MORØ Productions/Indie Cross Discussion Thread

[Flowerguy2]

Yea a discussion thread for this guy and the mod too since why not?

The big three

 

[CathyEpic]

Cool. I'll probably try to remake Cuphead's profile tomorrow.

 

[Flowerguy2]

The Indie Cross series has a couple of feats that needed to be calced, such as:

• AP/Durability: Bendy threw Boyfriend through the wall, but little old Bendy didn't want to jump through so he just breaks through it (BF, Bendy, Sans, and Cuphead scales to this)
• Durability: Cuphead surviving a train ramming into him at high speed (Cuphead, Choo-Choo Charles and Shovel Knight scales to this)
• AP/Durability: Badeline slash apart a stone wall that completely crushed Frisk, and Frisk was later shown to be unharmed (Badeline and Frisk scales to this)
• LS: Bendy lifting and throwing a large rock (Bendy and Sans scales to this)
• AP: Both Nightmare Bendy and Nightmare Sans broke part of the moon (The Nightmare Modes scales to this)
• AP: The Drone slicing a hill in half (The Drones and the Commander scales to this, likely/possibly Shovel Knight, Frisk and Cuphead too)

 

[CathyEpic]

Cuphead (Indie Cross Animated Series)

Cuphead's Entry in The Knight's Journal Cuphead is one of the main protagonists in the Indie Cross Animated Series. He is a short, anthropomorphic porcelain cup who stumbles upon portals and finds himself traveling through multiple different worlds. Despite being short-tempered and eccentric...

fcoc-vs-battles.fandom.com

New Cuphead profile is up. Though, it's not the best thing in the world so feel free to improve it.

 

[Diamond_Drone]

I want to mention that surviving big falls like this one should be around 87 Kilojoules (62kg person falling at terminal velocity) to 98 Kilojoules (70kg person falling at terminal velocity)

 

[CathyEpic]

I want to mention that surviving big falls like this one should be around 87 Kilojoules (62kg person falling at terminal velocity) to 98 Kilojoules (70kg person falling at terminal velocity)

We don't know how big the fall was. That's why Cuphead is baseline 9-B.

 

[Diamond_Drone]

We don't know how big the fall was. That's why Cuphead is baseline 9-B.

You could know how big the fall was based on how long the character fell. The Common Feat calculated the time to reach max velocity to be 5.4 seconds and used that to calculate the required distance.

Other examples include this old calc for Overwatch that was previously accepted before a remake came out and got accepted with the exact same method.

Another one that's closer to what we're talking about is my recently accepted durability calc that calculated the distance and the energy of the fall based purely of how long the character fell.

 

[CathyEpic]

You could know how big the fall was based on how long the character fell. The Common Feat calculated the time to reach max velocity to be 5.4 seconds and used that to calculate the required distance.

Other examples include this old calc for Overwatch that was previously accepted before a remake came out and got accepted with the exact same method.

Another one that's closer to what we're talking about is my recently accepted durability calc that calculated the distance and the energy of the fall based purely of how long the character fell.

That would be good if it weren't for the fact we don't see the whole fall, and Cuphead's toon shenanigans.

 

[Deidalius]

I love that channel

Is it a FNF mod?

 

[Diamond_Drone]

That would be good if it weren't for the fact we don't see the whole fall

Doesn't matter as the duration of the scene (with Shovel Knight following and the main Antagonist giving orders) would put the fall at more than 5 seconds, allowing it to qualify for the feat.

and Cuphead's toon shenanigans.

This seems to work more in my favor, as it didn't help Cuphead at all and made him fall esssentially instantly instead of Shovel Knight's more natural fall.

 

[CathyEpic]

Doesn't matter as the duration of the scene (with Shovel Knight following and the main Antagonist giving orders) would put the fall at more than 5 seconds, allowing it to qualify for the feat.

This seems to work more in my favor, as it didn't help Cuphead at all and made him fall esssentially instantly instead of Shovel Knight's more natural fall.

Huh. Then which calc would they scale to?

