More Arifureta

[Expectro2000xxx]

Well, time to more.

Tiers​

Meeres calc​

This calc was accepted so based in this and everything talked in the general thread now the characters of Platinum Apostles level will scale to Low 6-B (3.44 teratons), with some characters upscaling to 6-B.

Low 6-B Characters:

• Platinum Apostles: Since the divine spirits were said to be as strong as the apostles this scale directly to them.
• Apostle Fried: Since after become a apostle he was comparable to them, possibly was even stronger considering the amount of respect the platinum apostles directed to him.
• End of Main Story Hajime: His base scale to the apostles.
• End of Main Story Tio: Her base scale directly to base Hajime and apostle Fried.
• End of Main Story Kaori: Her base scale to base Hajime and the rest of wives.
• End of Main Story Shia: Her base and mid levels of Body Strengthening scale directly to the platinum apostles since she fought seven of them, similarly she scale to base Hajime and the wives.
• After-Stories Shia: Her base and Level V scale directly to the divine spirits.
• Mother: Since she was stated to be similar to the "pseudo limit break" Apostles, which probably refer to their platinum state.
• After Stories Kouki: Since he was able to fight directly with Mother even despite be fatigued and severly weakened. This also would mean that the weakened state of Hajime was around the base level of Shia, which can have some sense.

6-B Characters:

• Limit Break and Overload Hajime: With Limit Break he is 10.32 teratons and with Overload 17.2 teratons. Schlagen is also 5-6x stronger than Donner, which mean that it would be something like 17.2-20.64 teratons in base, with Overload reaching 86-103.2 teratons) and by this point he upgraded it making the Schlagen AA, the Pile Bunker is even stronger than Schlagen and the upgraded version even more so, similarly Hyperion and Pulse Hyperion are even stronger than that, so they in general the weapons of Hajime reach High 6-B with Overload. Ehito will scale to High 6-B since even after use all his weapons at the same time with Overload Hajime couldn't do much to him (Ehito was actually stomping hard)
• End of Main Story Tio: With limiter Limiter Removal she become 10.32 teratons and Dragon God Manifestation is absurdly above that.
• End of Main Story Kaori: With limiter Limiter Removal she become 10.32 teratons (actually since she have listed Limit Break do to the Apostle body she need listed in this key and in the rest another 3x amp, so in this key with Limiter Removal enhancing her base stats and they using Limit Break above that she would be 30.96 teratons).
• End of Main Story Shia: With high levels of Body Strengthening she utterly stomped the platinum apostles and quite literally turned then in mincemeat.
• After-Stories Shia: Since Level V punch already did good damage to the divine spirits and after a bit her reactive evolution made her stomp Udar I think that this tier is correct.
• After Stories Kouki: Since in the fight with Mother he was severely weakened a lot his base probably scale to this tier, with his Limit Break and Overload states in this tier even if his base don't upscale to 6-B.
• With Aularodde Kouki: Aularodde buffed significantly Kouki, so in this state he would be directly 6-B.
• Apostle Fried: Since the platinum apostles respected him a lot is quite possible he upscale to 6-B. Aditionally while they send five platinum apostles to fight Shia they only send him to fight Tio, which show the confidance in his strength, and in the end he indeed gave problems to base Tio, making her use the Dragon God Manifestation.

End results:

• Platinum Apostles:Low 6-B
• Apostle Fried: At least Low 6-B, likely 6-B.
• End of Main Story Hajime:Low 6-B, 6-B with Limit Break, Overload, and several weapons, High 6-B with weapons like Schlagen, Pile Bunker, Hyperion and others when strengthened with Overload.
• Ehitorujue:High 6-B
• End of Main Story Tio:Low 6-B, 6-B with Limiter Removal and Dragon God Manifestation.
• End of Main Story Kaori:Low 6-B, 6-B with Limiter Removal and Limit Break.
• End of Main Story Shia:Varies, Low 6-B to 6-B with Body Strengthening.
• After-Stories Shia:Varies, Low 6-B to 6-B with Body Strengthening Level V, up to 5-C with Body Strengthening Level IX, X, and XI
• Mother: At least 7-B, possibly Low 6-B
• After Stories Kouki: At least 7-B, possibly Low 6-B to 6-B

Hajime Enhanced Weapons​

As discussed in the general thread the weapons of Hajime are enhanced by his magic power (not only with Lightning Field but his magic power in general), which mean that with Limit Break and Overload they also get amped. Currently the keys don't reflect that so they need to be changed a bit. I will add the AP values will be in red to make easier to know his strength in each point:

Post-Evolution key: City level (Comparable to Apostles of God [Which currently scale massively above 12 Megatons]. Can get 3x stronger with Limit Break as it multiplies his strength, making him three stronger [36 Megatons], City level+ with Overload, Schlagen and Pile Bunker (5x stronger with Overload [60 Megatons]. Schlagen is 5-6x stronger than Donner [60-72 Megatons]. His Pile Bunker is even stronger than Schalgen), Mountain level with Schlagen and Pile Bunker strengthened with Limit Break and Overload (Limit Break make Schlagen and Pile Bunker 3x stronger [180-216 Megatons], while Overload make them 5x stronger [300-360 Megatons]), Can ignore conventional durability with various attacks

Post-Schnee key: City level (Superior to before, can fight Apostles of God without even using Limit Break [Which mean he currently scale massively above 36 Megatons]), Mountain level with Limit Break, Overload, Schlagen, and Pile Bunker (3x stronger with Limit Break [108 Megatons]. 5x stronger with Overload [180 Megatons]. Schlagen is 5-6x stronger than Donner [180-216 Megatons]. His Pile Bunker is even stronger than Schlagen), Mountain level+ up to Large Mountain level with Schlagen and Pile Bunker strengthened with Limit Break and Overload (Limit Break make Schlagen and Pile Bunker 3x stronger [540-648 Megatons], while Overload make them 5x stronger [900-1080 Megatons]), Can ignore conventional durability with various attacks

This don't affect any other character since in this point pretty much everyone is completely ****** if he hit with Schlagen and Pile Bunker.

