Mori Jins new bench press PB (stats update)

[DavidTPPM]

Mori is much thiccer than we give him credit for so I'm here to fix that.

Lifting strength:​

By sheer nature of having HDE and not being immobile + we see him lift and move spacetimes like it's nothing. This should grant him immeasurable LS. Pretty simple stuff.

Speed:​

Mori blatantly moves beyond linear time. He exists outside of the overlapping spacetime continuum and can move to anywhere and anywhen, which we see displayed by him physically moving to a random point on earth more than 3 weeks in the past by just floating towards it. This is a pretty obvious case of immeasurable speed. It's also already kidna accepted, it's just listed under omnipresence without specifying his actual speed.

Omnipresent (Attaining a state of Nirvana allows Mori to exist at any point of time within the universe,

So I suggest we change his Omnipresence to Immeasurable speed.

I was going to add more stuff but my phone decided to delete my entire sandbox for this thread and I'm too lazy to rewrite it all (don't ask what else is missing because I genuinely forgor ) .

Agrees(): LephyrTheRevanchist, Planck69, Elizhaa, LordGriffin1000 (Agrees with LS, no comment on speed)
Disagrees():

 

[Yeolban]

Mori is much thiccer than we give him credit for

truth! I agree (I didn't read the other stuff)

 

[DavidTPPM]

truth! I agree (I didn't read the other stuff)

Facts fr fr (you should read the other stuff tho )

 

[Yeolban]

Facts fr fr (you should read the other stuff tho )

giant yeoui

 

[azontr]

giant yeoui

Talk to em'

 

[TheGreatBanana]

I disagree because Mujin park told me to disagree, and who am I to go against his word?

 

[karo_senpaii]

Neutral on immeasurable speed. LS is fine

 

[M2u12]

Agrees

 

[Success0906]

giant yeoui

Whaaaa?

 

[Yeolban]

Whaaaa?

look at the tags of this crt

 

[DavidTPPM]

I see I've doomed myself with the tags

 

[Success0906]

I see I've doomed myself with the tags

Your CRT isn't going to pass for another two months, boi. Believe it!

 

[M2u12]

I see I've doomed myself with the tags

You can click here to add more tags.

 

[DavidTPPM]

You can click here to add more tags.

Holy shit you're the goat, thanks.
I always thought only staff could add tags

 

[M2u12]

look like i'm a hero that save a day man, am proud of myself and "Giant Yeoui " will always be etched in my heart

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Mori is much thiccer than we give him credit for so I'm here to fix that.

Lifting strength:​

By sheer nature of having HDE and not being immobile + we see him lift and move spacetimes like it's nothing. This should grant him immeasurable LS. Pretty simple stuff.

Agreed

Speed:​

Mori blatantly moves beyond linear time. He exists outside of the overlapping spacetime continuum and can move to anywhere and anywhen, which we see displayed by him physically moving to a random point on earth more than 3 weeks in the past by just floating towards it. This is a pretty obvious case of immeasurable speed. It's also already kidna accepted, it's just listed under omnipresence without specifying his actual speed.

If he's omnipresent, he can do this without being immeasurable by default.

That being said, since he can literally see all separate points in time and enter whichever he likes whenever he likes, I suppose Immeasurable is warranted.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

@DarkDragonMedeus @Elizhaa @Planck69 @Propellus @AbaddonTheDisappointment your help here would be appreciated.

 

[DavidTPPM]

If he's omnipresent, he can do this without being immeasurable by default.

Yeah his omnipresence is kidna weird. It's more like his power is omnipresent while his spirit is chilling in one place.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

It's more like his power is omnipresent while his spirit is chilling in one place.

That's not omnipresence, that would just be range

 

[DavidTPPM]

That's not omnipresence, that would just be range

(tbh idek who made it omnipresence, I never personally looked into it)
Anyway that's a topic for another thread

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

(tbh idek who made it omnipresence, I never personally looked into it)
Anyway that's a topic for another thread

It can be handled right here, it's pretty simple.

 

[azontr]

(tbh idek who made it omnipresence, I never personally looked into it)

It was listed as omnipresence years ago in the original threads to upgrade Mori to tier 2, which me and @Maitreya12 handled, mostly.

 

[DavidTPPM]

It can be handled right here, it's pretty simple.

