MORØ Productions/Indie Cross Discussion Thread

[Eden_Warlock99]

Some somewhat important answers from the new Q&A:

Ask: What did Unreal do to that planet? Like, did he just destroy it or infuse it with portal energy or whatever it's called?
>Charlotte tells that cast what's happening :) I think that answers that :)

This is what Charlotte said btw,

"This realm is about to be smelted, Millions of Portals will start appearing. And if we're lucky, we'll be able to catch one before we fall to our demise."

Aside from that,
More info on the whole canonicity thing,

Ask: Just to make sure, NONE of the videos before episode 1 are canon right. that means tricky vs cuphead since he isn’t an indie game and nightmare sans vs frisk. many people keep thinking it’s canon.
>Some of their Logic is canon, however the events aren't
As much as it makes sense to a lot of people
it wouldn't be Ideal for newcomers to watch those videos before the Series, since it's already confusing as it is

Godot was strong,

Ask: was godot weak or is v1 strong? because in my opinion v1 is not that powerful if we're speaking realistically.
>Godot guy is strong!

V1 is ridiculous

And Frisk is probably not going to appear next episode (A.k.a Nightmare Spingtrap is stuck in 9-A for the foreseeable future),

Ask: Will V1 and frisk cross paths in the next episode
>I don't think Frisk will be in the 3rd EP at all tbh

 

[Flowerguy2]

Some somewhat important answers from the new Q&A:

Also from this:

Nightmare characters in general are also able to view the backstories of other characters which is pretty neat.

 

[EnderLord8]

Could maybe scale him to the other animatronics? That'd be at best a possibly tho.

Also should probably mention that I'm working on a Frisk WIP page rn

Frisk withstood a shock from the electric bars relatively well, it would be interesting to add resistance to electricity to the profile, adding Skilled Hand-to-Hand Combatant would also make sense considering how well Frisk did with just their fists.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Frisk withstood a shock from the electric bars relatively well, it would be interesting to add resistance to electricity to the profile

Think it runs into the same problem as Papyrus shrugging off the Electricity Maze shock, with us not really having a clear reference for how strong the shock actually is and nothing indicating that Frisk took it better than anyone else would have.

I'll definitely add Skilled Hand-to-Hand Combatant tho

 

[EnderLord8]

Think it runs into the same problem as Papyrus shrugging off the Electricity Maze shock, with us not really having a clear reference for how strong the shock actually is and nothing indicating that Frisk took it better than anyone else would have.

I'll definitely add Skilled Hand-to-Hand Combatant tho

Right when Frisk got shocked, a little smoke came out of them if that's worth anything and in the warning when Frisk pulled the lever there was a warning of the possibility of death

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Right when Frisk got shocked, a little smoke came out of them if that's worth anything and in the warning when Frisk pulled the lever there was a warning of the possibility of death

Yeah think that's good enough. Put it as a "Minor" resistance tho cause that appears to be what we give to characters that can survive electricity but are visibly affected by it.

 

[EnderLord8]

I wonder if Frisk's feat of throwing the real knife at Charlotte counts as superhuman accuracy, I don't think so since it seems like they were both only a few dozen meters away from each other, maybe reaching it with item throwing? Since in the same episode Frisk almost hit Madeline with the Burned Pan while they were running IDK

Another interesting thing is that Gregory from FNAF has Limited Light Manipulation and Status Effect Inducement with his flashlight and since Frisk used the flashlight to blind the Sun/Moon animatronic it would be worth mentioning in their abilities.

 

[EnderLord8]

Another thing I noticed is that Charlotte seems to have the ability to see powerlevel or something similar, since when she scanned Hollow Knight it came up with 2.1 million, Shovel Knight had a reading of 1.4 million and when she did it with Frisk it came up with 38 million.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I wonder if Frisk's feat of throwing the real knife at Charlotte counts as superhuman accuracy, I don't think so since it seems like they were both only a few dozen meters away from each other, maybe reaching it with item throwing? Since in the same episode Frisk almost hit Madeline with the Burned Pan while they were running IDK

Another interesting thing is that Gregory from FNAF has Limited Light Manipulation and Status Effect Inducement with his flashlight and since Frisk used the flashlight to blind the Sun/Moon animatronic it would be worth mentioning in their abilities.

Yeah, Superhuman Precision usually requires a bit more than that.
I do believe Cuphead would qualify for it due to this tho

As for Gregory, his Status Effect Inducement mainly comes from the Fazerblaster, which is supposedly able to cause seizures and semi-paralysis.
Frisk's flashlight is just a regular flashlight. Moon being incapacitated by it says more about Moon than anything else.
That said, a regular flashlight is still "Minor Light Manipulation,"

Another thing I noticed is that Charlotte seems to have the ability to see powerlevel or something similar, since when she scanned Hollow Knight it came up with 2.1 million, Shovel Knight had a reading of 1.4 million and when she did it with Frisk it came up with 38 million.