After-Stories key: Moon level (His Meteor Impact is able to shake the entire world, causing the ground to turn inside out, and ejecting sand and earth into the sky. Frequently trains with Yue and Shea, both of which can harm Lutria. Soare's light of judgement was stated to be on the same level as Hajime's Hyperion[55], which was later proven when Hajime used his Hyperion to counter it. Soare's light of judgement forced Shea at Level X to avoid it using teleportation[55]. Can get 3x stronger with Limit Break, 5x stronger with Overload), Small Planet level with weapons like Schlagen, Pile Bunker and such strengthened with Limit Break and Overload (Schlagen is 5-6x stronger than Donner [168.5-202.2 Exatons] and Limit Break strengthen it 3x [505.5-606.6 Exatons] while Overload strengthen it 5x [842.5-1011 Exatons]. His Pile Bunker and other weapons are even stronger than Schalgen), Can ignore conventional durability with various attacks

While in the previous keys no character could face his big weapons while they were strengthened with Limit Break and Overload, in this key we know that the only characters truly at the level of Hajime are his wives (Lutria isn't really at their level since Shia defeated her even when fighting without killing intent and trying to not hurt her) and they fight seriously between them (an example is the battle in the "virtual world" where no damage would be done to the rets of the world so they went with all), so they more or less should scale to this to some extent, though since there don't are enough on-screen fights between them we don't know how they face him and his weapons when in Limit Break and Overload, so their tier probably shouldn't be touched, at most maybe they can get a possibly higher? Don't know, will like the opinions about this point.

Tio and Kaori Amps​

This is really simple, just add the mention of Limiter Removal to Tio AP section and Limit Break to Kaori

Yue Physical Tier Unknown​

Again this was discussed in the general discussion and basically Yue physical tier is weird, we know she is above normal humans since she don't become instantly mincemeant when hurt by any other character or monster, futhermore we recently had the statement that magic power strengthen the physical ability and the more magic power the more naturally strong you are (the quote was showed in the previous crt, when talking about the adaptation of the students), however despite this Yue was always treated as physically useless and the amount of damage she can receive from foes below her level is high, is because of this that her keys should be changed to something like this:

Pre-Schnee: Unknown physically, City level with magic (Comparable to Hajime), higher with Limiter Removal (Far stronger than before), Can ignore durability with various attacks

Post-Schnee: Unknown physically, City level with magic (Comparable to Hajime who is capable of taking on Apostles without using limit break), City level+ with Limiter Removal (Far stronger than before), Can ignore durability with various attacks

After-Stories: Unknown physically, Moon level with magic and physical strengthening (Hajime's combat oriented wives regularly train together, Yue has stated she could handle Shia Haulia at her max, and was able to deal damage to Lutria with a punch), Can ignore durability with various attacks

As we know after be possessed by Ehito she become able to do everything that him could do to an even higher extent, so that's why she is able to do physical combat in this key, though as showed in her fight against the army of dragon gods apparitions and high-god level onis if she can't even be bothered to physically face them then even opponents of their level can hurt her, do to this reason she remain physically as Unknow in this key but with the mention that she can turn physically 5-C if she want.

Ryutarou and Suzu After-Stories Key​

This is really simple, in the After-Stories they don't show much, but they still appear and just do to the resistances they get because the Soul Shell is probably worth a new key. The stats will be basically stronger than before and in the power section they get the ones from Soul Shel.

Abilities​

Law Manipulation and Power Nullification to Yue and probably even Hajime:

「This is……could it be this place is……」

‘Could it be I’m inside that game device that is in the middle of development?’ Kaori reached that fact. The present condition where she suddenly arrived in an unfamiliar world, the young man that was spewing out stereotyped line, and also the display that appeared midair, they were all completely like an RPG world. Kaori’s appearance must be also the setting where she likely started as a villager girl in the beginning. Chapter 251

「Uuh, my body is heavy……」

Although it was inside the game, in the first place the physical ability of Kaori who had obtained the flesh body of god apostle was in foul play level. Originally she was able to easily display a running in the level that would smash the heart of an Olympic sprinter into pieces.

But, the current Kaori could only display a speed that was at the level of that Olympic sprinter. She was told that this was a game for training use, so perhaps it was possible that a limitation was set up for the initial configuration. Chapter 251

Yue pointed at her status screen, so Kaori got close to Yue’s shoulder and peered in with her body glued close on Yue. The content that was projected there was,

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Name : Yue-pon

Rank : 1 / 50 remaining until the next liberation

Job : Apprentice Sister

Title : Sister With a Screw Loose

Skill : No Chant Imagination Configuration

Magic : Flame Magic [Fireball]

Equipment : A set of apprentice sister outfit

Special mention : Has criminal record

Money : 1,000

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Other than those there were also items at hand and also playing time recorded, but there was no list for specs that were quantified into number like in Tortus’s status plate. It was made like this with the reason so the player wouldn’t misunderstand the number as their own strength in real battle and so that the player couldn’t overwhelm the enemy using the difference in status amount. Chapter 252

「Well, it doesn’t matter now, Yue-pon. I still cannot accept it but, we won’t finish anything like this Yue-pon. And? What is this “rank” and “money” about, Yue-pon?」

「……Kaori, what nerve. This sister with a screw loose Yue-pon will turn the village girl into cinder for the peaceful life of the village.」

「Wawawah, calm down Yue! I’m sorry! I won’t say it anymore!」

A ball of flame lit up on Yue’s fingertip. Its appearance was shabby but the pressure that it gave off was a bad news. It seemed that even the most basic of elementary magic could be filled with high class power by the way one controlled the amount of magic power and the compression rate. Chapter 252

「Le, let’s return to our talk. And, what is this “rank” and “money” about?」

「……Nn. About this “rank”, this is the restriction level that is put on us. I cannot use anything other than fireball, and Kaori’s physical ability is low with apostle transformation and magic unusable are also because of that. By leveling up, we will get closer to our ability in the real world.」

「Is that so. Even when in not perfect state, manage it somehow with what you can do……this concept is really like Hajime-kun.」Chapter 252

And resistance to them to Yue since she only had problems with it do to the combination of her magic with Hajimer artifact:

「What will we do, Yue. How are we going home……ah, that’s right! Yue, use soul magic!」

「Mu, there is that method.」

This game device was created by applying soul magic. The highly precise sensation where there was almost no difference with reality was because of that. In that case, it could be thought that for an expert of soul magic it should be possible to logout even without relying on the system.