Alright, I added it.
What do you think about the changes now?

 

[DavidTPPM]

It was listed as omnipresence years ago in the original threads to upgrade Mori to tier 2, which me and @Maitreya12 handled, mostly.

Hmm alrighty then, do you have anything against it being swapped for immeasurable speed?

 

[azontr]

Not really. Honestly would've listed it as immeasurable in the original threads, but standards were all over the place back then.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Alright, I added it.
What do you think about the changes now?

I already agreed with it.

 

[M2u12]

For me, having both Omnipresence and Immeasurable Speed together isn't an issue because, in the end, he still exists within every point of time.

He's surrounded by a golden Tablet, which should symbolically suggest that he can observe the past, present, and future in every point of time And that means that he also exists within every point of time.

Which is still Omnipresence as I understand it.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

For me, having both Omnipresence and Immeasurable Speed together isn't an issue because, in the end, he still exists within every point of time.

He's surrounded by a golden Tablet, which should symbolically suggest that he can observe the past, present, and future in every point of time And that means that he also exists within every point of time.

Which is still Omnipresence as I understand it.

If he's omnipresent, he doesn't need to travel at all to those points in time. He's already there, and that nulls immeasurable because he's not traveling through time... Because he's already there.

 

[M2u12]

If he's omnipresent, he doesn't need to travel at all to those points in time. He's already there, and that nulls immeasurable because he's not traveling through time... Because he's already there.

You know what that makes sense.

 

[M2u12]

so Mori "Omnipresent" is probably a "Pseudo Omnipresent" then lol.

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

I don't see physical speed here, I only see two scans that say the same thing, the second scan doesn't say that he can move anywhere at any time, it just says that he can oversee creation and is free of the laws, no physical movement that moves through time, in the last scan he only tells about an incident, but how do we know that he got there with his speed and not a dimensional travel or time travel?

I would like to know more context of the last scan if possible, in the meantime this doesn't seem to be speed.

 

[Shmooply]

erm ahktually it's PR not PB

 

[DavidTPPM]

I would like to know more context of the last scan if possible, in the meantime this doesn't seem to be speed.

Let me explain in more detail.
The tablets surrounding Mori are the overlapping spacetime of the verse as stated by Xuanzang.
We see how this works when Mori flies towards a random tablet, picks it up, and finds out that it's a point on earth 3+ weeks ago.

Basically, Mori is dimensionaly as large as the spacetime continuum and can move across it same way you could move from one side of your room to another

 

[Megaraptor149]

If Omnipresence get removed, he would loss Abstract Existence (Type 1). As its benefit from Omnipresence.

 

[Woomica]

Mori is much thiccer than we give him credit for so I'm here to fix that.

Lifting strength:​

By sheer nature of having HDE and not being immobile + we see him lift and move spacetimes like it's nothing. This should grant him immeasurable LS. Pretty simple stuff.

Speed:​

Mori blatantly moves beyond linear time. He exists outside of the overlapping spacetime continuum and can move to anywhere and anywhen, which we see displayed by him physically moving to a random point on earth more than 3 weeks in the past by just floating towards it. This is a pretty obvious case of immeasurable speed. It's also already kidna accepted, it's just listed under omnipresence without specifying his actual speed.

So I suggest we change his Omnipresence to Immeasurable speed.

I was going to add more stuff but my phone decided to delete my entire sandbox for this thread and I'm too lazy to rewrite it all (don't ask what else is missing because I genuinely forgor ) .

Agrees(): LephyrTheRevanchist
Disagrees():

4D bench press lets goo (Agree)

 

[DavidTPPM]

If Omnipresence get removed, he would loss Abstract Existence (Type 1). As its benefit from Omnipresence.

No not really. His AE is based on him "becoming the world" not on his omnipresence throughout the timeline.

 

[Megaraptor149]

No not really. His AE is based on him "becoming the world" not on his omnipresence throughout the timeline.

Yeah, justification must be changed lol. Actually before his profile totally revised, its using "becoming the world" for AE1.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Yeah, justification must be changed lol. Actually before his profile totally revised, its using "becoming the world" for AE1.

Sure, I'll fix it up when the CRT gets approved

 

[Planck69]

The updated OP seems fine.

 

[Elizhaa]

The proposals look fine