Blue and Slenderman's case counts is due to the official creators directly working and giving an official licensing on it.

I figured this out on my own by thinking for my self and staff input. Sure, we could put glitchtale, XTale, Undertale Yellow, etc because a creator technically allows it, and you could say that in the wiki's mission of fiction indexing, an FCOC wiki is somewhat impractical. However I'm pretty sure there's a bajillion reasons why there is an FCOC for maintenance reasons.

I'm just here to whoop some butts here before staff does to you (unlike last time for me if you wanna see the case of Red v. Blue here (along with other replies if you wanna see the thread)).
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
The reason why Red v. Blue and Slenderman's case counts is due to the official creators directly working and giving an official licensing on it.

I figured this out on my own by thinking for my self and staff input. Sure, we could put glitchtale, XTale, Undertale Yellow, etc because a creator technically allows it, and you could say that in the wiki's mission of fiction indexing, an FCOC wiki is somewhat impractical. However I'm pretty sure there's a bajillion reasons why there is an FCOC for maintenance reasons.

I'm just here to whoop some butts here before staff does to you (unlike last time for me if you wanna see the case of Red v. Blue here (along with other replies if you wanna see the thread)).
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Fair enough then
 
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