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Nabu Low 1-C Upgrade

Thank you to everybody who are helping out here.
 
I am hesitant to say that Nabu (On Earth) is comparable to Godheads. We would need to discuss how "Boomtube effect" applies in this scenario. On Earth, it only took the Ruby of Life plus Mordru's power to rip the universe in half split among different people to contend with the lords of order.
I'm kinda with this. Once in the material world its very rare for people to have full on Tier 2 or 1 statements. I think this idea
I still think it's fair to make 2 Keys which Antvasima suggested earlier: Emanation (Nabu), and True Form (Nabu). We can rate the former as 2-A and the latter as Low 1-C.
Isn't to bad too be looked at.
 
"I'm kinda with this. Once in the material world its very rare for people to have full on Tier 2 or 1 statements. I think this idea"

Except these in the very same issue. Pretty much as explicit as it can get with how they reference crisis-level events.

(Btw, I still think that my earlier comparison should remove concerns like these)
 
I still think it's fair to make 2 Keys which Antvasima suggested earlier: Emanation (Nabu), and True Form (Nabu). We can rate the former as 2-A and the latter as Low 1-C.
So should we apply this then?
 
Okay. I will unlock the Doctor Fate page then. Tell me here when you are done.

Also, should I unlock any other pages for you as well?
 
Mordru deserves to be upgraded too, since he's also a Lord of Chaos and all the reasoning given above applies to him too, but this also means we should give him two extra keys like we're doing with Nabu. Can't think of anyone else who scales though.
 
Mordru deserves to be upgraded too, since he's also a Lord of Chaos and all the reasoning given above applies to him too, but this also means we should give him two extra keys like we're doing with Nabu. Can't think of anyone else who scales though.
Okay. I will unlock his page as well then. Tell me here when you are done.
 
That should suffice.

I'll be adding citations to the page later today.
Mordru deserves to be upgraded too, since he's also a Lord of Chaos and all the reasoning given above applies to him too, but this also means we should give him two extra keys like we're doing with Nabu. Can't think of anyone else who scales though.
Okay. I will unlock his page as well then. Tell me here when you are done.
@Firestorm808 @Hykuu
 
I'm against it 100%. We don't scale characters that way from what I remember especially when they defeat superman via kryptonite,red sun or magic.
Superman may've been said to be "vulnerable" to magic, but he's not just not specifically vulnerable to it, but still resists it more than average Joe, often taking potent magical attacks. If he was vulnerable or had no resistance to it, he would die
 
Yeah superman also resist's magical attacks countless of times infact but we know his still vulnerable to it so anyone defeating him via magic shouldn't be used to scale them above him. Maybe some exception may be given but I don't think it's right to scale magical characters defeating him as a credible thing cause I see no difference with this abd kryptonite or red sun.
 
@Antvasima How does the page look now?
It mostly seems fine to me, with the exception of that you included defeating a Superman copy with magic.

 
Okay. That is probably fine then.
 
Maybe "Possibly limited Power Mimicry" would be fine?
 
Well, I think that it was done via raw power.
 
The scan says he can "approximate" Superman's powers. How should we interpret that?
The link doesn't work so I just replied on what you typed about replicating superman powers.
But approximating should deal with something with analysis but antvasima proposal also works well I guess.
 
Okay. Thank you for helping out.
 
Magic isn’t
It is. He takes more damage from it, it regularly breaches his durability and he has no resistance to a decent swath of magical abilities. People confuse weakness with something like an active debuff when it's not. Humans are weak to swords and bullets, but neither emit human killing radiation. We just aren't tough enough to resist a claymore slicing us in half.
 
Okay. Thank you for helping out.
  • Justice League of America Vol 1 #37, August 1965
    • Fate says his magic will help him approximate Superman's powers.
    • Fate grabs and hits Thunder-Bolt against a ship's anchor.
    • Fate breaks out of a folded anchor
  • Justice League of America Vol 1 #38, September 1965
    • Fate says he not only has to duplicate the fake Superman's powers but top them too.
    • Magic protects fate from Fake Superman, and nothing can protect Superman from his magic.
    • Fate's wizard fist hits Fake Superman with telling effect. Fate knows that Magic is a weakness of Superman so he dished out a big helping of it with his attacks.
 
Well, if Doctor Fate was stated to exceed the power of Superman, that is probably fine to scale from in itself, but 1965 was long before Superman reached his height of powerful feats.
 
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