Mr. Incredible vs Iron Monger (MCU)

[Coolboy6]

Obadiah Stane is on a mission to kill the Incredibles as they are getting in the way of his plans, so he flies to their house and blows it up. Mr. Incredible has gotten arrived at the scene and gets his family to safety before he puts on his super suit and confronts Obadiah.

Both 8-C, speed equalized
Mr. Incredible: 7

Iron Monger:

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Who has the AP Advantage?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I’ll give it to mongar cuz ranged attacks

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Who has the AP Advantage?

Physically speaking, possibly bob

 

[CBslayeR]

I’ll give it to mongar cuz ranged attacks

Most of Mongers weapons won't be that effective on Bob due to the suit, and Bob is way more skilled and tactical. Bob also has a LS advantage so if they end up grappling Bob's gonna be able to rip off the suits limbs effectively disarming him. Voting Bob

 

[Coolboy6]

Counted

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Most of Mongers weapons won't be that effective on Bob due to the suit, and Bob is way more skilled and tactical. Bob also has a LS advantage so if they end up grappling Bob's gonna be able to rip off the suits limbs effectively disarming him. Voting Bob

What durability dose bobs suit offer? To some degree but he manly just uses his brute strength(albiet in smart ways). I don’t really see how bobs LS would allow him to do that. Still voting for mongar

 

[CBslayeR]

What durability dose bobs suit offer? To some degree but he manly just uses his brute strength(albiet in smart ways). I don’t really see how bobs LS would allow him to do that. Still voting for mongar

His suit is bullet proof and heat resistant, which is literally all of Iron Monger's weapons. Bob's has at least a 20x LS advantage on Iron Monger so if they end up in a grapple he's not escaping or he's getting crushed

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

His suit is bullet proof and heat resistant, which is literally all of Iron Monger's weapons. Bob's has at least a 20x LS advantage on Iron Monger so if they end up in a grapple he's not escaping or he's getting crushed

I don’t remember bob tanking any bullets or fire in his suit plus I’m pretty sure tony and mongar can tank higher caliber stuff. His LS strength would allow him to probably throw him around but I don’t see how his LS would equal grip strength

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I don’t remember bob tanking any bullets or fire in his suit

This is shown when Edna is showing Helen the clothes

plus I’m pretty sure tony and mongar can tank higher caliber stuff

Well... What is Iron Monger's AP? I'm Talking about numbers

 

[JustANormalLemon]

His LS strength would allow him to probably throw him around but I don’t see how his LS would equal grip strength

"Lifting Strength measures the amount of mass they can lift, which is determined by the amount of force a character can produce"

Basically it would be lifting to 2 different sides

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

This is shown when Edna is showing Helen the clothes


Well... What is Iron Monger's AP? I'm Talking about numbers

Oh ok, tony still shrugged of AT fire and tank shells

well tony has been calced to be able to shrug off building lvl stuff in mk3
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...shot_by_a_tank_(MCU_calc)#KLOL506.27s_version

mans can generate 3 or 8 gigajouls per second(I forgot which suit it was)

 

[JustANormalLemon]

mans can generate 3 or 8 gigajouls per second(I forgot which suit it was)

MK3

well tony has been calced to be able to shrug off building lvl stuff in mk3
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...shot_by_a_tank_(MCU_calc)#KLOL506.27s_version

Yes yes, I'm trying to find the Omnidroid AP numbers to compare (The normal one of V10, not with piercing damage)

Oh ok, tony still shrugged of AT fire and tank shells

Tony's armor is not comparable to Iron Monger's

 

[CBslayeR]

Tony's armor is not comparable to Iron Monger's

also that calc seems extremely outdated, considering MK3 is 8-C on his profile

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I found this, but I can't say if this is about Bob's AP, LS or Dura

 

[CBslayeR]

Use the one thats on his profile, thats the accepted one it seems

 

[JustANormalLemon]

also that calc seems extremely outdated, considering MK3 is 8-C on his profile

in the profile of the iron man is also 8-C, Is it wrong too?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Use the one thats on his profile, thats the accepted one it seems

