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Naruto/Boruto General Dattebayo Discussion thread #42

BMWFanboy said:
Mountain level Kinshiki? So who the hell thinks Kinshiki is Pain Arc Naruto level
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not only him

adult base naruto and momo aswell

wont say his name but he is bleach fan lol
 
Now, now, let not turn this thread into something toxic; this place should be a nice space to talk about Naruto and give our opinions, likes and stuff about it and make friends along the way. The person named in that reply has his or her own opinions just like everyone else, and he or she deserve respect no matter if some of you doesn't agree with, or even if actually don't like, him or her, just like he or she should do with the others.

We all here have the right to say our opinions in a respectful and calm way, that's how people understand each other.

I'm not saying that there is something wrong right now nor that this is bad and of course I don't want to be unrespecteful or a jerk with somebody and even less try to push my beliefs over the others, but if you don't relax and try to understand each other, the things may become tense and scale in the future. That Naruto is a still on going series isn't the reason why it still being constantly revised.

Eternal virtual hugs for everyone.
 
BMWFanboy said:
Madara and Hashirama aren't a valid comparison. Why? Because Madara and Hashirama can do more than just absorb Jutsu and fire it back, coming back to Kaguya being way for that reason, if you're referring to simply her Vacuum attacks being useless, that's not the best counter. Naruto wasn't scared of Obito even tho only Senjutsu would work on him. Kaguya can't be scared of Momoshiki simply because he renders one of her many attacks useless. Therefore the only viable conclusion is power, oh and I heard you were getting Kaguya upgraded to 5-A post chakra absorption for everything, I support that so can you put the link here
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Again, that's not the point of the point of the reference.

And you are assuming a lot, you do realize that, right? Naruto not being scared of Obito doesn't even help your case, it proves mine. What facts do you have to say Kaguya wasn't scared of Facing Momoshiki due to his ability? And please, don't try to use irrelevant comparisons.

The point of the Madara/Hashirama/Itachi/Shisui reference is to illustrate that someone's "Power" isn't the only thing that can make someone scared or weary.

  • Do you think Madara/Hashirama have 0 reasons to be weary of Itachi's Tsukiyomi and Shisui's Koto Amatsukami?
And If your answer is no, please provide reasoning. If you do believe they have reason to be weary of them for those abilities, you're just putting the nail in the "Power" arguments coffin.

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As far as Kishi writing or not writing something, no, it's not irrelevant. Kishi didn't write the Novel nor supervised it. The Novel contradicts the movie and every other medium. Kishi not being involved is a big invalidation towards it.
 
Well, that's a good approach, a friend call then cheese songs that our parents use to embarrass us when we a friend come to visit. >U<
 
Don't comment on it for now unless you're a staff member or a calc group member, i'll make a discussion thread open to everyone if the calc is fine.
 
TheFinalOrder said:
BMWFanboy said:
Madara and Hashirama aren't a valid comparison. Why? Because Madara and Hashirama can do more than just absorb Jutsu and fire it back, coming back to Kaguya being way for that reason, if you're referring to simply her Vacuum attacks being useless, that's not the best counter. Naruto wasn't scared of Obito even tho only Senjutsu would work on him. Kaguya can't be scared of Momoshiki simply because he renders one of her many attacks useless. Therefore the only viable conclusion is power, oh and I heard you were getting Kaguya upgraded to 5-A post chakra absorption for everything, I support that so can you put the link here
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Again, that's not the point of the point of the reference.
And you are assuming a lot, you do realize that, right? Naruto not being scared of Obito doesn't even help your case, it proves mine. What facts do you have to say Kaguya wasn't scared of Facing Momoshiki due to his ability? And please, don't try to use irrelevant comparisons.

The point of the Madara/Hashirama/Itachi/Shisui reference is to illustrate that someone's "Power" isn't the only thing that can make someone scared or weary.

  • Do you think Madara/Hashirama have 0 reasons to be weary of Itachi's Tsukiyomi and Shisui's Koto Amatsukami?
And If your answer is no, please provide reasoning. If you do believe they have reason to be weary of them for those abilities, you're just putting the nail in the "Power" arguments coffin.

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As far as Kishi writing or not writing something, no, it's not irrelevant. Kishi didn't write the Novel nor supervised it. The Novel contradicts the movie and every other medium. Kishi not being involved is a big invalidation towards it.
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I didn't use an invalid comparison, you did, Madara and Hashirama vs Itachi and Shisui? You do realise Koto is nothing if one can simply get out of it's range and do a large scale AoE attack, and Tsukuyomi is even easier to deal with because it requires eye contact and Madara or Hashirama can easily fight with closed eyes? And if they knew about these abilities like Kaguya knew of Momoshiki's, they would definitely not fear them for the reasons I've provided

That proof isn't on me, it's on you. You have to prove Kaguya was scared of his ability, likewise, I can prove if Kaguya was stronger Momoshiki definitely would not have been able to absorb her Jutsu, he would've overflowed his chakra capacity as the series shows us with two characters on different occasions. But there is no reason to be scared if someone can asborb one of your attacks, that's not something like Mind Manipulation which if Momo had you could make an argument for. Kaguya doesn't even use that attack that much, so there's no reason to fear someone on the basis of the fact that they can maybe absorb an attack you don't use 90% of the time. The only other reason to be scared is if that person's raw strength scares you


And no, it isn't, especially when the movie, the manga, the anime, the game and other novels reinforce the same shtick. You're just arguing for the sake of arguing
 
Tons

Mid-high tiers would become Sub rel God tiers push up to 5-A maybe higher, Top tiers like Toneri would become 5-B or so


And that's just for the planet size, if we could scale the moon from the planet then it'd probably hit tier 4 for god tiers.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
If it goes through, how many calcs would be affected?
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Toneri's moon moving

Base Momo Kin and Ura anime speed

A possible surface wipe for Momo

Madara spreading Shinju

Naruto and Sasuke crossing to the valley in base
 
And you should've used the Earth as shown from the Last instead of that mini map Tata, that calc ain't accurate
 
The picture from the last requires guesswork, the one from the manga actually has locations annotated and likely drawn more accurately since they probably put more effort into drawing an actual map of the shinobi continents than a random 2 second shot of the planet in a 2 hour movie.
 
It doesn't require any guesswork, the manga map has so many drawings that singular instance is the inconsistent one. The location of the countries perfectly syncs in with all maps shown in the manga as well
 
Compared to this, the shape of the countries has changed almost completely, this has the Frost protuding out, the war one has it flat and inside
 
The shape of the countries hasn't changed drastically though, it's just been more smoothed out and considering there are HUNDREDS of chapters between those two maps it makes sense

Again mine is actually annotated, the most recent drawn map of the planet and actually consistent
 
You call going from bulging out to turning almost inward smooth?

Mine is equally well explained, but better yet, it's actually the WHOLE planet, much more recent than the manga map (pre-2011 vs 2014) and equally consistent, while yours assumes the map shown also shows both of the ends of the Earth whereas the island at the right clearly disproves it
 
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