 

[Diamond_Drone]

Just keep it simple for now and use the the common feat (98 kJ)

 

[CathyEpic]

LS: Bendy lifting and throwing a large rock (Bendy and Sans scales to this)

I calced this and got Class 100 (plus Small Building Level support feat for NM Sans/Bendy)

 

[CathyEpic]

AP: Both Nightmare Bendy and Nightmare Sans broke part of the moon (The Nightmare Modes scales to this)

Can't we just use baseline 5-C for this?

Durability: Cuphead surviving a train ramming into him at high speed (Cuphead, Choo-Choo Charles and Shovel Knight scales to this)

There's a calc for that in references for common feats

 

[Flowerguy2]

this has been a dead thread since then but uh

NEW EPISODE OF INDIE CROSS IS OUUUUTTTTTTT YEAAA-

There's a lot of feats in this so probably going to calced some of them.

 

[Flowerguy2]

Finally calced the feats, the verse are now currently caps at 9-A to 8-C with exception of the Rogue Centipede and likely few of the Rogues (The Rogue in the first episode did this and this, don't know it would be possible to calced)

 

[O0DSF0o]

So uh, are we bothering with FNF Indie Cross at all or are we just keeping to animated series?

 

[O0DSF0o]

EPISODE 2 IS PEAK CINEMA

 

[O0DSF0o]

I am willing to make pages for this btw

 

[Flowerguy2]

So uh, are we bothering with FNF Indie Cross at all or are we just keeping to animated series?

I mean
if you want to.
sorta not interested in doing the FNF Indie Cross than compared to the Animated Series so

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Frisk's Wall Busts probably need to be calced, since they really only have scaling to the main cast with the Real Knife.

 

[Flowerguy2]

A few new AP feats and the Speed feats are now added to the calculation's blog with some of the main cast scaling to Subsonic to Supersonic in terms of speed and managed to touch on this feat, possible 8-A to 7-C scaling for the Rogues.

 

[Flowerguy2]

Check some of QNA posts Moro did on his X account and there's a few interesting information found:

Spoiler: X's shiz

• Frisk is confirmed to have been taken before the moment they killed Sans
• The Monsters shown in Grillby's are from another timeline
• Kris is unlikely going to appeared in the series
• The Rogues ("Charlotte, Game Master, Unithor and etc.") are all organic inside of their shell
• Third episode will be not as long as Ep. 2, but not as short as Ep. 1 (A 20-30 long episode is likely)
• Charlotte, the first Rogue shown in Ep. 1, can control the Drones that fought some of the main cast in the first EP.
• V1 will only fight the Rogues shown in the post-credit scene in EP. 3
• Any video that isn't called "INDIE CROSS Series" aren't canon unless it's mentioned in an Episode
• Either 4 or 6 episodes will be made for the series
• All the Rogue Drones are all equal in strength, unknown if this includes the giant centipede Rogue (Probably the most important scaling to this, seeing how some of the cast can fought against them)
• All the cast have a "Smash Bros-like balance" in terms of powerscaling between each other
• Moro described the Nightmare's mode basically "character getting buffed and having the ability to do any possible feat from their respective game"

Also a reference sheet of the Drones is shown on Moro's discord server.

 

[StarShooter80]

This has existed for almost 2 years already? I thought this was new lol

 

[Flowerguy2]

This has existed for almost 2 years already? I thought this was new lol

thread was sorta dead for a long ass time until the new EP of Indie Cross revived it-

 

[O0DSF0o]

So I see that Base Springtrap is put at Unknown AP in the WIP page, I think he should be Human Level. He's shown to have that fleshy body still inside of him and it's covered by metal or whatever material Springtrap is made of.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Could maybe scale him to the other animatronics? That'd be at best a possibly tho.

Also should probably mention that I'm working on a Frisk WIP page rn

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

In regards to scaling tho, I don't think Charlotte is considered one of the Rogues, so GameMaster scaling to her is probably bunk.
She also easily beat the Real Knife+Locket combo Frisk who's already on a whole other echelon of power compared to the rest of the cast.
(The whole Ep1 cast needs to jump that Frisk for them to lose lol)

 

[Flowerguy2]

In regards to scaling to the scaling tho, I don't think Charlotte is considered one of the Rogues, so I don't think we can scale GameMaster to her.

