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Naruto Moon splitting calc

Well if there's no problems with my calculation then I'm gonna go back to waiting in calculation evaluation limbo for it to either be accepted or for me to need a different pixel length and adjust accordingly (gonna have to wait on that regardless cause I can't do it myself).

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Well if there's no problems with my calculation then I'm gonna go back to waiting in calculation evaluation limbo for it to either be accepted or for me to need a different pixel length and adjust accordingly (gonna have to wait on that regardless cause I can't do it myself).

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This is not the place to comment on this.
 
This is not the place to comment on this.
It is, considering my calc is in the literal first sentence of the post

What is your calculation even for? I clicked the link and it wasn’t Naruto?
It's for a different moon slicing feat which uses the exact same mathematics for it, just adjusted to account for the actual moon's stats and the speed of the calc at hand (which the OP had issues with too, but with everything said here it's safe to say there's no problem with it in my scenario)
 
The lowballing stuff is more to do with the narrative portion of the feat, inconsistent portrayals, and what thread mods agreed was a fine compromise interpretation for the movie. But feel free to explain why you think it’s a lowball.
If you cut a brick in half and the fragments from that brick move the brick itself a little bit, thats a portion of the energy from cutting the brick. You still had to cut through that material and the KE of the brick being moved is a byproduct of that cut.
 
If you cut a brick in half and the fragments from that brick move the brick itself a little bit, thats a portion of the energy from cutting the brick. You still had to cut through that material and the KE of the brick being moved is a byproduct of that cut.
The debris didn’t move the moon in half… stop spouting unsubstantiated headcanon. But accepting your interpretation doesn’t result in any upgrade. It’s just conservation of energy.
 
The debris didn’t move the moon in half… stop spouting unsubstantiated headcanon. But accepting your interpretation doesn’t result in any upgrade. It’s just conservation of energy.
Clearly it did, are you suggesting Toneri moved the moon apart after lasering it? That makes quite literally no sense, and isn't seen. My assumption has more substance and makes more sense.
 
Clearly it did, are you suggesting Toneri moved the moon apart after lasering it? That makes quite literally no sense, and isn't seen. My assumption has more substance and makes more sense.
Yes clearly it did lmao, he swings his sword through the moon and it splits in two immediately following that. Google "Toneri splits the moon" and watch the clip. There is no debris pushing the moon halves apart, the energy from Toneri's giant sword and its accompanying motion is transferred into the halves of the moon causing it to split apart. It makes perfectly logical and physical sense, not to mention it is verbatim what we see. Your assumption is entirely unsubstantiated, aka you haven't provided a single piece of evidence for these pieces of debris magically moving the halves of the moon apart.

What I'm suggesting is that Toneri's act of cutting the moon in half caused it to split apart, not that he magically moved it apart after cutting it. And let's break down why physically this is the case. When you cut something in half, what you're doing is wedging a sharp object into what's being cut, pushing whatever is being cut into two pieces. Because the sword is not 2D, it has width to it, wedging it through an object as you cut it will apply an outward force pushing the object being cut apart. This results in both halves splitting as we see in the movie. It's the same premise as splitting wood with an axe, it wedges the two halves of the wood apart.
 
The force also is projected down, and the Moon halves go away from each other, aka not down… so yeah, just debris.
 
The force also is projected down, and the Moon halves go away from each other, aka not down… so yeah, just debris.
No

What I'm suggesting is that Toneri's act of cutting the moon in half caused it to split apart, not that he magically moved it apart after cutting it. And let's break down why physically this is the case. When you cut something in half, what you're doing is wedging a sharp object into what's being cut, pushing whatever is being cut into two pieces. Because the sword is not 2D, it has width to it, wedging it through an object as you cut it will apply an outward force pushing the object being cut apart. This results in both halves splitting as we see in the movie. It's the same premise as splitting wood with an axe, it wedges the two halves of the wood apart.
Read this ^

The sword is not a 2D object, it has width. Therefore an inherent horizontal/sideways force is being applied, this is just inherently true. So no, not just debris, it's from the sword.
 
What I'm suggesting is that Toneri's act of cutting the moon in half caused it to split apart, not that he magically moved it apart after cutting it. And let's break down why physically this is the case. When you cut something in half, what you're doing is wedging a sharp object into what's being cut, pushing whatever is being cut into two pieces. Because the sword is not 2D, it has width to it, wedging it through an object as you cut it will apply an outward force pushing the object being cut apart. This results in both halves splitting as we see in the movie. It's the same premise as splitting wood with an axe, it wedges the two halves of the wood apart.
Eh, Toneri used a laser, it's more so like if you cut in half an object with something that has no mass, assuming there are fragments, no outward force would be applied and the fragments would do all of the work to push them apart.
 
Eh, Toneri used a laser, it's more so like if you cut in half an object with something that has no mass, assuming there are fragments, no outward force would be applied and the fragments would do all of the work to push them apart.
No it emits light but it's a giant TSO sword, which are physical objects with mass and physicality.
 
The force also is projected down, and the Moon halves go away from each other, aka not down… so yeah, just debris.
Clearly it did, are you suggesting Toneri moved the moon apart after lasering it? That makes quite literally no sense, and isn't seen. My assumption has more substance and makes more sense.
Have ya just never seen a guy cut an apple or some fruit in half mid air and the halves fall to the opposite sides instead of straight down?

Eh, Toneri used a laser, it's more so like if you cut in half an object with something that has no mass, assuming there are fragments, no outward force would be applied and the fragments would do all of the work to push them apart.
Please explain how much debris/mass would be needed to push the halves away hundreds of km from each other. You are asserting something that takes more assumption than Toneri's cut caused the push from its force. And its not a laser, its chakra, chakra has mass.
 