I can't find it, find it, but this one is also approved

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

MK3

Yes yes, I'm trying to find the Omnidroid AP numbers to compare (The normal one of V10, not with piercing damage)


Tony's armor is not comparable to Iron Monger's

Ok

Ok

I know, which is why I’m using tony for mongar to scale above

 

[CBslayeR]

I think the calc page is just outdated, that calc was made in like 2017

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I know, which is why I’m using tony for mongar to scale above

... what?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I think the calc page is just outdated, that calc was made in like 2017

Are you talking about Ominidroid or Iron man?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

... what?

I’m just scaling mongar above tony

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I’m just scaling mongar above tony

.... Why?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

.... Why?

Because tony has good feats

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I’m just scaling mongar above tony

Look at the Iron man calculation comments, there is a 2021 calculation there

KLOL506's version is up to Date​

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Because tony has good feats

But... that's not how it works...

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Might vote Bob tbh.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I still don't know Iron Monger's AP numbers, but if the Ominidroid Calculation applies to bob's Ap, LS and Dura I vote Mr.Incredible

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Might vote Bob tbh.

Who would guess? The owner of the calculus I'm referring to, can help me with this?

I found this, but I can't say if this is about Bob's AP, LS or Dura

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Who would guess? The owner of the calculus I'm referring to, can help me with this?

That calc I outdated. His AP and dura are 1.831 tons with his lifting strength being 9238397.45956 kg.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

While I don't have answers, I'll try to write down everything I collected:

• Iron Monger gattling guns are basically useless due to super clothing, as well as his explosives will be reduced in effect thanks to resistance to extreme temperatures (explosion impact would still do damage, I think)
• Mr. Incredible is apparently smarter than Iron Monger and a better strategist
• Does Iron Monger uses the flight jets in his fights?
• Mr. Incredible is also more experienced in hand-to-hand fights, dodge projectiles and fight machines

• That calc I outdated. His AP and dura are 1.831 tons with his lifting strength being 9238397.45956 kg.

  Ironmans can generate 3 or 8 gigajouls per second(I forgot which suit it was)

  Since that's why Iron Monger has this Dura... we finally have a way to compare this, thank you very much

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

But... that's not how it works...

Um yes it dose, mk3 is the kinda the whole reason as to why his rated as 8-c

 

[Coolboy6]

Might vote Bob tbh.

Counted
Btw 8 gigajoules is 1.91 tons of tnt if you search it up on google

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Look at the Iron man calculation comments, there is a 2021 calculation there

KLOL506's version is up to Date​

Um ok

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Um yes it dose, mk3 is the kinda the whole reason as to why his rated as 8-c

But not like that...

Their hardness is not comparable, Iron Monger Duta is comparable to MK3 AP and Iron Monger is hard and comparable to MK3 AP....

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Counted
Btw 8 gigajoules is 1.91 tons of tnt if you search it up on google

Tks

1.831 tons for Bob AP x 1.91 tons for Monger Dura

1.831 tons for Bob dura x 1.08078394 tons for Monger dura The gap is A lot bigger....

1.91 tons for Monger Dura x 9238397 tons for Bob LS.... wow

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

But not like that...

Their hardness is not comparable, Iron Monger Duta is comparable to MK3 AP and Iron Monger is hard and comparable to MK3 AP....

The Iron monger was built to be a stronger and tanker version of Tony’s suit(as shown by its design and feats) so I see no reason why it wouldn’t be just as tough if not tougher then mk3

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Tks

1.831 tons for Bob AP x 1.91 tons for Monger Dura

1.831 tons for Bob dura x 1.08078394 tons for Monger dura The gap is A lot bigger....

1.91 tons for Monger Dura x 9238397 tons for Bob LS.... wow

*KG the value in tons is 10183.58951.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

*KG the value in tons is 10183.58951.

I know it was in KG, I must have messed up something when converting... still "WOW"