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Naruto Part-II Profile Revamp

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Another profile revision for Nard, this time its his Beginning of Shippuden (BoS) and War-Arc profiles

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Naruto Part-II Sandbox

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Naruto War-Arc Sandbox

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Notable changes for both profiles:
1.Redone stamina section
2.Updated intelligence with the accepted CRT
3.Redone ability/resistance descriptions
4.Added images for notable attacks
5.Updated standard equipments
6.Added abilities/resistance

Agree-LordTracer, UchihaSlayer69, Finepoint
Disagree-
 
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List what changes you've made in the OP.
 
DavidTPPM said:
Bro gave Naruto CM1 and thought we wouldn't notice 💔
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Due to how wordy the Stamina section is, you should put it in a scrollable border
The intelligence section tabbers should be divided into General |  Combat
No need for brackets in a border (make it scrollable too)
I have a few issues with some abilities but it's a good job overall
Nice one!!
 
Testarossa002 said:
Due to how wordy the Stamina section is, you should put it in a scrollable border
The intelligence section tabbers should be divided into General |  Combat
No need for brackets in a border (make it scrollable too)
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Testarossa002 said:
I have a few issues with some abilities but it's a good job overall
Nice one!!
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thank you
DavidTPPM said:
Why does Itachis finger genjutsu have 4 layers of sleep inducement? 😭
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because it from his sharingan i think
Wrath_Of_Itachi said:
For Intelligence, you should add feats from his part 2 self instead of just using his part 1 feats.
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That can be done in a seperate thread, i just added what was already accepted
UchihaSlayer96 said:
I'll check this out later
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AlternativePrinciple said:
That can be done in a seperate thread, i just added what was already accepted
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no need for a separate thread. adding his part II intelligence feats will be good as supporting justifications to what’s already accepted.
 
AlternativePrinciple said:
itachi does put him under a ocular genjustu i think, nard even tries to use the non-ocular genjutsu nulling jutsu. But that does not work and he had to be bailed out by sakura
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Because Naruto didn't improve enough not because it was ocular genjustu. It's said twice to not be ocular genjustu.

And even if it was it still would not be Tsukiyomi level which is what has 4 layers. Basic 3t genjustu would only give 1 layer iirc
 
Looks good to me, although I would like to point out something with the Six Paths Senjutsu tab on the War Arc profiles. You don’t need to repost all the same powers from the War Arc tab, you can just put ‘All previous abilities greatly enhanced, in addition to’ and then list the new abilities.
 
LordTracer said:
Looks good to me, although I would like to point out something with the Six Paths Senjutsu tab on the War Arc profiles. You don’t need to repost all the same powers from the War Arc tab, you can just put ‘All previous abilities greatly enhanced, in addition to’ and then list the new abilities.
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Ahh, k I’ll fix that. Thanks for the input, appreciate it
 
Well, I'm glad someone finally made use of the work I put into the Hagoromo profile. Naruto is one of the people who benefit greatly from Hags.
The formatting and all the additional stuff you added seem good to me, so good job on allat. Although, I have the same issue with Six Path Naruto's formatting as Tracer, but he beat me to it.
Also, there's a couple of super minor issues with KCM and KM Naruto's P&A sections. Basically, some of the abilities you added to KCM Nard's section should be in Kurama Mode's. These are:
- Healing (...)
- Enhanced Energy Manipulation, Statistics Amplification & Power Bestowal (......)
- Enhanced Energy Projection, Body Control & Transformation (....)
- Energy Manipulation, Enhanced Energy Projection & Explosion Manipulation (The Tailed Beast Bomb....)
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Granted, KCM Naruto does gain access to Bijuu Bombs (but only Mini TBBs) after gaining Kurama's cooperation, but I think just putting it in his KCM tabber with no context is a tad misleading. I think what you should do is create an additional tabber for 'Mastered KCM' or 'Post-Kurama Cooperation KCM', where you can add abilities such as Mini TBBs and the ability to have Kurama break GJ for him. The rest should be added to his 'Kurama Mode' tabber.

The way I'd name them is as follows: 'Kyūbi Chakra Mode' for KCM, 'Kurama Chakra Mode' for Mastered KCM, and 'Kurama Mode' for.....well, Kurama Mode lol.
 
Looks generally good from a formatting perspective (I was called to evaluate this).
Since there's seemingly already knowledgeable staff here I'll let them handle the specifics as they're already doing.
 
I think Kuruma based stuff should be put in its own tabber until kcm.

