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Naruto Uzumaki vs Shockwave

Well, if you're not comfortable with the transformers reasonings, just go make a CRT

Until then, this match is still valid.
 
Misogi2 said:
Well, if you're not comfortable with the transformers reasonings, just go make a CRT

Until then, this match is still valid.
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Yes. This is getting way off-topic anyways.
 
Misogi2 said:
Well, if you're not comfortable with the transformers reasonings, just go make a CRT

Until then, this match is still valid.
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It literally won't get added if staff are alerted of the circular reasoning which means it's not valid
 
Ant knows about the reasonings(like caleb said)

Heck, even the Ant himself has edited these transformers pages to look like that
 
AstralKing7 said:
Lol no we don't accept circular reasoning on this site
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What does circular reasoning means? If it is that alot of characters scale from the same feat, all pokemons that are not Legendary or mistics scale from the same feat
 
IIRC, Shockwave don't really lead with Hax (i have never read Robots in Disguise, so don't quote me on this), but rather his cannon. If he do lead with his cannon against naruto (And considering that Naruto is an Organic life form, i think it would be IC to most Decepticons to just blast them away), Naruto would just come unscratched by that and them, obliterate Shockwave with a Rasenshuriken, Rasengan or even a punch due to the tiers differences. For now, i am going with Naruto
 
What does circular reasoning means? If it is that alot of characters scale from the same feat, all pokemons that are not Legendary or mistics scale from the same feat


Lol no. It's when a character is basically scaling to himself ƒÿæ
 
I mean, Dai Atlas, OP, Scorponok and Grimlock survived from the Toraxxis Mega-Refinery explosion. Megatron scales to OP, UM have fighted against Scorponok and OP, so he scales to that. Arcee have fighted against UM, so she scales to that, Star Saber have bested and killed Dai Atlas, so he scales to that, Nova Prime scales to OP via fighting inumerous times with him, Galvatron scales to that via batling with OP, Tarn scales to that via fighting with Grimlock some times, same with Shockwave. Overlord scales to that via defeating UM, Sixshot scales to that via battling with OP and Black Shadow scales to that via defeating OP and UM, the only thing here from what i can tell is that Black Shadow feats are all speaked, and not showed. Most characters here normally scale to that 4 characters that survived the explosion, only Overlord and Arcee scale different, both to UM

I think that this scaling chain have no real Circular Reasoning, we not imply that Overlord is 6-A because he is stronger then OP, because Phase-Sixers are stronger than OP, we are only using a scaling chain to see if they scale to that feat
 
Normally, we putted that he should scale to his durability, but ant changed to "Can harm those who can harm him", so we putted that to the others profiles
 
Drite77 said:
IIRC, Shockwave don't really lead with Hax (i have never read Robots in Disguise, so don't quote me on this), but rather his cannon. If he do lead with his cannon against naruto (And considering that Naruto is an Organic life form, i think it would be IC to most Decepticons to just blast them away), Naruto would just come unscratched by that and them, obliterate Shockwave with a Rasenshuriken, Rasengan or even a punch due to the tiers differences. For now, i am going with Naruto
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Yes, and then I'd imagine Shockwave heals and then realizes his cannon is utterly useless. Once that happens, he'll use his hax
 
The AP difference would make any attack of Naruto obliterate Shockwave, do you know how strong is his resurrection?
 
Drite77 said:
The AP difference would make any attack of Naruto obliterate Shockwave, do you know how strong is his resurrection?
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Ore-14 was described as powerful enough to resurrect entire cities.
 
We need to see how that works in transformers, and if Shockwave can revive himself even if he dies
 
Shockwave hax won't save him from being atomized by a punch from Naruto, since, in character, decepticons just obliterate organic life forms that go against them, and Ore-14 will not be enough to ressurect him from that
 
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