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Necrozma Downgrade

Well...:

We need to know how they did it, whether or not they did it by moving the moon, clouds, planetary rotation, or if it's just darkness manipulation hax (which it most likely is).

Then we would need to know the timeframe, which is not given.

Lastly, we would have to know the distance they cleared doing this. Which we don't know.
 
Just wait for the anime to get to the legendary plot lines im sure they'll have some feats by then.
 
When Reshiram's tail flares, the heat energy moves the atmosphere and changes the world's weather.

Seems like doing it on a planetary scale to me. The darkness feat doesn't mention any sense of scale, though.
 
Should we just put the legendaries at Unknown until the anime or manga gets to them? (Or until another game is made)
 
We went over this. If they were just "At least City level" then that, would by our rating system, imply that Brock and Misty would be far above them, which is just ludicrous to assume.
 
Red is also one of the more seasoned and skilled trainers. It just feels like a bad idea to rate trainers like Brock and Misty to be that much stronger than mascot legendaries.

I think Unknown is the best idea.

@Kukui. Guzzlord is probably just 6-B via virtue of scaling off of other Ultra Beast, who will also be downgraded.
 
Darkanine said:
@Kukui. Guzzlord is probably just 6-B via virtue of scaling off of other Ultra Beast, who will also be downgraded.
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Actually that isnt the only reason he's listed 6-B. He's also given that rating for eating entire sea's as linked on his page.
 
Cropfist said:
I suggest at least city level due to Guzzlord eating mountains.
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The idea that Solgaleo and Lunala are weaker than Tyranitar is absurd and even more so when the kings of Alola worshiped them...


I propose to leave your profile unknown. Although it is very possible that soon they receive High 6-A feats because of the great possibility that Necrozma fights against Zygarde...

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It makes no sense for a mascot legendary to be weaker than a Tyranitar. We also agreed to scale legendaries to Tyranitar at the very least. There is also the fact that Zygarde is in Alola as well. Personally, I don't see the ratings of these guys as a problem since they are indeed Mascot Legends(And we know that it isn't just a title.). If we will downgrade them, we can place them at "At least 7-A, possibly High 7-A".
 
Honestly, we went with Xcano's suggestion due to being a legendary. Not the perfect reasoning, but we knew these guys scaled in some way, shape or form to other mascot legends. Sad thing is that this situation is just like the Daishinkan from Dragon Ball Super. We know they are far stronger than their feats, we just have no concrete evidence......We just went with something for the time being...
 
One thing I've seen is that Zygarde's 100% form only appears if 50% can't deal with the current threat, and it's implied that Zygarde came to Alola because of the UBs. Haven't found any source on this, but it would be possible to note.
 
@Ever

While we are given extremely little to go off of with the UBs in most cases, one of their defining traits is that they are dangerous. Extremely dangerous. Not just to humans, but Pokemon as well. In fact, that's one of the reasons "Fallers" are used to lure them around, since if they wander into populated areas, they could wipe everything out.

On top of this, we are told by Interpol in the post game that the UBs "exceed the boundaries and logic of our world". Does this mean they're higher-dimensional or something? Obviously not. But it does mean they're in an entirely different league compared to regular Pokemon from the main world. We can also safely say this applies to all Pokemon and not just the ones in Alola because the people explaining this are a global organization familiar with pretty much all Pokemon out there.

There are other things as well, such as the fact that the immense power boost Totem Pokemon receive is from being exposed to a small portion of energy released when an Ultra Wormhole opens. UBs quite literally live immersed in this energy, every day.
 
So, At least 7-A, possibly far higher?

Hopefully they can end up scaling to Zygarde
 
@Dragon

Not according to this-

" Country level (Superior to most other Ultra Beasts, and was a big threat to the Tapu, ate entire seas)"

He's also 6-B for eating entire seas so even if the scaling to the UB's are wrong eating entire seas still makes him 6-B. And if he continues to stay 6-B then that will scale over to these 2.
 
JustSomeWeirdo said:
It's never given a timeframe, and we don't know the size of said sea
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Considering its plural it likely means seas as in general. Even the average seas are very big. And since its able to eat them and go on about on its own without taking, like, months or years to eat it we might get something from there but im not sure.

Besides, what would the size and timeframe have to do wtih it? Didnt Gyrados's feat of leveling cities (which neither timeframe nor size were given) get questioned and he still remained at 8-C?
 
It was calced at Low 5-B and rejected by the calc group, its only on the profile to hype Guzzlord up, it has no actual rating.

Gyrados didnt get downgraded because he has statements like "Razing mountains to the ground" which can be as high as 7-A so the 7-B tier was nice compromise for no timeframe.
 
I could destroy an entire city, but if you don't know the size of the city and how long it took, it could range from anywhere from wall level to Large City level, as there's no known timeframe or size of said city
 
I'd say we put them at At least 7-A, possibly far higher (Considered very dangerous to the world, should at the very least be stronger than Pokemon like Tyrantitar, is also from the Ultra Beast's world, which is full of Totem energy)
 
I feel like the implications of "totally annihilating a major world city" would qualify for 7-B.

Anyway. I'm fine with "Unknown. At least 7-A, likely far higher".
 
Maybe "most likely far higher" instead of just likely?

I know it's not an actual rating, but I'm only saying it because I've seen it before
 
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