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This has a lot of stuff that isn't replicated in basically any of Naruto's interactions to apply it to him. Naruto's aura is generally never shown to cause "intense fear, paralysis, illusions, suicidal urges, unconsciousness, and more". If there are examples, those should be used instead of the others. The others should also use the official panels. Also, going by the story, Naruto characters tend to have different feels to their chakra like the Uchihas, Bijus, kage level ninjas, or overall evil characters, so applying this as though base Naruto is on Orochimaru's level isn't accurate. The novel stuff is really iffy, for Fugaku, he stared at another ninja with his sharingan and he got scared by him, there's nothing saying this was aura alone, it's more accurate that Fugaku, the strongest Uchiha at the time is just that scary.
 
UchihaSlayer96 said:
Well, I'm glad someone finally made use of the work I put into the Hagoromo profile. Naruto is one of the people who benefit greatly from Hags.
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It was very helpful for nard lol
UchihaSlayer96 said:
The formatting and all the additional stuff you added seem good to me, so good job on allat. Although, I have the same issue with Six Path Naruto's formatting as Tracer, but he beat me to it.
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UchihaSlayer96 said:
Also, there's a couple of super minor issues with KCM and KM Naruto's P&A sections. Basically, some of the abilities you added to KCM Nard's section should be in Kurama Mode's. These are:

Granted, KCM Naruto does gain access to Bijuu Bombs (but only Mini TBBs) after gaining Kurama's cooperation, but I think just putting it in his KCM tabber with no context is a tad misleading. I think what you should do is create an additional tabber for 'Mastered KCM' or 'Post-Kurama Cooperation KCM', where you can add abilities such as Mini TBBs and the ability to have Kurama break GJ for him. The rest should be added to his 'Kurama Mode' tabber.

The way I'd name them is as follows: 'Kyūbi Chakra Mode' for KCM, 'Kurama Chakra Mode' for Mastered KCM, and 'Kurama Mode' for.....well, Kurama Mode lol.
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fixed. Thanks for the eval slayer, appreciate it
 
Arkenis said:
I think Kuruma based stuff should be put in its own tabber until kcm.
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Done that
Arkenis said:
This has a lot of stuff that isn't replicated in basically any of Naruto's interactions to apply it to him. Naruto's aura is generally never shown to cause "intense fear, paralysis, illusions, suicidal urges, unconsciousness, and more". If there are examples, those should be used instead of the others. The others should also use the official panels.
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Naruto is usually very understanding and tends to try and reconcile with his enemies instead of killing them. But when Naruto does want to kill someone he loses control and turns into the nine tails. This is also supported by the fact that when Naruto met nagato for the first time, he was so angry and ready to kill that he synced with Kurama’s own anger/hatred.

Furthermore this is done by all shinobi and is a byproduct of them trying to kill someone, so for indexing purposes i think naruto should have it
Arkenis said:
Also, going by the story, Naruto characters tend to have different feels to their chakra like the Uchihas, Bijus, kage level ninjas, or overall evil characters, so applying this as though base Naruto is on Orochimaru's level isn't accurate.
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This is just a general description of what auras injected with bloodlust can do. Of course the effects vary depending on the potency of the shinobi’s bloodlust, but at their bare minimum they should cause intense fear
Arkenis said:
The novel stuff is really iffy, for Fugaku, he stared at another ninja with his sharingan and he got scared by him, there's nothing saying this was aura alone, it's more accurate that Fugaku, the strongest Uchiha at the time is just that scary.
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I must have mixed up the novels scans, I’ll fix that. Thanks for pointing it out.
 
AlternativePrinciple said:
Naruto is usually very understanding and tends to try and reconcile with his enemies instead of killing them. But when Naruto does want to kill someone he loses control and turns into the nine tails. This is also supported by the fact that when Naruto met nagato for the first time, he was so angry and ready to kill that he synced with Kurama’s own anger/hatred.

Furthermore this is done by all shinobi and is a byproduct of them trying to kill someone, so for indexing purposes i think naruto should have it
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AlternativePrinciple said:
This is just a general description of what auras injected with bloodlust can do. Of course the effects vary depending on the potency of the shinobi’s bloodlust, but at their bare minimum they should cause intense fear
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For the most part, as you've kinda said, its with Kuruma, not him alone. It should just be put for when he's using Kuruma's chakra. And it really isn't done by all Shinobi. Basically none of the Akatsuki have these moments. Pain of all people pulled up in the village and dozens of weaker shinobi were fine fighting against him, same with basically any of the Konoha 11. Its simply too inconsistent to apply to them all I think.
 
Arkenis said:
For the most part, as you've kinda said, its with Kuruma, not him alone. It should just be put for when he's using Kuruma's chakra.
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Arkenis said:
And it really isn't done by all Shinobi. Basically none of the Akatsuki have these moments. Pain of all people pulled up in the village and dozens of weaker shinobi were fine fighting against him, same with basically any of the Konoha 11. Its simply too inconsistent to apply to them all I think.
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Most of the peps are just resistant to it, and the special cases like orochimaru or obito have so much bloodlust that it causes peps to fear them anyway.
 