I originally thought the same thing, but turns out it's just the drones' internal temperature.

 

[Jerry59]

I do believe Cuphead would qualify for it due to this tho

This one is kind of insane ngl. Like the dude ricocheted it right at the bullseye with his eyes closed in a dart game and in actual combat, there's still someone who can dodge or block his shots (even including Madeline altho she was probably just lucky by moving sideways in a rapid bullet-type situation)

 

[EnderLord8]

Yeah, Superhuman Precision usually requires a bit more than that.
I do believe Cuphead would qualify for it due to this tho

As for Gregory, his Status Effect Inducement mainly comes from the Fazerblaster, which is supposedly able to cause seizures and semi-paralysis.
Frisk's flashlight is just a regular flashlight. Moon being incapacitated by it says more about Moon than anything else.
That said, a regular flashlight is still "Minor Light Manipulation,"

Oh I see... At least Cuphead gets the superhuman accuracy

I originally thought the same thing, but turns out it's just the drones' internal temperature.

Well that's a shame, I was really interested in the premise of Power Levels

 

[EnderLord8]

Frisk should probably have pain tolerance for being torn apart by Charlotte's rain of Royal Knives, being pierced in the arm with Vanny's knife and other bloody blows from Springtrap and the other animatronics and Nightmare Springtrap perhaps has something like Subjective Reality for bringing Nightmare Animatronics through the portals and having made that change in the structure of the battlefield

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Frisk should probably have pain tolerance for being torn apart by Charlotte's rain of Royal Knives, being pierced in the arm with Vanny's knife and other bloody blows from Springtrap

Ain't an ability anymore.

"Removal" of Pain Tolerance from profiles 2: Electric Boogaloo

We've seen a rise of a specific ability on multiple profiles called "Pain Tolerance," which is a thing that should have never existed and I'm pretty sure we never even classified as an actual ability or resistance ever since it has been first used on a profile (read: ever since 2016 holy shit...

vsbattles.com

 

[EnderLord8]

Ain't an ability anymore.

"Removal" of Pain Tolerance from profiles 2: Electric Boogaloo

We've seen a rise of a specific ability on multiple profiles called "Pain Tolerance," which is a thing that should have never existed and I'm pretty sure we never even classified as an actual ability or resistance ever since it has been first used on a profile (read: ever since 2016 holy shit...

vsbattles.com

Geez, I think that since this is the case Garou's pain tolerance should be removed, bro.

Anyway, Frisk at various moments in ep 1 and 2 does a blitz of some level, I think using the average reaction speed to make some calculations based on that would be interesting...

 

[EnderLord8]

I did some very rudimentary calculations of Frisk's blitz movements using 0.2s (perception speed of an average human) and got several subsonic values, if I have time I will do a proper calculation

• Frisk Blitz Hollow Knight = 75m/s
• Frisk punch Springtrap = 10m/s
• Frisk Blitz Springtrap = 100m/s
• Frisk camera run = 12.5m/s~25m/s
• Frisk blitz Nightmare Spring = 75m/s

The values may be inflated or lower than the real value, it will depend more on the distance measurement.

 

[Jerry59]

"Removal" of Pain Tolerance from profiles 2: Electric Boogaloo

We've seen a rise of a specific ability on multiple profiles called "Pain Tolerance," which is a thing that should have never existed and I'm pretty sure we never even classified as an actual ability or resistance ever since it has been first used on a profile (read: ever since 2016 holy shit...

vsbattles.com

If only I knew this existed. Thanks Eden, now I gotta go scrub that from nearly all of ultrakill pfps .

 

[EnderLord8]

Which characters do you hope to appear in future episodes?

 

[LittleGuy99]

Which characters do you hope to appear in future episodes?

Peppino pizza tower

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Hat Kid would be neat.

 

[EnderLord8]

Peppino pizza tower

Hmm, it would be fun to have him in the animation

Hat Kid would be neat.

Yes, Hat Kid is a fantastic choice, although I don't know her that well, I found out she's from an indie game through my interaction with the Indie Cross fanbase.


I personally can think of several characters I would like to see appear:
Omori/Sunny, Madotsuki, Steve (Minecraft), Slugcat and perhaps a reference to fear and hunger (Unlikely)

 

[LittleGuy99]

What are all the base abilities that come in a Nightmare form?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

What are all the base abilities that come in a Nightmare form?

Really just Clairvoyance/Cosmic Awareness(?) that lets them know other character's backstories.