Yue wasted no time trying to use soul magic.

――Insufficient level

「Mu? ……Mumuh」

「Yue?」

Each time Yue persisted with something while mumbling「Mumuh」, the heavenly voice “insufficient level” descended down. At the end a hypocritically courteous words “let’s understand your standing” descended.

Kaori who somehow guessed the situation asked.

「It looks no good isn’t it?」

「Muu. Even though it absorbed us because it’s broken, but I cannot accept it at all that only this system is perfectly working.」

According to Yue, Yue herself was also participating at the creation of this bodily sensation system that applied soul magic. And then, the “binding” of the game system that was directly affecting the soul was operating effectively even at Yue herself who was a cooperator in the artifact’s creation.

If this effect was purely due to Yue’s own magic, then she would only need to break that restriction, but if Hajime’s artifact was involved there then it would be next to impossible for Yue to cancel it.

Yue who was unable to release her “binding” no matter how many times she tried dropped her shoulders dejectedly.

「……As expected from Hajime’s artifact. And then my magic. We have done a good work.」 Chapter 252

Limited Resistance to Power Nullification in general to the main cast.

「Amanogawa. Try using some kind of magic. Quick!」

「What’s with you――”Light Sphere”……eh? “Light Sphere”! What-, it doesn’t activate!?」

Hajime clicked his tongue. Kouki ran to him in panic.

「Nagumo, what’s going on!?」

「This is……the same like Raisen. No, it’s a version that is several times……dozens of times greater.」Chapter 364

This here show the nullifying effect of magic power of the Factory World and also mention that in the Reisen labyrinth there also existed this effect, though not as potent as in the Factory World, this is later revealed to be (at least in the Factory World case) do to how the world tree was half dead and that caused the enviroment of the world to reach a state where unique energies like magic power couldn't exist/maintain and they were dispersed.

Well, the characters were able to use magic power externally, though it consume much more magic power than normally

「oOOOOOOOOOOOO!!」

Crimson sparks burst out along with a loud scream. Hajime unusually raised Donner with both hands and pulled the trigger in an instant.

It couldn’t compare at all with all the shooting until now. This was the regular technique that should be called as the signature move of the demon king, the sure kill magic bullet――Railgun. Chapter 369

(I can’t do anything against flying enemy, this is really difficult. ……I have recovered slightly from the rest just now, can I fire “Soaring Flash” at least once if I pour all my remaining magic power into it?)

Yes, he could. Nagumo had let his railgun roared. How could he become the only one to say that it would be difficult for him! He scolded himself. The fuel consumption of Hajime’s “Lightning Clad” and the light element advanced attack magic “Soaring Flash” was in a different dimension though…… Chapter 369

And @Celestial_Pegasus probably have some examples of the characters using magic in Reisen labyrinth.

In the end they were unable to use as if nothing magic, but despite so they are capable of doing though with less efficiency, there is also the case in the "virtual world" with both of them been able to act wih far higher skill than what they were suppossed do the level restriction, so a limited resistance to power null is probably correct.

Resistance to Healing/Regeneration Negation to everyone Hajime have give medicine: After face for the first time Fried and the problematic breath of his dragon, Hajime made a medicine able to counter the regen negation of the dragon. This medicine was showcased in the battle of Tio vs Apostle Fried.

Regeneration Downgrade to Shia and Tio: It was brought in the general thread that they didn't show Low-Mid levels of regen in their first keys and instead that level is for later keys, so their regen in the first key should be changed to Mid-Low like Hajime since that is the actual regen they show in this point.

Resistance to Sense Manipulation to Hajime and the wives: In the Tortus Travel when traveling in the sea of trees they were able to feel the presences of monsters despite the mist

And, it was then, Hajime and others simultaneously turned their gazes to the front. Shuu’s eyes widened and he asked.

「Hajime? What’s wrong?」

「Monster. A group of them. It’s a rare chance. Let’s capture several of them for show……」Chapter 426

Supernatural Willpower to Hajime: He already have listed it in the Post-Schnee key, but he should get it before that do to his unbelievable will to live and continue to fight despite how poorly is his body and how bad is the situation, the first example is for example how he continued to advance after lose the arm andwithout having eat for several days (8 days I think?), he also resisted the pain of eat monster meat despite their effects until the point he got skills and mutated, in the same first vol he also continued to fight with the hydra despite lose the eye and be half dead, he even awakened Riftwalk in that fight and protected Yue from everything, I don't have the light novel part of the fight to show it but I can give when that fight was saw by the families in the after stories

Hajime collapsed before their eyes.

「「Hajime!」」

Shuu and Sumire spontaneously rushed toward him seeing that scene.

They kneeled beside him and reached out their hand, but those hands passed through their son’s body and wandered in empty air.

「Tou-san, Kaa-san. I’m over here.」

Hajime approached Shuu and Sumire while smiling wryly. Yes, the real Hajime was.

The two gasped and turned their gaze. They saw the figure of their son holding up Myuu there and let out a long sigh in relieve. And then, they made a similar wry smile.

At the same time, before their eyes the past Hajime who was wounded all over melted into thin air and vanished.

This place was the true Orcus Great Dungeon――floor 100. The final destination of the abyss, the place where the hideout of Oscar Orcus was located, and then, the location where the strongest guardian the Hydra was lying in wait.

Until now Hajime and co were watching the grand last boss fight that Hajime and Yue got into.

Even though they understood that it was nothing more than projection, it was a fight for survival with impact that couldn’t be compared with a mere 3D movie.