AlternativePrinciple said:
Most of the peps are just resistant to it, and the special cases like orochimaru or obito have so much bloodlust that it causes peps to fear them anyway.
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Seems like an awfully convenient and unlikely interpretation doesn't it? Is it really more believable that the entire village is resistant to a hax Pain supposedly has and just never used, than to say Pain just doesn't have that ability?

Especially with the fact that, like Arkenis pointed out, different characters have different chakra "flavors" or "types". Where certain people like Sasuke or Kurama have more sinister chakra while people like Naruto have bright and warm chakra with seemingly the exact opposite effects.

At best you could argue Naruto could technically, "possibly" perform this to an unknown extent if he were to be bloodlusted but certainly not to the same level as say Orochimaru who's naturally evil.
 
DavidTPPM said:
Seems like an awfully convenient and unlikely interpretation doesn't it? Is it really more believable that the entire village is resistant to a hax Pain supposedly has and just never used, than to say Pain just doesn't have that ability?
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It really isn’t, in the novels kid itachi was getting fear haxed by obito even though itach has a baseline resistance to fear hax. He then becomes resistant to Obito’s bloodlust later on

The novels explains that shinobi are able to have an aura and inject that aura with their bloodlust. This bloodlust is the defining aspect in determining how potent the fear hax. Now folks like tsunade or the anbu are able to feel pains bloodlust and comment on it but it doesn’t outright paralyze them like it did to p1 team 7. His bloodlust isn’t strong enough to overpower their resistance to it.

Unlike Orochimaru whose bloodlust is stronger then two jonins trying to kill (Zabuza and kakshi) each others. That’s why Sasuke and Sakura gets fear haxed by orochi.
DavidTPPM said:
Especially with the fact that, like Arkenis pointed out, different characters have different chakra "flavors" or "types". Where certain people like Sasuke or Kurama have more sinister chakra while people like Naruto have bright and warm chakra with seemingly the exact opposite effects.
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The nature of their chakra doesn’t have much of a bearing on how their fear hax works. Because kurama even though was rid of his hatered for humanity was still able to fear hax shin’s clones via being angry and wanting to kill him.

I talked to net about it and he clarified that these sinister chakras or how strong ones chakra is does not fall under fear hax but rather social influence. Fear hax is the ability of one to cause fear regardless of power gap or such via supernatural means. So regardless these chakra types would be just social influence under the wiki which nard got on his profile
DavidTPPM said:
At best you could argue Naruto could technically, "possibly" perform this to an unknown extent if he were to be bloodlusted but certainly not to the same level as say Orochimaru who's naturally evil.
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That’s true he shouldn’t be able to do it on Orochimaru’s level, but i think he should be able to it like Zabuza and Kakashi. This should be a minimum as Sasuke comments that the bloodlust between two Jonins level fighters which was causing him so much fear and madnesses. After kakashi stoped exuding bloodlust and reassured Sasuke did he calm down.
 
AlternativePrinciple said:
It really isn’t, in the novels kid itachi was getting fear haxed by obito even though itach has a baseline resistance to fear hax. He then becomes resistant to Obito’s bloodlust later on

The novels explains that shinobi are able to have an aura and inject that aura with their bloodlust. This bloodlust is the defining aspect in determining how potent the fear hax. Now folks like tsunade or the anbu are able to feel pains bloodlust and comment on it but it doesn’t outright paralyze them like it did to p1 team 7. His bloodlust isn’t strong enough to overpower their resistance to it.

Unlike Orochimaru whose bloodlust is stronger than two jonins trying to kill (Zabuza and kakshi) each others. That’s why Sasuke and Sakura gets fear haxed by orochi.
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Yeah my only doubt is that Naruto doesn't really seem to be doing this like, ever.
AlternativePrinciple said:
The nature of their chakra doesn’t have much of a bearing on how their fear hax works. Because kurama even though was rid of his hatered for humanity was still able to fear hax shin’s clones via being angry and wanting to kill him.
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I really doubt that. Kuramas chakra terrified Karin just off the sheer nature of being so dark while Narutos chakra seemed to actually have a calming effect on Karin.