I think in Moro's X account has Moro confirming Charlotte to be a rogue somewhere? Dunno...

Also, the giant centipede monster is named "Unreal" and is confirmed to be a Rogue, and seeing how it did this feat and Moro confirming them to be equal in strength... possible Tier 6 to Tier 5 scaling for the Rogues?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

I think there's somewhere in Moro's X account confirmed Charlotte to be a rogue somewhere? Dunno...

Also, the giant centipede monster is named "Unreal" and is confirmed to be a Rogue, and seeing how it did this feat and Moro confirming them to be equal in strength... possible Tier 6 to Tier 5 scaling for the Rogues?

Yeah, I could see that being listed as a possibly, for now at least, maybe that'll change when we see how V1 fares against it.
honestly kind of funny how much that Tier 5 feat sticks out in comparison to the dozen or so 9-A/8-C ones lol

 

[EnderLord8]

**** Yeah, the ep 2 is fire!!!

Following

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Also going by the canonicity statement, I think we can take Cuphead VS Choo Choo Charles as being canon.

Do you know how Dragonball Z had those movies that aren't canon to the main series? basically any video that isn't called "INDIE CROSS Series" isn't canon unless it's mentioned in an Episode

Doesn't change much, maybe Choo Choo Charles blowing up the train in 4 hits could nett some good results? It does also give us a good idea of Cuphead's Travel Speed.

 

[EnderLord8]

Also going by the canonicity statement, I think we can take Cuphead VS Choo Choo Charles as being canon.

Doesn't change much, maybe Choo Choo Charles blowing up the train in 4 hits could nett some good results? It does also give us a good idea of Cuphead's Travel Speed.

Well, if this is considered canonical, it could be considered a feat of speed for Cuphead who was able to escape relatively well from Charlie who was able to follow a train.

 

[LittleGuy99]

this has been a dead thread since then but uh

NEW EPISODE OF INDIE CROSS IS OUUUUTTTTTTT YEAAA-

There's a lot of feats in this so probably going to calced some of them.

Peak cinema, following

 

[EnderLord8]

Well, if this is considered canonical, it could be considered a feat of speed for Cuphead who was able to escape relatively well from Charlie who was able to follow a train.

In this case it seems that if we consider Cuphead's locomotion speed feat it would be between superhuman and supersonic (22.22m/s to 44.44m/s)

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

In this case it seems that if we consider Cuphead's locomotion speed feat it would be between superhuman and supersonic (22.22m/s to 44.44m/s)

Subsonic. But yeah.
Another good Travel Speed feat I found was Frisk just vanishing from view within the span of a camera flicker and crossing the whole building to get in the Security room.

Also if Monty lifting this billboard gets something above Class 1, it should scale to Nightmare Springtrap, since he can "realize any doable feat from [his] respective realm."

 

[EnderLord8]

Subsonic.

oops I wrote it wrong

Also if Monty lifting this billboard gets something above Class 1, it should scale to Nightmare Springtrap, since he can "realize any doable feat from [his] respective realm."

Frisk should scale it since they are the ones who pulled the giant sign, not to mention that Frisk is constantly depicted above the Animatronics fodder and even having used the Wire Animatronic like a rope to knock down the giant Animatronic, it might be worth considering calculating these feats as well

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Frisk should scale it since they are the ones who pulled the giant sign

Ehh, Frisk didn't pull it as much as they destroyed the supports holding it and let gravity do the work.

 

[Jerry59]

Currently trying to make Drifter's profile.

May I ask if his travel speed should scale to Game Master's or will it just stay as combat speed?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

May I ask if his travel speed should scale to Game Master's or will it just stay as combat speed?

Don't think Drifter would have a Travel/Combat Speed separation since the distance he covers here or here is more than enough for it to also count as travel speed (I think)