The hydra’s roar, the fatal breath attack, the counterattack using magic and gunshot……

And then, Hajime who covered Yue and got swallowed by the fatal light.

His right eye was evaporated, a part of his body was carbonized, and he pitched forward falling as though he had no strength left.

In order to protect Hajime, Yue dashed forward holding Donner with one hand in her condition that only had meager magic power.

The scene was a storm of light bullets trampling through space like a meteor shower couldn’t help made the parents but stiffen up even though they knew that it was just a projection. In fact, if Kaoruko and Akiko didn’t receive magic that increased their mental resistance from Tio, they would have fainted more than dozens of times about now.

The sight of those light bullets hitting Yue hard until her body became tattered was something hard to believe looking at her current invincible queen like self.

At the same time, her figure that was gritting her teeth without taking even a single step back no matter what, risking her life in order to protect Hajime looked so noble it shook them. Sumire and Shuu too, they couldn’t help but hugging Yue tightly while watching the projection.

Before long the fatal light of judgment was fired. Before that attack that was unleashed in order to annihilate the insolent intruder, Yue was staring straight ahead, however……

Hajime revived in a hair’s breadth.

Everyone spontaneously cheered 「Oo!」. But, they immediately understood from looking. That Hajime didn’t revive or anything. It was only his guts supporting him. Hajime’s figure that was visibly in appalling state vividly displayed that he almost wasn’t even healed at all.

However, from there it was a dramatic development. It was overwhelming, astounding, and miraculous. It was like a tale of a legend.

The two nestling close to each other within the meteor shower was slipping through as though they were dancing. The light of annihilation was already like it was nothing more than a splendorous lighting illuminating the two.

Running through the air, smashing the ceiling and dropping it, transmuting an improvised smelting furnace. The blue flame of demise was unleashed with harmonized beat of the two.

The scream of death agony of the last guardian echoed. Chapter 329

Resistance to Gravity Manipulation to Shia: Shias is bugged as always

Yue who stopped the murders at the end with super gravity field crouched on the edge of the hole and patted Shia’s head. It was a patting that was also using soul magic for healing the target’s mind. Yue’s hand was slightly shivering because of Shia who moved around normally even though she was put under her full powered super gravity field.

Yue also used sublimation magic before Shia finally stopped but……most likely she would be able to simply endure a normal “Black Sky Destitution” if it wasn’t powered up with sublimation magic and the like. Depending on the situation it was very likely that Shia would burst out from inside. And so it couldn’t be helped that the strongest vampire princess was getting cold feet. Chapter 427.

Infinite Magic Power​

Well, we knew that this would happen eventually after the creation of the perpetual motion machine and finally the day come.

Hajime in the onmyouji arc finally made the prototype of the artifact that give the infinite magic of Grasp Gloria for practical use and gave this artifact to everyone basically:

「Delivery~, we have delivery heree~!!」

「A present from the mister~~~~」

A gate manifested in front of the lord. From there small silhouettes flew out along with cheerful voices that sounded out of place.

They were two palm sized girl who looked adorable like in a dream, wearing pretty dress. They had two pairs of shining wings on their back.

One had long light green hair, and the other one had pink colored bob cut. Their faces looking exactly the same like the other was proof that they were twins.

They were the fairy sisters, Rune and Cino.

The big sister Rune rode the wind and put a necklace on the lord. Cino went to Shia.

Following after them, the “fairies who planned to migrate to the Miniature Garden” flew out from the gate and distributed necklaces to Kaori and Etemp, and the to the allies on the ground below.

Right after that.

「Nuoooh!? What’s this!? Power if overflowing……」

His dried out magic power was instantly refilled to full tank. It didn’t stop at just that, immense magic power was constantly flowing from the necklace.

『Goshuji-sama couldst not answer because he is focusing, so I shall explain briefly in his place.』

...

『That artifact art supplying infinite energy through the Miniature Garden’s Treasure Tree only to those who holdst it. It doth not care what type of power the owner used.』

However, it was still a prototype so Hajime had to control everything manually.

Right now Hajime was closing his eyes while sitting in meditation posture in the Miniature Garden’s world that was cultivating immense as well as abundant nature with the Treasure Tree behind him. He was also using Limit Break in his focus.

Like that, he was continuously supplying infinite power to his comrades, subordinate devils, and the divine spirits who were scattered all over the world. Chapter 424

The necklace artifact is a prototype and still isn't perfect so it can't be added as standard equipment but instead as a optional one. Every character from the returnees group get it in their After-Stories key.

Shuten Douji/Yaya no Hidzuki and Smartphone​

So, Kouki got a new wife and she put a mark on him:

『――Tsu, what are you!?』

Shuten Douji who finally became just a head suddenly moved and bit at Kousuke’s neck.

Kousuke immediately tried to shake her away thinking that she might have lost her sanity again, but before that Shuten Douji’s head easily let go and floated in the air.

Lick, her tongue licked her lips with an excessively lascivious atmosphere.

『I put on a mark on you. So that we are always connected no matter where.』

『Eh? Mark? Connected?』

Shuten Douji didn’t answer the question of the bewildered Kousuke. She was finally in the verge of disappearing. She put on a sweet smile that looked really captivating and yet also girly while saying.

『Engrave it inside yourself, mine name is――』

『――?』

For some reason Hajime and others were unable to hear that name. Perhaps that name was conveyed through conception, or perhaps there was a different reason. Anyway, it was clear that it had a meaning that was more than simply being a name.

『If you call for me, then next time I shall be of assistance for you. No matter where you are in the world――my beloved.』 Chapter 389

It was showed that Kousuke forgot about this and only remembered their contract in his dreams, until the onmyouji arc when she reacted more and more in reaction to the danger Kousuke faced and in the end finally manifested:

Instantly Kousuke decided to push through with a reckless move even if it would exhaust his soul――it was then.

――Mine beloved

He heard a voice.

In that instant, his memory of “her” revolved in his mind like a revolving lantern.

At the same time he felt it, that presence.