Please explain how much debris/mass would be needed to push the halves away hundreds of km from each other. You are asserting something that takes more assumption than Toneri's cut caused the push from its force. And its not a laser, its chakra, chakra has mass.
The chakra having enough mass to send the moon flying a few thousand meters is laughable.
 
Can you prove that?
Watch the clip brother, he quite literally turns a bunch of glowing TSOs into the sword...
Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion: While using Tenseigan Chakra Mode, Toneri focuses a tremendous amount of chakra into one of his Truth Seeking Balls and grasps it in his hand to create a giant golden sword of pure chakra, capable of easily slicing the entire moon in half with a single swipe.
This is taken straight from Toneri's very own page... like familiarize yourself with the topic of conversation before you spout nonsense like fact.

The chakra having enough mass to send the moon flying a few thousand meters is laughable.
Your incredulity is beyond irrelevant. No one cares if you think it's laughable, it's fiction about ninja's with super powers, stop acting so ignorant.
 
Your incredulity is beyond irrelevant. No one cares if you think it's laughable, it's fiction about ninja's with super powers, stop acting so ignorant.
It's not incredulity, its just nonsense what you're claiming, the chakra would have to weight tremendous amounts for it to move the moon like that, it makes no sense as all characters would weigh massively above what they currently weight.
 
It's not incredulity, its just nonsense what you're claiming, the chakra would have to weight tremendous amounts for it to move the moon like that, it makes no sense as all characters would weigh massively above what they currently weight.
That is quite literally the definition of incredulity, you cannot believe that characters can lift or move with that weight. Also, this doesn't even entail that the chakra sword have an inherent size, since force encompasses more than just mass. Either way characters in Naruto have Class Z lifting strength anyway, so it's far from inconsistent with what's accepted with the verse. Also this is explicitly for the chakra sword, just cuz Toneri can create a super dense chakra TSO sword doesn't mean all chakra has that same density or mass either. Your speaking pure nonsense born from ignorance and incredulity.
 
That is quite literally the definition of incredulity, you cannot believe that characters can lift or move with that weight. Also, this doesn't even entail that the chakra sword have an inherent size, since force encompasses more than just mass. Either way characters in Naruto have Class Z lifting strength anyway, so it's far from inconsistent with what's accepted with the verse. Also this is explicitly for the chakra sword, just cuz Toneri can create a super dense chakra TSO sword doesn't mean all chakra has that same density or mass either. Your speaking pure nonsense born from ignorance and incredulity.
That isn't what I'm saying at all, I'm saying Toneri has a stated weight and it's far below what his weight would be if he had super dense chakra.
 
That isn't what I'm saying at all, I'm saying Toneri has a stated weight and it's far below what his weight would be if he had super dense chakra.
Yeah the chakra doesn't always effect world or character when its in their body or around them, the sword also came from the tso so there's that.
 
Oh, the sword has it's own chakra? Also, don't call me a goon, be kind, first rule on site.
Spade a spade. Prove that the density of chakra condensed in the sword is the same density condensed in Toneri. And then prove that Toneri simply cannot lift the weight of that chakra if it was inside him. Toneri's weight is for his "human" body, it's not a weight for his TCM form anyway.
 
Spade a spade. Prove that the density of chakra condensed in the sword is the same density condensed in Toneri. And then prove that Toneri simply cannot lift the weight of that chakra if it was inside him. Toneri's weight is for his "human" body, it's not a weight for his TCM form anyway.
Bro what, I'm asking you questions. Does the sword have it's own chakra? Can you make chakra more dense in another item?
 
Bro what, I'm asking you questions. Does the sword have it's own chakra? Can you make chakra more dense in another item?
Yes the sword has its own chakra that's not just ambient residing in Toneri. Yes you can make chakra more dense in other items and outside of your body, that's the entire premise behind Bijuudama.
 
If you cut a brick in half and the fragments from that brick move the brick itself a little bit, thats a portion of the energy from cutting the brick. You still had to cut through that material and the KE of the brick being moved is a byproduct of that cut.
Splitting the moon is fundamentally different from splitting a brick due to the moon’s immense gravitational binding energy. Cutting through the moon would require overcoming not just its material structure but also the gravity pulling its halves together. Unlike a brick, whose fragments might move due to external forces like gravity or momentum, the moon’s pieces would need significant additional energy to separate fully. This separation isn’t a natural byproduct of cutting but a distinct process requiring its own energy input.
 
Splitting the moon is fundamentally different from splitting a brick due to the moon’s immense gravitational binding energy. Cutting through the moon would require overcoming not just its material structure but also the gravity pulling its halves together. Unlike a brick, whose fragments might move due to external forces like gravity or momentum, the moon’s pieces would need significant additional energy to separate fully. This separation isn’t a natural byproduct of cutting but a distinct process requiring its own energy input.
Therefore it's a lowball.
 
Nobody still explained why you use the speed of the split and mass of the Moon, but if this is considered “true” here, ig I can’t really do anything about it. Good luck with breaking physics to get a higher number.
 
Nobody still explained why you use the speed of the split and mass of the Moon, but if this is considered “true” here, ig I can’t really do anything about it. Good luck with breaking physics to get a higher number.
Because it's a portion of the guy who cut the moons energy.
 
Nobody still explained why you use the speed of the split and mass of the Moon, but if this is considered “true” here, ig I can’t really do anything about it. Good luck with breaking physics to get a higher number.
The speed comes from the distance we see the moon move divided by the timeframe we get in the movie. And the mass comes from the mass of the moon minus the hollow portion of the moon, something we also see in the movie. The mass is actually less than the irl moon fyi.
 
Wait whats being debated here, am I lost?
 
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