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Naruto vs Deku

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Basically this but even more in favor of spinach boy

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Izuku Midoriya vs Naruto Uzumaki

Time to bite the bullet here. We had Tomura vs Sasuke, it's only natural to do Izuku vs Naruto. This is Birth of the Ten-Tails’ Jinchūriki Naruto vs Final War Arc Izuku Naruto starts with Kurama Mode and Izuku starts with One For All. Naruto's AP/Dura: 98.35 Teratons with Kurama Mode and 100...
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OneBleachHurricane said:
Basically this but even more in favor of spinach boy

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Izuku Midoriya vs Naruto Uzumaki

Time to bite the bullet here. We had Tomura vs Sasuke, it's only natural to do Izuku vs Naruto. This is Birth of the Ten-Tails’ Jinchūriki Naruto vs Final War Arc Izuku Naruto starts with Kurama Mode and Izuku starts with One For All. Naruto's AP/Dura: 98.35 Teratons with Kurama Mode and 100...
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So it was already done. Got it.
 
Izuku Stats: 430 Teratons of TNT with 45%, 706.3 Teratons with 100%, up to 3531.5 Teratons with Fa Jin. Class P Lifting Strength as well.

Naruto Stats: 100 Teratons of TNT with Kurama Sage Mode, 200 Teratons with Rasengan Variants. Class G Lifting Strength as well.

45% Izuku is 4.3x stronger normally, and is 2.15x stronger than his Rasengans.

The biggest difference from there last fight is that Izuku won't have the speed amps of Gearshift in this fight.

But I'm confident in saying Izuku would win this. He can still increase his speed to blitzing level with Fa Jin and is noticeably stronger than Naruto.

He can stop any of Naruto's attacks with his air pressure and can inflict serious damage with each strike. A Fa Jin level amp should blitz and one shot Naruto in fact.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Genjutsu stomp?

Sasuke can just look at him and end the fight, Izuku has no resistance or counter for that.
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Ain't his first strategy so Deku would still be able to do something before that (also ain't like 1294882 people alive inside of OFA who, iirc the genjutsu mechanic, would he able to end it?)
 
noninho said:
Ain't his first strategy so Deku would still be able to do something before that (also ain't like 1294882 people alive inside of OFA who, iirc the genjutsu mechanic, would he able to end it?)
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There's only 8 of them... well 7.5 since All Might's vestige mostly just glows and look cool.

They can't do anything to Genjutsu nor can they do anything. They cannot interact with the world at all, how could they even help?

I know Killer B can break out thanks to the Eight Tails disrupting his Chakra flow for him. The Vestiges cannot do anything like that.
 
TheRustyOne said:
They cannot interact with the world at all, how could they even help?
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They can (and do) interact with deku which could be something SBA counted as disturbing Chakra flow (one of the main ways of getting outta genjutsu)
Or something less complicated like "wake up little man, we have an emo who looks like that food-guy to defeat!!!"
Idk, if they ca bestow powers for sure they can do something like "disturbing the flow of inner magic flow of energy" (just thought of it: wouldn't give a power count as that, like Fajin or smth?)
 
noninho said:
They can (and do) interact with deku which could be something SBA counted as disturbing Chakra flow (one of the main ways of getting outta genjutsu)
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Is talking all it takes for someone to break out the Genjutsu of the Sharingan?

Because that's all they can do to Izuku.

Note: Best for me to stop talking about this as it's derailing the thread.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Is talking all it takes for someone to break out the Genjutsu of the Sharingan?

Because that's all they can do to Izuku.

Note: Best for me to stop talking about this as it's derailing the thread.
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Afaik? Yeah;
Was about to say the same.
Maybe later imma jump to Naruto GD to talk about this idea
 
noninho said:
Afaik? Yeah;
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The second method requires the other person to give you Chakra to disrupt the flow it isn't just talking
 
Yeah this one's a BTA

Deku can have anywhere from a 4x to a 35x AP gap to this Nard's durability, Low-Mid regen isn't saving him here.

Also, it doesn't help that this Nard doesn't really have any useful Hax Wincons, besides ig Corrosive Chakra via Kurama but ehhhhhhh.
 
theyre like 53 Petatons so it would just be the reverse issue 💀

edit: didn't realize Deku had a 40 Petaton key now, W

that actually could work
 
noninho said:
If you're able to amplify yourself after the equalization and the opponent still has a wincon, it's fine.
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What if the Speed Amp is Blitz worthy?

IIRC a major part of Deku winning the previous match was due to his Speed and AP Amp

With Naruto's main defense against that being his regeneration, analytical prediction, and ESP provided by his KSM Form, with his Avatar acting as a buffer zone.
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
IIRC the major part of Deku winning the previous match was due to his Speed and AP Amp
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Basically yes. This match might end up being far more in Deku's favor because restricting Nard's 5-C and above shit basically turns him into OG Naruto, a shadow clone and rasengan merchant.

Only diff is that he's more skilled and smarter than that Naruto (stronger too but duh, we know that).
 