He gasped and turned his gaze.

The man in black who was letting out a mad laugh in his belief of his victory was holding a cursed horn with his earth tentacle. Looking closer, Kousuke’s blood that was dripping down had hit it, causing the horn to be wrapped in a faint light.

Right away, a heat without intense pain caressed his neck. His whole body turned heated as though he was being enveloped.

(Aa, sorry.)

An apology spontaneously came up in his mind.

On the ground above, Hinata was reaching out with her hand while making a tearful expression in the arms of his clone.

Taisei, the elderly nobleman, the other onmyoujis of Tsuchimikado, and the people of Fujiwara who were conscious were watching the charging oni with expression of despair.

However, Kousuke didn’t apologize to them because he had given up on life.

The one who he apologized to was the person who had been calling him all this time.

He never even though that she would really cross a world to help him.

But even more than that, his instinct was telling him that thing would become bad once he called for her, because of that he had subconsciously submerged that contract to the bottom of his memory.

The beautiful boss of oni.

Her name was,

「――”Yaya no Hidzuki (Crimson Moon of Nights)”」Chapter 412

Additionally Yaya possessed a horn in a string which she use to manifest or erase herself:

Also, Hidzuki was unseen until just now because she had dispelled her materialized state temporarily.

Hanging on Kousuke’s neck was a magical object tied on a string――Shuten Douji’s horn. By possessing this object and giving it his blood periodically, it enabled Hidzuki to freely materialize or erase herself. Also even when she was not materialized, she was able to contact Kousuke telepathically. Chapter 419

Said horn should be optional equipment since currently he give it to Hinata:

Right now, the horn catalyst that served as Hidzuki’s core was in Hinata’s possession. Hidzuki would appear instantly if she summoned her, and she would also automatically protect Hinata if there was a magical danger just like that time with Kousuke. Chapter 425

All of this mean that Yaya need to be added to his profile and not only reflect her presence in the powers section but also in the tier section since Yaya can fight against base Shia:

「If it’s here then a little bit of fun wouldst be allowed correct? Right, miss rabbit?」

「Aa geez, why is it that all the fellows who got fixated on me are all like thisss-」

In order to prevent the meats that she had grilled well after much effort turning into victim, Shia dashed away and ran with all her might.

「So we art playing oni gokkotag? Fufu, I accept! Wait, wait for mee~ ♪」(TN: Oni gokko, a game of pretending getting chased by oni, or in other words playing tag)

Hidzuki began a literal oni gokko with a look of a maiden in love.

The ********* elf Altena, the mad dog imperial princess Tracy, the yandere divine spirit Soare. And then now the brawl lover oni god was also added to that list.

...

From afar there were voices 「SHAORAAAAAAAAA」「AHAH, AHAHAHAHAH」 that were accompanied with absurdly loud thunderous sound. Chapter 425

Shia don't seem to be using Body Strengthening, or at least no the middles levels since they have big effects in the surroundings just with their activation, so Yaya will be 'at least Low 6-B, possibly 6-B'

Regarding her powers she as apparition have the standar abilities established in previous threads:
Abstract Existence Type 2, Immo Type 1 and 8:

「Apparitions are existences that is born from legends of other worlds. The heaven tree absorbed the thoughts of the people that are filled with those legends and grant them shape. The heaven tree is the lynchpin of this world with such role.」

According to her, the residences of this world were existences that were materialized from the legends of other worlds.

Legends were the wishes and prayers of the people, or perhaps objects of reverence, or even symbols of fear.

Those things were called as “conception” in general. It was a form of energy that was similar to magic power and the like.

And then, this conception existed in any world. The heaven world absorbed those conceptions through the great trees of other worlds, converted them into the unique energy of this world that was called “thought element”, and gave it form.

「Then……that nine-tails and karasu tengu……they are really existences like in the books?」

「No hero-sama. Certainly the origin of the apparitions are legends, so they possess similar ability. However, their personality is different. They are born in this world, and the self of each of them is established while living in this world. They aren’t existence inside fairy tales, but a living life in this world.」

Aularodde spoke with a serious gaze. Affectionate heart that was befitting a goddess could be seen from her eyes. It was as though she loved those apparitions from her heart.

「In addition, it’s not just hero-sama’s world that has legends. ……There are tens of thousands, hundreds of millions of legends across many worlds. There are many similar existences among those legends, and sometimes they will mix and raise their first cry of birth in this world.」

…

「I see……that’s why you said that they are immortal.」

「Yes. An apparition’s death will only come when the legend that is their origin is completely forgotten.」

Aularodde nodded and continued explaining. According to her, naturally the existences that were talked in mythology――the like of god, divine beast, and evil god seemed to exist too.

There was no mythology bunch among the invasion this time was because in the past Aularodde had faced them at the very beginning and defeated them. Even now she kept interfering with the conception to prevent them from being revived.

In other words, she succeeded in temporarily sealing the mythological existences, but because of that Aularodde’s power was constantly being greatly limited.

Hearing that, Hajime recalled the relationship between Lutria and her divine spirits. Chapter 385

(The other tourists can’t see them?)

Kousuke muttered in his heart. Even though multiple strange creatures had clearly appeared, the tourists were only staring at the broken stone paving in a daze. They weren’t paying attention to the apparitions at all. Chapter 405

「No, no. Don’t mind the likes of me. It seems that it’s you two instead who are being the most troubled after all.」

Fukube’s eyes were slightly narrowed.

「The video, it wasn’t faked wasn’t it?」

In the videos or pictures, the white mist monsters that Kousuke and Hinata faced weren’t recorded. That included the strange techniques of the attackers.

However, it was confirmed that they were doing something which caused physical destruction as the result. Chapter 406

『Of course. The opponents mainly consisted of casters but, the possibility of them bringing some types of apparitions with them is high. I already sent bullets and artifacts that will be effective even against them to Karm, along with healing items. Join up with him on site and resupply there.』Chapter 416

Hidzuki acted as usual. She had warned him, and she looked like she was satisfied from the date and toying with Hinata. Her figure slowly vanished into thin air. She must be transforming into her spiritual form. Chapter 425

Yaya herself also have:
Overwhelming Aura, Fear Manipulation and Social Influencing with her beauty

「So ye finally calleth?」

A delighted and very bewitching woman voice resounded.

