Naruto to Boruto Thread 54

[AnimesFreak2]

Exactly

Hell we had Planetary Statements from Non God Tier Characters even BEFORE the War ARc

And it can easily be proven true and consistent

 

[Darsh748]

Well if we go by lore then Issike is more like Issun and would be Kaguya's lover, in the lore he's a 1 inch man who wishes to marry the princess but he has to become larger for that process so he needs the box that grants his wishes but the Box was with a monster so issun made himself into an even smaller thing, went inside it and killed the monster and then gained access to the box and got his wish granted and grew larger to the size of a normal human and married the princess.

Well from this lore one can find the similarities like issike turning small and has been talking to amado about getting everyone's wishes fullfilled once the plan works out, and the monster here is probably the juvenile Juubi. So Prime Issike might have wish granting and reality warping abilities I guess. Definitely there's more to it. You guys can guess as well

He could be the real father of Hagoromo and Hamura, since Tenji is not a canon, this even explains why the Hagoromo can use banzutsu sozo in jutsu, it would probably be something inherited from his father's power.

 

[Lop222]

Momoshiki's Dimensions have Moons, Planets, Stars, Nebulas,

oh god that isnt momoshikis dimension people has misconception about momoshikis dimension. the novel based on that dimension cleary says its and unknown world, momoshiki just found the dimension and claimed his.




also naruto and sasuke fought momoshiki in a different dimension\;

 

[Lop222]

What nursery does not mean god tree lol. Kaguya states that she doesn't want her nursery to sustain damage.

how can nursery not mean god tree when momoshiki himself reveals that he is refering to the god tree??

 

[Omimi]

So a jump from 5-C to 4-B or 4-A isn't an outlier? I mean that's not even up to discussion, we all know that's an outlier

NOPE since wiki has characters that jump from tier 7 to tier 3/2/1

 

[NotCensored]

Theres literally been bigger power jumps in fiction before as well Samurai 8 anyone Hachimaru going from 5-C/ 5-B to 3A lol

Even then idk why this Momoshiki stuff picked up again it just started with me having a debate on another site and snowballed from there guess its just always going to be a hot topic/ point of contention

 

[fandom_100th_Hokage]

So a jump from 5-C to 4-B or 4-A isn't an outlier? I mean that's not even up to discussion, we all know that's an outlier

It went from 4-c to 4-b to 4-a

 

[fandom_100th_Hokage]

how can nursery not mean god tree when momoshiki himself reveals that he is refering to the god tree??



A place Where they are grown lol

Also he created a Tree from his chakra and is also used to fuel his planet/dimension

 

[fandom_100th_Hokage]

This place this land I my precious nursery

Sure looks like a tree is a place and land

 

[Lop222]

A place Where they are grown lol

A god tree isnt an ordinary tree.

its a tree that can suck planets energy and turn into tentails and lot other things

 

[fandom_100th_Hokage]

But it's not a place or land. The planet or dimension is the trees nursery. Where it grows. Like a kid going to a nursery.

 

[Battler356ushiromiya]

I believe only prime kaguya built her own dimensions through etsb. Also otutsuki king would have powers to create dimensions. Momo and issike didn't create their own dimensions,they just simply claim some,there's no evidence of how they created it or anything such

 

[Omimi]

Despite the fact that we KNOW Chakra scales to Stats

As it Half Spiritual and Half Physical

And this wiki knows this as they literally heve Statistics Amplification on almost all Naruto Characters Profiles

They just choose to ignore this when it is convinient

i just remeber that Spiritual energy and Physical energy =chakra and also known as stamina lol

 

[JayXLotus]

Stamina and chakra are different in Naruto. They make clear distinctions between them as kakashi explains you can be out out of chakra but not out of stamina and the other way around.

 

[Kingomanoki]

Momoshiki doesn't claim the dimension, he created the dimension. The shot of boruto novel 3 where it states somewhere, on an unknown world, would just be somewhere in naruto's dimension, it'd be different if it said something along the lines of unknown dimension. We see this animated as well in the boruto anime with the dying red star, and dead planet littered with god trees. However, the dimension momoshiki traps naruto in, is different than that unknown world.

 

[Chasekilleen]

Ignore Naruto wankers, they think that Kaguya is multiversal

 

[JayXLotus]

Multiversal? Imo the range is from Large star- solar system- low multi

 

[Chasekilleen]

Multiversal? Imo the range is from Large star- solar system- low multi

 

[Chasekilleen]

That guy is @animesfreak02 on here^^

 

[JayXLotus]

When did Naruto "crack space"?

 

[Battler356ushiromiya]

That guy is @animesfreak02 on here^^

Lol so literally you came here just for this cmon bro

 

[Battler356ushiromiya]

Momoshiki doesn't claim the dimension, he created the dimension. The shot of boruto novel 3 where it states somewhere, on an unknown world, would just be somewhere in naruto's dimension, it'd be different if it said something along the lines of unknown dimension. We see this animated as well in the boruto anime with the dying red star, and dead planet littered with god trees. However, the dimension momoshiki traps naruto in, is different than that unknown world.

Which dimension Momoshike created then???

