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Naruto: Speed Scaling

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Time to make a speed scaling now. Here is my blog about some important characters

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/My_scaling

Characters are rated as Relativistic+ because of Ay, as KCM can dodge his fastest attack, and this attack is faster than Lariat. MS Sasuke was a problem, but he scales to Relativistic combat speed and reactions and Relativistic+ reactions with his precognition

Now the calculations

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Naruto:_Sasuke_dodged_Lariat

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AlexSoloVaAlFuturo/Naruto_-_I_Have_No_Comments

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:I_am_myself_You_are_you/Kisame_reacted_Bee's_Lariat
 
Edo Nagato and Edo Itachi should scale from KCM. Edo Itachi scale from EMS Sasuke as well
 
I agree with the scaling for the important characters. They are the ones who the top tier would scale to.

For the top tier it will be easy to decide who scales
 
Will God tiers be "At least Relativistic+" or just "Relativistic+"

I think having "At least" in their rating would make way more sense.
 
You know... Relativistc+ Lariat made a certain amount of sense earlier but rereading the chapters I do think it is a bit inconsistent.

As we can see here Bee still has his 8-Tails chakra horns up on his arm which is still in the Lariat position, and he's still flying through the air from his earlier Lariat. Indicating he's still moving at about the same speed, but Jugo is capable of outrunning him while carrying two people? And Sasuke without even a basic level of Sharingan active can track his movements?

Aside from the calc for Madara's reaction speed, there is not a lot in the verse that supports the databook statement, even from the God Tiers.

If all the proposed changes are going ahead, that's fine, I just want to note that I'm not 100% confident in the proposed scaling. It's one of those things where I wish the creator of the series would just give us some hard numbers/feats in the series itself, like Toriko's author does.
 
Man bro Jugo doesn't scale to Lariet and he didn't put run it ƒñªÔÇìÔÖ鴩ŃñªÔÇìÔÖ鴩ŃñªÔÇìÔÖé´©Å

Creator of the series literally gave us a Databook

Also basic level of sharingan??? Something tells me you haven't actually been reading Naruto. Sasukes Base 3 time sharingan is MS level so what r u talking about?

Also Bee didn't even aim at Jugo. Bee aimed for the hill and destroyed it. Also it's clearly aim dodging even if Jugo had dodged it because Sasuke even states that Bee was moving in a straight line so how did u read the chapters again?
 
Damage this is a scaling thread

Lariat was already accepted to be that speed, if you have a problem with it again make another thread for it
 
You should talk this on the previous thread, not here. Now when the stuff was accepted, you came with new "problems".

Jügo reacting is an outlier. He can react to Ay at point blank as well, but again, outlier. Yes, Sasuke can react, so what? This is the parr of the scaling, not an argument that support your side.
 
I know it was already accepted, I'm not trying to stop the revisions taking place. Just wanted to note that I think there are problems with the overall ratings.

If I think the issues are too much in the future, I'll make a thread for it then.
 
To talk about scaling specifically then, this bit:

> could react to and fight on par with Ay amped by Onoki

From what I recall Madara never reacted to Ay amped by Onoki.
 
Damage3245 said:
You know... Relativistc+ Lariat made a certain amount of sense earlier but rereading the chapters I do think it is a bit inconsistent.
As we can see here Bee still has his 8-Tails chakra horns up on his arm which is still in the Lariat position, and he's still flying through the air from his earlier Lariat. Indicating he's still moving at about the same speed, but Jugo is capable of outrunning him while carrying two people? And Sasuke without even a basic level of Sharingan active can track his movements?

Aside from the calc for Madara's reaction speed, there is not a lot in the verse that supports the databook statement, even from the God Tiers.

If all the proposed changes are going ahead, that's fine, I just want to note that I'm not 100% confident in the proposed scaling. It's one of those things where I wish the creator of the series would just give us some hard numbers/feats in the series itself, like Toriko's author does.
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Juugo literally used rockets to get away from that not his own feet so it doe snot scale to his normal movement, and he did not have to go very far compared to Bee.


Not every author is Toriko's author most dont give numbers but give statements.
 
Can we change the ratings and justifications for the important characters based on my proposal? The others characters we just need to change the rating, not the justifications
 
Technically I don't think Ay ever said his attack was faster than his Lariat.
 
Yes - but there isn't any given reason why his Lariat has to be slower than that.

If he did a Lariat at 51% Lightspeed earlier, and then later he did a punch against Naruto that was 51% Lightspeed, that would still be his 'fastest attack'.
 
I just wanted to explain that it didn't mean the punch had to be faster than his Lariat. Also, could someone link me the scan of Ay saying he was using his fastest attack on Naruto?

EDIT: Never mind, I think it's this one.

That was the fastest punch he was capable of, but not specifically his fastest attack. Sorry for being pedantic. :p
 
There literally is a given reason Damage. A given reason by the character himself.

Also I don't know why u just applied the same speed as Lariet to his fastest attack?

Your making Lariet his fastest attack by applying what you want to the attack when Ay obviously went faster

Near light speed can range from 50 percent the speed of light to 99 percent the speed of light. We apply anything between that range to the punch and to Lariet

It's fine as long as you understand now tho
 
You didn't fix this bit:

> could react to and fight on par with Ay amped by Onoki

Unless you're fixing it for the profile itself.
 
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