And yet, for some reason it sent chills into their spine.

The smoke was swept away by wind.

There was a woman with height taller than two meters there. She had beautiful white long hair and golden eyes. She was wearing a beautiful kimono with black background and embroidery of red spider lily, worn slovenly so that her breasts looked like they were going to spill out.

And then, there were three splendid horns growing from the middle and both sides of her forehead.

That existence who suddenly appeared caused everyone including Hinata to gulp from the dread that assaulted them.

Was it because she was stopping the charging oni with a single hand like it was nothing?

That was a part of it.

But, even more than that, the fierce demonic aura that she emitted liberally even while smiling elegantly was overwhelming the onmyoujis, no, the humans’ instinct.

With her intuition that was unparalleled as expected, Hinata saw through her true identity.

「No way……Shuten, Douji?」Chapter 412

Looking closer, the log that she caught was being enveloped with an aura that had similar color to blood. Most likely its toughness was increasing from that. The logs that flew at her got one-sidedly pulverized. Chapter 413

When Hidzuki crossed her arms, powerful arms of oni made from crimson demonic aura were also forming in the air and served as a giant shield.

...

Exhaled air that was filled with piercing fighting spirit leaked out from between her gritted teeth. She abandoned elegance and kneaded her strength without any care of appearance.

Her horns shined blazingly. Her demonic aura explosively increased and the arms of demonic aura that was forming a cross guard in the air swelled out.

Her legs were still fixed into the ground as she opened her guard. She lifted up her left arm as she kept blocking the powerful torrent, twisted her upper body to the limit, and pulled her right arm to the back like a drawn bow. Naturally, the arm of demonic aura also took the same stance…… Chapter 424

Height that reached two meters was too inconspicuous, so she shortened herself. She also made her horn to be out of sight with her own power. It was apparently the result of Hidzuki in her own way to hide her true identity so that she wouldn’t stand out after a fashion.

She was still normally drawing gazes from the passerby due to her atmosphere and beauty though.

...

「Mine beloved, ye don’t need to worry about anything♪」

Hidzuki-san smiled sweetly and linked her arms with him, then she snuggled up to him and leaned coquettishly. Her bewitchment tripled with her face looking ecstatic and her cheeks blushing.

The stealth was broken! The businessmen & women who were passing by got hit by the atmosphere and looked captivated!

「W-w-w-wait, Hidzuki-san!」

「What is it, mine beloved?」

Sweet. Whether it was her tone, or her expression, or the aura she was radiating. Perhaps it was just imagination, but it felt like there was also a sweet smell from her. Chapter 425

Shockwave generation:

「I shan’t allow a mere base animal to touch mine beloved.」

A fist attack. To the edge of the dragon’s den.

Thunderous sound and intense tremor broke out. But, the impact didn’t spread out. In exchange.

『Guaa!?』

The six tails that were fixing the man in black in place were simultaneously smashed up.

(Impact diffusion!? Furthermore that delicately-!?)

Kousuke’s eyes widened reflexively. Chapter 413

Telepathy:

Also, Hidzuki was unseen until just now because she had dispelled her materialized state temporarily.

Hanging on Kousuke’s neck was a magical object tied on a string――Shuten Douji’s horn. By possessing this object and giving it his blood periodically, it enabled Hidzuki to freely materialize or erase herself. Also even when she was not materialized, she was able to contact Kousuke telepathically. Chapter 419

Size Manipulation:

「So cramped……」

「It’s just for a bit. The space will widen a bit more at the end of the slope.」

The slope was gentle, but no matter how he saw it, they would have to advance while stooping if it was this cramped. The hole itself was also manmade but the way they dug it was really sloppy. The bumpiness was really bad. It was unimaginable that this hole was intended for frequent entry or for a lot of people to enter.

No, for the average height of the Japanese people at the era when Abe no Seimei was alive, perhaps this much was already sufficient, but……

「This will be hard for Hidzuki.」

Do you want to return to the medium? Kousuke asked while looking back. Then,

「There wouldst not be any problem with this.」

Few red colored particles flew before a weight softly landed on Kousuke’s shoulder.

「Eh!?」

「Chibi Hidzuki-chan!」

Rana’s eyes immediately sparkled. Yes, Hidzuki changed into a size that could be put on a palm and got on Kousuke’s shoulder.

「Something like mine shape is indetermined in this world. It might be impossible for me to become something else, but simply changing mine height is possible ye know? Though it used a considerable power to do.」 Chapter 419

Immo Type 3 and Regeneration (Mid scaling from the rest of onis):

Two other huge onis rushed from her left and right. One of them was a part of Mountain Ooe’s big four――the blue oni Kuma Douji. The other one was the red oni, Kane Douji. They had two horns and face that looked exactly like oni mask.

「Ye two hath been reduced into really ugly me, so pitiful, pitiful indeed!」

...

Her right fist that was fully pushed by centrifugal force hit Kuma Douji’s face. The attack that was swung down from diagonally above didn’t send Kuma Douji flying. His face was slammed on the ground with Hidzuki’s face still sinking into it.

The ground quaked for who knew how many time it was. The hard ground was blown away in a round shape. Kuma Douji’s face flew off in a state like a crushed tomato.

「Ye made the title of four heavenly kings cry!」

Hidzuki casually kicked away Kuma Douji’s headless body. Then right after that Kane Douji who had gotten of his feet slammed his body to her.

...

Actually the remaining four heavenly kings――Hoshikuma Douji and Torakuma Douji had finished regenerating from when she pulverized their upper body at the beginning. Now they were returning here. From the presences, it seemed that it was also the same with Ibaraki Douji, Kuma Douji, and Kane Douji. Chapter 421

Ootakemaru groaned and glared.