The Shin example is kinda hard to evaluate. It's not like he got fear haxxed, he literally saw a giant demon standing behind Naruto with a sharingan that could see it's ridiculous amount of chakra/power. I really don't think Kurama needs to hate humanity to be scary lol.
AlternativePrinciple said:
I talked to net about it and he clarified that these sinister chakras or how strong ones chakra is does not fall under fear hax but rather social influence. Fear hax is the ability of one to cause fear regardless of power gap or such via supernatural means. So regardless these chakra types would be just social influence under the wiki which nard got on his profile
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That makes sense (naturally you're going to be more scared of an evil murdererman than a chill dude, that doesn't mean the evil guy has some supernatural fear hax). But it does kinda put certain feats into question because the effects of the fear could very well be amplified by the social influencing.
AlternativePrinciple said:
That’s true he shouldn’t be able to do it on Orochimaru’s level, but i think he should be able to it like Zabuza and Kakashi. This should be a minimum as Sasuke comments that the bloodlust between two Jonins level fighters which was causing him so much fear and madnesses. After kakashi stoped exuding bloodlust and reassured Sasuke did he calm down.
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Fair enough, I agree. Although I think it should be noted that Naruto doesn't do this in character, and the extraordinary effects and feats that come from people like Orochimaru shouldn't really be listed on Narutos profile.
 
DavidTPPM said:
Yeah my only doubt is that Naruto doesn't really seem to be doing this like, ever.
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yea, we can just give it to him because kurama can do it for him.
DavidTPPM said:
The Shin example is kinda hard to evaluate. It's not like he got fear haxxed, he literally saw a giant demon standing behind Naruto with a sharingan that could see it's ridiculous amount of chakra/power. I really don't think Kurama needs to hate humanity to be scary lol.
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I would agree, but we see that not only the shin that saw kurama start shaking in fear but also the ones around him do so as well. This can be supporting evidance that its was bloodlust from kurama radiating from naruto and hence scaring the shins around him as well
DavidTPPM said:
That makes sense (naturally you're going to be more scared of an evil murdererman than a chill dude, that doesn't mean the evil guy has some supernatural fear hax). But it does kinda put certain feats into question because the effects of the fear could very well be amplified by the social influencing.

Fair enough, I agree. Although I think it should be noted that Naruto doesn't do this in character, and the extraordinary effects and feats that come from people like Orochimaru shouldn't really be listed on Narutos profile.
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Arkenis said:
For the most part, as you've kinda said, its with Kuruma, not him alone. It should just be put for when he's using Kuruma's chakra. And it really isn't done by all Shinobi. Basically none of the Akatsuki have these moments. Pain of all people pulled up in the village and dozens of weaker shinobi were fine fighting against him, same with basically any of the Konoha 11. Its simply too inconsistent to apply to them all I think.
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This kind of thing seems to be more evident when ninjas are really angry, even calm and patient ones like Mitsuki have demonstrated this, or Yodo, I don't think it's inconsistent that every ninja can do this, it's just not demonstrated all the time.
 
DarkMatter29 said:
This kind of thing seems to be more evident when ninjas are really angry, even calm and patient ones like Mitsuki have demonstrated this, or Yodo, I don't think it's inconsistent that every ninja can do this, it's just not demonstrated all the time.
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Nothing is happening with Mitsuki there. You're applying five+ affects when he doesn't even show one. Same with Yodo. If something isn't demonstrated even half the time, it's inconsistent. All this shows is that most ninjas give off a feel of bloodlust, a common trait in fiction. This doesn't now mean we grant all their aura affects like intense fear, paralysis, illusions, suicidal urges, unconsciousness, and more.
 
Arkenis said:
Nothing is happening with Mitsuki there. You're applying five+ affects when he doesn't even show one. Same with Yodo. If something isn't demonstrated even half the time, it's inconsistent. All this shows is that most ninjas give off a feel of bloodlust, a common trait in fiction. This doesn't now mean we grant all their aura affects like intense fear, paralysis, illusions, suicidal urges, unconsciousness, and more.
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Well, the mental effects/paralysis mentioned in the OP are done through bloodlust, embedded in the ninjas' aura/chakra, as demonstrated with Kakashi, Zabuza, Orochimaru, Naruto, and Sasuke. Although some chakras are so intense that they manifest physically and affect the environment, such as Naruto, Orochimaru and Hiruzen, Tobirama, Zabuza and Haku, that is why they have explosive/elemental aura. These are just a few examples.
 
DarkMatter29 said:
Kakashi,
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That's Zabuza not Kakashi.

DarkMatter29 said:
Orochimaru,
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Completely fine.

DarkMatter29 said:
Naruto,
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Simply doesn't happen for majority of the characters.

DarkMatter29 said:
Sasuke.
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Fine.

DarkMatter29 said:
Naruto,
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That's Kuruma.

DarkMatter29 said:
Orochimaru and Hiruzen
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Most of the cast doesn't show this. Also supports what I already said

Arkenis said:
The others should also use the official panels. Also, going by the story, Naruto characters tend to have different feels to their chakra like the Uchihas, Bijus, kage level ninjas, or overall evil characters, so applying this as though base Naruto is on Orochimaru's level isn't accurate.
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We could apply this for Kages since it's kages who do this like we saw with the reanimated hokages.

DarkMatter29 said:
Zabuza and Haku,
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Just basic auras.
 
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