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Naruto to Boruto Thread 54
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Well it's only here in this site. Out of this site you get Universal Naruto God tiers lol via all round scaling and taking on all statements
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Idk what to say to people who think Hag is the strongest
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He might not be the strongest (tho I think he is) but he can beat anyone in the verse especially in his ghost form and prime which were extreme hax monsters
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Hagoromo defeated Prime Kaguya together with his brother. Then he got Prime Juubi implanted into him, so he should be the strongest. Also Kaguya giving birth and getting much weaker is not true. If that was a thing then every time a female shinobi gives birth it would make them weaker in the future which is bullshit.
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"Defeated" stop this. They didn't defeat Kaguya. They sealed her.
Also yeah your arguments have been debunked so many times. It was literally stated Kaguya got weaker.
Also yeah your arguments have been debunked so many times. It was literally stated Kaguya got weaker.
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Kaguya created her own space time, not just one but five of them, and it was stated that she was going to destroy her biggest one and recreate it if Team 7 didn't stop her. This time space stated to be vast by Obito who has his own time space along with having knowledge of the main universe and etc. so she would be Universal + for creating a 4D construct that is possibly universal in size, and Sakura is able to damage her by punching her in the head. Naruto kicked Kaguya through a mountain with boil release, and was capable of momentarily matching Kaguya's Gentle Fist with his own chakra arms. So Team 7 by this logic should be Universal +.
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Yeah and no, that would be wank. At least that logic doesn't apply in this site
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Btw ghost hogoromo's half powers were enough for naruto and sasuke to fight Comparably with madara and later on with kaguya so common sense that in his prime juubi jin state in real body with all his other powers and all should make him far stronger than Juubidara. Not to mention an ****** old aged hogoromo slapped an meteorite to another constellation at FTL speeds lol
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I really need someone to look at the raw of the Hagoromo Madara statement 100% certain it says "attempting to reach me" and not a verbatim "he is getting close to me" wouldn't make sense for the latter
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Prime Kaguya created multiple worlds and a Star so she should be 5-B likely higher. Hagoromo and Hamura fought her for an extended amount of time and eventually sealed her and created Moon so they should be 5-B and having done moon feat probably when they were tired just like Naruto and Sasuke who used a lot of chakra during their battle with Madara then Kaguya. Naruto and Sasuke are half of 5-B Hagoromo and created their own moon, and managed to hold their own against Revived Kaguya for a short while especially Naruto. So they both should indivually be Low 5-B. All of this can be done without calcs and just accurate scaling.
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469192356017602609/699437277620994088/madaras.PNGNotCensored said:
If you go to viz translation. Hagoromo said madara is getting close to him and that he is aslo trying to attain Kaguyas power.
so while madara was getting close to hagoromo he then was also trying to reach kaguyas power and not Hagoromos own power.
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what if the disease hagoromo got was the ancestor of the disease itachi got
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VIZ mistranslate statements all the time they aren't infallable infamous ones being the Madara Universal statement and constantly calling Shushin TeleportationLop222 said:
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What if Jigen Isshiki Ootutsuki is the real father of Hagoromo and Hamura. We know that in anime Kaguya got prego by a human priest but if that was retconned and Isshiki was actually the father of Hagoromo and Hamura. Maybe Isshiki left earth for Kaguya to rule and looked for more planets to prepare for a harvest but ended up dying by the original Jigen. Eventually Isshiki takes over Jigen body via karma then Plants a giant tree that sucks up all the chakra in original Jigen world. After that Jigen goes back to earth to find Naruto and Sasuke sealed Kaguya again. So he plans to use his own 10 tails from the world he destroyed via chakra tree to become a new 10 tails jinchuriki but needs a more perfect body like Kawaki's.
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Hagoromo and Hamura fought her juubi form whch is weakest form of kaguya
rabbit form> kaguya in human form >god tree (true from of juubi)> juubi in beast form aka the ten tails(Hagoromo and Hamura fought only mindless ten tails)
and Hagoromo even with juubi is still weaker than prime kaguya sinse
prime kaguya(jubi+Hagoromo and Hamura chakra )
rabbit form> kaguya in human form >god tree (true from of juubi)> juubi in beast form aka the ten tails(Hagoromo and Hamura fought only mindless ten tails)
and Hagoromo even with juubi is still weaker than prime kaguya sinse
prime kaguya(jubi+Hagoromo and Hamura chakra )
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The juubi hogoromo and hamura fought was Prime Kaguya merging with the God tree, that's in terms of Raw power is the strongest form of kaguya just that she's mindless which is why she can't use all those powers efficiently.
Rabbit form is an imperfect form as said by Jetsu which just came out because of the reaction of the Naruto's 9 tailed beasts attack.
Prime Kaguya definitely had shared her chakra with Hogoromo and hamura, but that was when they were infants I. E very little chakra, which they later trained on and became stronger, does not refer to Kaguya own chakra.
Rabbit form is an imperfect form as said by Jetsu which just came out because of the reaction of the Naruto's 9 tailed beasts attack.
Prime Kaguya definitely had shared her chakra with Hogoromo and hamura, but that was when they were infants I. E very little chakra, which they later trained on and became stronger, does not refer to Kaguya own chakra.