Although weakened, perhaps it was just to be expected from an oni. There wasn’t any sign of his fighting spirit weakening at all. His oozing killing intent was just like in legend, when he leaped even when reduced to only his head to bite his opponent.

And so,

「Aha, that’s how an oni shouldst be!!」Chapter 413

And there probably are more that I'm forgetting but meh.

Now, the smartphone. Kousuke should have listed as possibly having the smatphone, this because we already know that Hajime is giving to everyone his artifacts and he take special care of his family, doting them to a dangerous grade, and since Kousuke not only is a good friend (probably his best friend actually) and his right hand man but also his family, Hajime should have give him a smartphone with the ability to talk between worlds (since is also useful for his work and his adventures) and probably even the automatic resurrection function, so Kousuke should have listed it as possibly in the profile.



In the end do to several personal reasons I feel the crt ended more sloppy than what I wanted, sorry for that, I hope that despite this the thread is fine since everything in the crt was already talked in the general discussion thread.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Stuff i don't comment on, i agree with.

Tiers

Low 6-B

• Mother: Apostles don't really have limit break, they basically simulate a limit break, that's why it's a "pseudo limit break", in other words Mother would be 6-B if this refers to platinum apostles, cause it would refer to them with their limit break. Also since the threats in the Afterstories are constantly compared to Apostles and their feats ie Meeres are above normal Apostles, at this point i think Mother should just fully scale to Plantinum Apostles.

6-B

• After-Stories Shia: Unless i am miss remembering, Udar vs Shia was a fairly even fight, until Shia used VII and stomped him, and then later with Oros, it's only when she used VII again, that she was clearly superior, i don't think Level V should be 6-B, but could be wrong.
• After Stories Kouki: Kouki was severely weakened, and the gap is only 2x, still an At least rating would probably be better for his base then, 6-B with Limit Break and Overload, however as i said above i think Mother should just be 6-B, and thus Kouki is 6-B.

Hajime Enhanced Weapons​

Wives shouldn't scale to Hajime's enhanced weapons, cause as you said while they are clearly comparable to his Base, above that things are vague.

Shuten Douji/Yaya no Hidzuki and Smartphone​

"Base" Shia isn't really defined, Shia never fights without some level of body strengthening, it's why i said i don't think it appropriate for her to have a varies key in the main story, cause her power doesn't vary widely, and we don't get what level of strengthening she uses.

Point being, we can't assume Shia isn't using body strengthening, i would argue against that actually, and in terms of having effects on her surroundings, besides Level X and up, do we have proof of that for the lower levels?

Low 6-B Shia is Level V, which is what she normally uses against major threats, "Base" ie no body strengthening would be below that, if you are saying she isn't using body strengthening then Yaya clearly isn't Low 6-B.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

• Mother: Apostles don't really have limit break, they basically simulate a limit break, that's why it's a "pseudo limit break", in other words Mother would be 6-B if this refers to platinum apostles, cause it would refer to them with their limit break. Also since the threats in the Afterstories are constantly compared to Apostles and their feats ie Meeres are above normal Apostles, at this point i think Mother should just fully scale to Plantinum Apostles.

Hmm, I think the pseudo limit break refer more to the strengthened platinum state so she would just be Low 6-B, though your interpretation could be correct but I don't honestly, maybe something like 'Low 6-B, possibly 6-B' could be fine? I also feel that she probably scale fully to the Platinum Apostles tier, though I also feel that the 7-B end is a acceptable sort of safe interpretation since the nature of her arc is problematic in the sense that the protagonist were severly weakened. I think something like 'At least 7-B, likely Low 6-B, possibly 6-B' is the best since it consider all possible interpretations.

Also, the Platinum Apostles would be 6-B with Limit Break no? Because in that case they would end like 'Low 6-B (3.44 teratons), 6-B with Limit Break (10.32 teratons)'

• After-Stories Shia: Unless i am miss remembering, Udar vs Shia was a fairly even fight, until Shia used VII and stomped him, and then later with Oros, it's only when she used VII again, that she was clearly superior, i don't think Level V should be 6-B, but could be wrong.

Hmm, is certainly more or less an even fight, though the punches of Shia at Level V indeed did some serious damage to Udar.

「Don’t call me over familiarly! Desuu!!」

She punched with a right straight!!

『Goa!?』

The ultimate cross-counter beautifully, perfectly hit.

The lightning spear grazed Shia’s face and stabbed the empty air in vain. Shia’s right straight bore into the right cheek of the divine spirit.

Even though it was lightning speed that shouldn’t be possible to be confirmed by sight or anything.

Even though until now, she was only able to dodge by knowing in advance using vision of death.

The counter that Shia unleashed was so perfect it would make anyone fall in love!

The divine spirit helplessly got deflected back like a light that was reflected by a mirror!

He flew, bounced on the ground, and then without stopping he gouged a deep trench on the ground before he finally stopped.

『……Guh, impossible. That’s an accident.』

The trembling voice showed that he definitely felt the damage. The divine spirit instantly entered into the world of lightning speed from his downed posture.

And then, he circled on Shia’s back within an instant and lunged with lightning hand chop――

Bam A pleasant impacting sound resounded. At the same time,

『Nugua!?』

The divine spirit’s scream also resounded.

He was blown away once again due to the countless impact to his face. This time he barely recovered his balance and quickly took distance. There, the divine spirit saw it.

Shia let go of her stance.

No, that was also a stance, the divine spirit sensed. It wasn’t that defensive stance of covering her head with both arms, she lowered her right fist to below her chin, and lowered her left arm to form ‘L’ shape, most likely it was a more offensive style.

Yes, that was

――Shia-style boxing Hitman Style

Another name for it was Detroit Style. The jab of the left arm that made use of snapping the arm was like a whip.

「Fumu, it’s working quite well. It’s worthwhile learning this properly from You ○ube.」

Tap tap Shia’s feet rhythmically stepped on the ground, then when she also launched some jabs to familiarize herself, bam bam a sound as though the air was ruptured rang out. That wasn’t jab anymore……it felt like earthling would say that after seeing this.