 

[Battler356ushiromiya]

Also you people don't bring in that Comicvine shit here. Thats an total Messpool

 

[Battler356ushiromiya]

Top 10 strongest Naruto/Boruto Characters -

1. Prime Kaguya otutsuki

2. Prime Hogoromo

3. Issike Otutsuki

4. Adult Naruto

5. Fused Momoshike

6. Prime Hamura/Adult Sasuke

7. 3 eyed Juubidara

8. 8Th gate Might guy

9. Tenseigan Toneri

10. Juubito.

 

[Chasekilleen]

Top 10 strongest Naruto/Boruto Characters -
1. Prime Kaguya otutsuki

2. Prime Hogoromo

3. Issike Otutsuki

4. Adult Naruto

5. Fused Momoshike

6. Prime Hamura/Adult Sasuke

7. 3 eyed Juubidara

8. 8Th gate Might guy

9. Tenseigan Toneri

10. Juubito.

kaguyafodder

 

[Lop222]

Which dimension Momoshike created then???

 

[Battler356ushiromiya]

And how big is it? Planet sized I guess

 

[Omimi]

in anime Momoshiki's dimension has multiple stars

novel Momoshiki's dimension contain at-least 1 sun and 1 planet

and in manga size is unknown

 

[NotCensored]

When did Naruto "crack space"?

Here

This is implied to be the spacial curvature as in how Otsutsuki measure planets in terms of Chakra in Naruto which means Naruto is the main reason for the cracking as he's the massive chakra Momoshiki and Kinshiki were seeking its pretty unquantifiable tbh

 

[Battler356ushiromiya]

in anime Momoshiki's dimension has multiple stars

novel Momoshiki's dimension contain at-least 1 sun and 1 planet

and in manga size is unknown

Can you show me

 

[Lop222]

Here

This is implied to be the spacial curvature as in how Otsutsuki measure planets in terms of Chakra in Naruto which means Naruto is the main reason for the cracking as he's the massive chakra Momoshiki and Kinshiki were seeking its pretty unquantifiable tbh

And that massive chakra is ninetails which was stated by Momoshiki:



and we know ninetails chakra is just small portion chakra of tentails, which stated by Toneri (the guy who checks space cracks) having immeasurable chakra/power and which is the reason why Hagoromo split the tentails in 9 beasts.





So you can argue when Tentails appeared the space was already cracking we dont know we never saw it and that ninetails continued the proces

 

[Battler356ushiromiya]

So dimension level+ ten tails because it's far stronger than Momoshike lmao

 

[Battler356ushiromiya]

Or maybe kurama and Naruto's chakra grew exponentially more than Ten tails!?

 

[Lop222]

Or maybe kurama and Naruto's chakra grew exponentially more than Ten tails!?

Tentails chakra far exceed all taileds beast chakra and combined are no match for it stated in databooks.




hagoromo split the tentails around 1000 years ago and still 1000 years later ninetails was nothing compared to tentails so it doesnt make sense for ninetails surpass the tentails in just 10 years later

 

[Battler356ushiromiya]

Why knows maybe his chakra also grew along with Naruto's when Naruto was training after the war arc

 

[fandom_100th_Hokage]

Obviously I'm not claiming what it's saying but that's the translation I found. sekai Is used so you can just replace universe with world. I think universe is used because of the power of all existence hyperbole.

 

[NotCensored]

And that massive chakra is ninetails which was stated by Momoshiki:

He's absorbing Naruto and Kurama's chakra not just Kurama

and we know ninetails chakra is just small portion chakra of tentails which stated by Toneri (the guy who checks space cracks) having immeasurable chakra/power and which is the reason why Hagoromo split the tentails in 9 beasts.

Naruto scales above the Ten Tails in power now as he was superior to 1 Eyed Juubidara who was already stronger than the Juubi in the War Arc again theres a lot of ways you can interpret this

So you can argue when Tentails appeared the space was already cracking we dont know we never saw it and that ninetails continued the proces

Occams Razor bro your making a lot of assumptions the curvature would have went down again after the Ten Tails was split again so that probably isn't the case its heavily implied to just be Naruto

 

[Lop222]

He's absorbing Naruto and Kurama's chakra not just Kurama

Naruto scales above the Ten Tails in power now as he was superior to 1 Eyed Juubidara who was already stronger than the Juubi

heavily implied to just be Naruto

1 proof it in anime we see red chakra and thats ninetails chakra and momo himself was interested in ninetails chakra to revive god tree and not narutos.

2. Madara had incomplete tentails not prime Tentails.

3, heavily implied to just be Naruto

okay boy implied doesnt confirm its 100% narutos, its your making assumptions that is just narutos.

 

[Omimi]

And that massive chakra is ninetails which was stated by Momoshiki:

naruto also has other buju chakra in him +50% haogoromo's chakra as well

 

[NotCensored]

1 proof it in anime we see red chakra and thats ninetails chakra

Just because he's in the process of absorbing Kurama doesn't mean he was only referring to its chakra with that statement Naruto literally has a decent amount of the other tailed beasts Chakra, 50% of Hagoromo's Six Paths Chakra, His own enormous chakra and possibly even a sliver of Hamura's Chakra that he gained from Hinata in The Last theres much more to imply that he was referring to all this combined rather the 9 Tails than on its own

and momo himself was interested in ninetails chakra to revive god tree and not narutos.

That doesn't mean the rest of Naruto's Chakra on its own isn't something Momoshiki wouldn't want as well

2. Madara had incomplete tentails not prime Tentails.

The Incomplete Ten Tails is what your argument relies on bro you said its the main reason for the spacial curvature when it can't be cause that statement is 15 years removed from when the 10 Tails was last around and thounsands of years since Hagoromo's time

okay boy implied doesnt confirm its 100% narutos,

There's more reason to assume its Naruto rather than the 10 Tails from 15 years in the past

its your making assumptions that is just narutos.

Its a bigger assumptio that its from the Ten Tails