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was that accepted?
also I read the novel. and it also said hagoromo coulndt cure his illness with his own powers. this novel tells me this haxxed illness>>> creation of all things
Yeah i would definitely say that,the disease was transcendent level or something else
also I read the novel. and it also said hagoromo coulndt cure his illness with his own powers. this novel tells me this haxxed illness>>> creation of all things
Yeah i would definitely say that,the disease was transcendent level or something else
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naruto also has this illness
as for bold he cant use his power
if i am not wrong than who ever has this illness cant use power or chakra so
Yeah this has been said to be a chakra illness,which means they can't use chakra for it. If it had been an normal illness/bodily illness hags could have cured it
as for bold he cant use his power
if i am not wrong than who ever has this illness cant use power or chakra so
Yeah this has been said to be a chakra illness,which means they can't use chakra for it. If it had been an normal illness/bodily illness hags could have cured it
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I dont think so. Hagoromo fought the tentails and he said kaguya>>tentails:Battler356ushiromiya said:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...Hagoromo_says_Kaguya_is_stronger_than_him.PNG
even naruto said kaguyas chakra is stronger than tentails:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469192356017602609/699460120647696384/chakdgdg.PNG
so kaguyas tentails form is weaker than her normal form
tentails also cant use infinite tsukuyomi, while kaguya can with her rinne sharingan.
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Wait what? That ten tails is formed by mergence of Prime Kaguya and shinju, it's definitely far stronger than any other Kaguya. That time she was mindless which is why she couldn't use those powers
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The ten tails was created by the trees will to get back the chakra that was taken from it aka kaguya eating the fruit
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it has more raw power but because it can't control or use its power properly its overall weakerBattler356ushiromiya said:
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sure juubi = Kaguya merging with the God tree
manga clearly state/showed that kaguya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mindleass juubi
it also stat that juubi true/strongest form is god tree
and also look how strong jubito or juubi madara compare too juubi
Thats because the jins can use the power of ten tails effectively and efficiently than ten tails who is a mindless beast. In kaguya case she totally turned into juubi along with the god tree(which you said is the strongest form) so the strongest form×Prime kaguya's power = far higher raw power than any previous forms tho it can't use its powers properly.
Also i don't think prime kaguya just directly merged with the god tree for fighting her sons,probably before becoming ten tails,she got overpowered by her sons and then as a final resort she merged with the god tree and became ten tails. Tho this is just my theory as that entire battle was off screened and was only told that the battle lasted for months so.........
manga clearly state/showed that kaguya >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mindleass juubi
it also stat that juubi true/strongest form is god tree
and also look how strong jubito or juubi madara compare too juubi
Thats because the jins can use the power of ten tails effectively and efficiently than ten tails who is a mindless beast. In kaguya case she totally turned into juubi along with the god tree(which you said is the strongest form) so the strongest form×Prime kaguya's power = far higher raw power than any previous forms tho it can't use its powers properly.
Also i don't think prime kaguya just directly merged with the god tree for fighting her sons,probably before becoming ten tails,she got overpowered by her sons and then as a final resort she merged with the god tree and became ten tails. Tho this is just my theory as that entire battle was off screened and was only told that the battle lasted for months so.........
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it has more raw power but because it can't control or use its power properly its overall weaker
not more raw power than Etsb
Who knows,might be or might not be
not more raw power than Etsb
Who knows,might be or might not be
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Yeah it showed that Kaguya is much stronger than the incomplete Juubi that Naruto fought, not the prime Juubi that is a big chunk of Kaguyas power. When Hagoromo who in base is stronger than Juudara got the prime Ten Tails implanted inside him, he became the strongest character in the series.Omimi said:
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Hey so if Prime Juubi/God shinju tree had been said to have immeasurable/infinite chakra so where would he be at?
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All this point out how strong the universal god/Shinju tree might be
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And did you forget that Kaguya had incomplete Ten Tails as well right? and yet her chakra was still stated stronger than Tentails. Kaguyas chakra does not equal tentails chakra, even Hagoromo dindt know that Tentails was kaguya :Metalija said:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469192356017602609/699628874698588170/hagoromosfs.PNG
so the moment hagoromo absorbed tentails chakra he got inferior chakta than kaguya. it also prime example when madara absorbed tentails and rinnesharingan and was still weaker than kaguya,
but in any case I already said all god tiers should scale to each other.
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It was Kaguya with incomplete ten tails chakra >> only incomplete ten tails chakra. Base Hogoromo was comparable to Prime Kaguya and then on top with juubi chakra he's far stronger than her. Madara's base isn't even near to kaguya's base that's why even with ten tails and dinner sharingan, he's still weaker than Kaguya
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Pretty sure the Kaguya that Naruto and Co fought is pretty much at full power or even stronger (post giving birth at least) since she basically has the entire 10 Tails but she also absorbed Madara as well whos already stronger than the full 9 Tails on its own
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And i re-read the Kaguya and Madara fights its presented very weird did Hagoromo and Hamura even fight Kaguya at all? Hags pretty much stated that they only fought the 10 Tails and Zetsu stated they didn't even know the Ten Tails was Kaguya but then Hagoromo wasn't the least bit surprised when she came out of Madara, so did he just suspect that Kaguya, The God Tree and The Ten Tails were all more connected than they appeared to be or did he know from first hand experience?
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