Our rules here.

"Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles."

Izuku horribly blitzes Naruto. Gearshift's speed is far beyond Fa Jin + Blackwhip, which was already a major blitz.

Fa Jin + Blackwhip enhanced Izuku's speed to the point of blitzing someone on par with him while he was almost 100 meters away.

Using Fa Jin Izuku instantly caught up to a bullet that was faster than him normally while he was over hundreds of meters away.

Gearshift is Second Gear alone is faster than this, and Izuku can increase his speed with Third Gear and Top Gear for even more speed. And then stack Fa Jin on top of it as well.

IDK if even this is alright. Nothing stops Izuku from just instantly blitzing Naruto with his several blitz worthy speed amps.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Our rules here.

"Any speed equalized match, in which a major reason a character loses is due to having a disadvantage against some speed value they usually wouldn't have a disadvantage against, may not be added to profiles."

Izuku horribly blitzes Naruto. Gearshift's speed is far beyond Fa Jin + Blackwhip, which was already a major blitz.

Fa Jin + Blackwhip enhanced Izuku's speed to the point of blitzing someone on par with him while he was almost 100 meters away.

Using Fa Jin Izuku instantly caught up to a bullet that was faster than him normally while he was over hundreds of meters away.

Gearshift is Second Gear alone is faster than this, and Izuku can increase his speed with Third Gear and Top Gear for even more speed. And then stack Fa Jin on top of it as well.

IDK if even this is alright. Nothing stops Izuku from just instantly blitzing Naruto with his several blitz worthy speed amps.
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The last match worked because Naruto had his fair share of versatility and counters to the blitzes, but here it's locked behind tier 5 and at that point he finger flicks him.

This match doesn't work at all because Deku is not only stronger than Naruto with Fa Jin, but the counters to Gearshift are straight up not there like the other match.
 
how long does Gearshift/Fa Jin last? cause Nard can maybe last with trickery like clones, substitution, Shunshin (which is his own blitz lvl amp, tho i don't doubt Fa Jin and Gearshift are probably better), and Sage Mode which isn't actually a higher tier on its own for this key
 
Godernet said:
how long does Gearshift/Fa Jin last? cause Nard can maybe last with trickery like clones, substitution, Shunshin (which is his own blitz lvl amp, tho i don't doubt Fa Jin and Gearshift are probably better), and Sage Mode which isn't actually a higher tier on its own for this key
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Fa Jin is a momentary boost that Izuku needs to be build up by storing Kinetic Energy, although with Gearshift he can charge it instantly.

Izuku was told to only hold Gearshift for 5 minutes but held on afterward for over 20 minutes.

Even 5 minutes is way too much time due to how absurd Gearshift's speed is. In 1 minute Izuku can throw out several thousands attacks. People on par with Izuku can't even tell what he does in Gearshift. Tomura, who's speed is comparable to him, didn't even realize Izuku had moved until he'd been punched three times and sent flying.

Along with Izuku's absurd AOE being Thousands of Kilometers? Kind of hard to avoid.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Fa Jin is a momentary boost that Izuku needs to be build up by storing Kinetic Energy, although with Gearshift he can charge it instantly.

Izuku was told to only hold Gearshift for 5 minutes but held on afterward for over 20 minutes.

Even 5 minutes is way too much time due to how absurd Gearshift's speed is. In 1 minute Izuku can throw out several thousands attacks. People on par with Izuku can't even tell what he does in Gearshift. Tomura, who's speed is comparable to him, didn't even realize Izuku had moved until he'd been punched three times and sent flying.

Along with Izuku's absurd AOE being Thousands of Kilometers? Kind of hard to avoid.
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Gotcha

though dishing out/dodging thousands of attacks in a minute shouldn't be too much of an issue for two characters in the SOL/FTL ranges.

Since they're equalized here, Fa Jin would be more like a blitz-level amp, which Naruto could more or less match with Shunshin and Sage Mode (if he gets the chance to enter it)

Naruto is pretty good at stalling out a fight with misdirection so while it would be hard I don't think it's impossible for him to avoid most of it
Nierre said:
Naruto has to set up clones for Sage Mode, which Deku would have 0 issue just air blasting them
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The Last Nard can just flicker into Sage Mode, from what we saw in the Toneri fight.

also Kurama can gather Nature Energy for him while he's mid fight.

edit: actually wait, while Kurama can't participate in the fight since he's Tier 5, can he still build nature energy for Nard to use Sage Mode?
 
The speed amp between Fa Jin and Sage mode+shunshin shouldn’t be that wide as they are both blitz worthy. Not to add, Naruto can go into it almost casually.
Naruto starts at 53 petatons while Deku at 42, not that significant but enough for Naruto to pressure him with clones and figure out his less guarded side before barraging him with rasengan or FRS
 
Tbh this match feels really forced. Restricting naruto to only just one form where he looses 90% of his kit just for this match to work. Also that form in itself is likely likely 5c so you're further restricting that part of the form. Deku wincon also relies on blitzing with him being the slower character makes no sense
 
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