All the Nightmare forms we've seen also have Eye Beams, even when their respective verse has nothing akin to it, but could be a coincidence Ig

 

[EnderLord8]

Really just Clairvoyance/Cosmic Awareness(?) that lets them know other character's backstories.

All the Nightmare forms we've seen also have Eye Beams, even when their respective verse has nothing akin to it, but could be a coincidence Ig

Another thing that Nightmares also seem to have is a form of locomotion through portals/teleportation (Although I don't remember seeing Nightmare Cuphead have something like that)

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Although I don't remember seeing Nightmare Cuphead have something like that

Did in the Part 3 of the Bendy vs Sans trilogy

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

New QnA, PnA stuff:

Ask: Two questions:
One, what do these mean?
Two, Is there anything else midusara can do besides turn people to gold?
>They all have similar abilities, Midu just prefers to end things quick!

none of the others can do petrification tho!

Ask: Was the Godot rogue the only one that could revive the other ones or can they all do that?
>They all can do that!

More info on Ep3,

Ask: How long are you anticipating the next episode to be?
>Hopefully 20 minutes or so this time

won't be as big as 2, we might leave some characters in the meantime and save their Story till 4

Ask: If Frisk is absent, what other characters will also be absent in episode 3? (Besides Knight and Beheaded)

And will we have temporary replacements, like Sans for Undertale, Hornet for Hollow Knight, or the Collector for Dead Cells?
>I think half of the cast won't make an appearance next episode, so that the pacing won't be terrible

Also rip all the Chara-Frisk symbolism theories

 

[Jerry59]

none of the others can do petrification tho!

Damn, was half-expecting Unreal to be able to bust out that petrifying light-

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Looking into it, should Frisk also get resistance to Corruption?

They went into the giant puff of the infection coming from the creature that was supposed to contain it in its entirety, while being within the most infected area in Hollownest, and were just completely unaffected by it. Plus, we do know that the Indie Cross infection is well, infective, going by what Charlotte said.

Thereby safeguarding their kingdom from the insidious threat of Infection.

 

[Flowerguy2]

Looking into it, should Frisk also get resistance to Corruption?

They went into the giant puff of the infection coming from the creature that was supposed to contain it in its entirety, while being within the most infected area in Hollownest, and were just completely unaffected by it. Plus, we do know that the Indie Cross infection is well, infective, going by what Charlotte said.

Yeah, this seems good.

The Knight should also get it too (obviously) if they were ever to get a profile.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Frisk's page is basically finished, let me know if I’ve missed anything.

Think I'll get to making a page for either Shovel Knight or the Knight "Ghost" next, IF no one else is already planning to tackle them, of course.

 

[Jerry59]

Frisk's page is basically finished, let me know if I’ve missed anything.

It looks really good. Meanwhile I’m struggling to avoid repeating words while doing Drifter pfp since his whole kit mostly revolves around mobility-

I think I'm doing well on my Cuphead rework tho.

 

[Jerry59]

Do you guys think Nightmare Game Master's physical LS scales to his own telekinesis? Drifter was able to hold GM's plate for a bit before it broke free and it was shown that they could push each other. (for Class M Drifter sake)

 

[LittleGuy99]

This Indie Cross wiki is very good

 

[LittleGuy99]

More Indie Cross facts incoming!

 

[TheLunyFan]

niko profile when

 

[LittleGuy99]

niko profile when

Charlotte profile when

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

More Indie Cross facts incoming!

Already a pretty big one,

Ask: Why didn't Springtrap take Frisk's items in the final battle like he did at the beginning when he transformed?
>The more he loses his powers
the more he loses his speed too

and he wasted a LOT just by summoning the animatronics in the beginning

This does explain why Frisk was practically blitzing him throughout their second battle, quite a blow to their skill tho

 

[LittleGuy99]

Already a pretty big one,

This does explain why Frisk was practically blitzing him throughout their second battle, quite a blow to their skill tho

We now know that opening portals takes a lot of energy.
Although Springtrap also opened too many portals lol.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

 

[LittleGuy99]

 

[Flowerguy2]

Recent Moro's QNA post is made and theres some few interesting things from it:

Ask: Who is the strongest rogue?

Moro: Whoever has a better Max temp

Ask: How did Grillby's get into the city? (The portals aren't that big)

Moro: Portals differ in size If it's controlled by someone!

Ask: Do you think Niko's worried or at least suspicious about their "guide" not responding? Considering we don't see much of their suspicion of their non-present guide/player in episode 2

Moro: There's some scenes in the episode where Niko is looking at the camera directly for a split second, so they're checking every now an then
The difference between the game and the series, is that they won't have to be alone when the player is away