[Murder Drones] Cyn 3-A Downgrade & small Absolute Solver tiering change

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

By the way how many mods are needed for this ,2 or 3

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

By the way how many mods are needed for this ,2 or 3

2

 

[AlloyAmi]

was moreso asking about all nulls being considered black holes not their fluntuating ap, because the only time we see them create something actually black hole like is from a byproduct of using one of their explosions in episode 6, (starts absorbing like one here) and shown here, so I was moreso wondering if these are the specific ones that should be calced instead vs the other ones with different functionalities (though the value probably isnt that different considering black holes probably 5-b)

 

[AlloyAmi]

bump

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

also Cyn peaks at 4-B not High 4-C since the High 4-C calc doesn't account for angles

(Though I still need to get said calc approved)

 

[AlloyAmi]

is there a reason nulls are treated as black holes outside of them looking like them? they dont really function like black holes a majority of the time and are moreso just used for some weird hax that kinda just literally nullifies space either by literally stopping it in reality or quite literall explode or dura neg destroying whatevers there and has been shown turning things into some weird organic glop so im not sure how we should treat that. they also have been used as slicing disks.

heres all the diffirent usages of it to help come to a conclusion because im a bit torn on it:

this is the closest thing to a black hole appearance i found overall along with this and if thats fine then sure but they seem to act differently across its usage and are moreso created as a byproduct of the null instead of being the null itself in these 2 situations.

null creating an explosion

null warping space and turning the surrounding area to organic waste

another explosion

explosion

nulls being used as discs that can slice through anything and can just open a hole where it was summoned behind n (This is what tugia used for their calc)

same as above

a (null? likely is the singularity to destroy the planet which would probably be overall seperate) being used to create giant tentacles that can tear apart the planet, though this is likely the one that took them some time to do.

a null being used as a projectile that can go through a planet

this projectile also caused whatever hit to have an error and literally be frozen in reality

nulls being used as projectiles and they create explosions that disperse clouds

null creates a hole through the planet with a piercing beam of light

not sure how the core should be differentiated but it can stop time and also reduce things hit into organic waste

overall they seem to have some weird dura neg, spatial manip, transmutation or matter manip (for the organic thing idk) and likely information manip with how it can just cause an error with reality which is kinda consistent with how the solver manipulates reality like code for its hax.

im not against it being a "black hole" but i feel like this should be disucussed and evaluated as nearly all of its occurances simply dont function as one, including the one used for the main calc on the page.

@FinePoint @Psychomaster35 can i get your opinions on this?

 

[TugiaTheNarrator]

@FinePoint @Psychomaster35 can i get your opinions on this?

normal users can't tag staff, unfortunately.
U need to reply to them to get their attention

 

[FinePoint]

@FinePoint @Psychomaster35 can i get your opinions on this?

It seems I previously disagreed with treating them like black holes, so unless something has changed, that's probably still true.