Not just once but even twice, the divine spirit was blown away.

Even though she was definitely unable to see him just a while ago, now he couldn’t get away from her gaze!

DON-, the ground exploded.

When the divine spirit who was seized with fear got taken aback in surprise, the figure of Shia who took a step was before his eyes.

「Shih」

『NUOOO!?』

He desperately dodged in panic. But, the left arm that warped like a whip was already hard to predict even at the best of times due to its trajectory, what’s more it was fired constantly aiming at his future position!

Not only was she able to see. His very movement was seen through!

「I can see! Even I can see! Desuu!!」

『It’s lightning you know!? There is no way you can follow it with your eyes isn’t it!?』

It should be impossible. And yet, as expected Shia’s gaze was chasing him no matter where! She was certainly chasing the lightning speed with sight!

Even when he circled around, even when he rapidly approached from the front, the fist of unparalleled accuracy came flying! Even when he temporarily retreated, he was cut off instead at the place where he was running.

It was as though he got locked on, the barrage of fist caught the divine spirit and wouldn’t let go. The accuracy, the speed, and also the foresight, they were increasing in precision moment by moment.

Like that, finally,

「Shaoraaa-!!」

『Gahah!?』

The divine spirit who received ten left jabs in an instant stopped moving. In that instant, Shia’s full powered right fist dealt a severe body blow.

The fist that also used soul magic was literally a fatal attack that resounded until the divine spirit’s soul!

The divine spirit’s body bent into ‘<’ shape and he stumbled.

「Seeii!!」

In contrast with the yell that gave cute impression, the might of the launched kick was completely merciless.

The divine spirit hung his head down. His face completely ate the kick that approached from right below and his head snapped up.

Yes, he was unable to maintain the lightning body and his head snapped off from his body!

The slender and long leg that vertically stretched up as though to pierce the sky was beautiful.

『Kuh, you damn――』

The divine spirit immediately sparked and regenerated, but losing his head created an instant of fatal opening in his consciousness.

Grab-, two arms circled around him from behind. The divine spirit’s words spontaneously stopped. When he looked across his shoulder, a grinning rabbit eared girl was there. My, how cute. And then there was nothing scarier than that.

「DOSSEEEEIII!!」

『Wa, wai――』

She didn’t wait.

Divine spirit-san experienced his first back drop in his divine life. 『Pugya!?』 a scream that was unbecoming for a divine spirit was raised and his head snapped off once more.

Pashi-, the divine spirit attempted to take distance somewhat looking like he was panicked and desperate.

Rather than regenerating his head, first he got to get away from this rabbit eared girl somehow! Such will could be glimpsed from him.

The divine spirit who somehow regenerated shouldn’t feel anything like physical exhaustion, and yet he was breathing roughly 『Zee zee』.

Surely it was the fault of mental exhaustion due to damage to his soul or the unknown existence of the absurd rabbit.

So because of this I more or less thought that Level V scaled above them, the biggest problem in the fight was the speed part and she after a short time reached and surpassed him with her reactive evolution, so in the end the 6-B was taking in consideration the damage that Level 5 already did and her RE in middle of the fight. Though if you don't think Level V should upscale to 6-B what do you think about Level VII?

• After Stories Kouki: Kouki was severely weakened, and the gap is only 2x, still an At least rating would probably be better for his base then, 6-B with Limit Break and Overload, however as i said above i think Mother should just be 6-B, and thus Kouki is 6-B.

Ehh, I guess that his base can be just Low 6-B as you say though considering the weakened state is that I said that his base could upscale to 6-B. Considering the interpretation that Mother was comparable to Limit Break Platinum Apostles then his base would regardless reach 6-B, and if in the end is used the middle proposition about Mother that I said before he could end like: 'At leat 7-B, likely Low 6-B, possibly 6-B, higher with Limit Break and Overload'.

And now that I think more about it, with Aularodde he should scale above his Overload self? He had more power than ever before and that was showed with him making the biggest light dragon until now and the flock of small light dragons, things that he wasn't able before.

"Base" Shia isn't really defined, Shia never fights without some level of body strengthening, it's why i said i don't think it appropriate for her to have a varies key in the main story, cause her power doesn't vary widely, and we don't get what level of strengthening she uses.

Point being, we can't assume Shia isn't using body strengthening, i would argue against that actually, and in terms of having effects on her surroundings, besides Level X and up, do we have proof of that for the lower levels?

Low 6-B Shia is Level V, which is what she normally uses against major threats, "Base" ie no body strengthening would be below that, if you are saying she isn't using body strengthening then Yaya clearly isn't Low 6-B.

I was actually planning to argue that she indeed show effects in the surroundings with middle levels and thus she probably didn't used them against Yaya, but after look again at the fights in the Brutal Hero arc the effects she show in said levels are things like big earthquakes and such:

A war hammer created from blood using blood manipulation.

It was mercilessly swung down as though being sucked toward the future location where the divine spirit was going to escape to with lightning transformation.

A severe tremor that resembled an earthquake shook the capital’s outskirt. A shockwave that shook even the atmosphere attacked the people of the capital and his majesty Eric and others above the hill.

Clouds of dust rose as though an explosion had gone off.

Which actually is more or less what was felt from their battle in the Miniature Garden, so I guess you are right and she used something like Level V or even VII. The effects to the surroundings I was thinking were more from Level VIII and forward.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

At least 7-B, likely Low 6-B, possibly 6-B works for Mother.

Yes Platinum Apostles would be 6-B with Limit Break.

We can say Level V Shia is stronger sure as you explained, but assuming 2x stronger might be a bit much, maybe an at least Low 6-B works best there.

Level VII is kinda vague, she is above divine spirits, she one shot Udar, and based on the other levels you could interpret it as being massively above, but stuff like Level IX puts this into question, where it can block and deflect Lutria's attacks, and Level X being Lutria level, the gap there is big, but not ginormous as you would think, between each level.

Though with a gap of only 2x, and Shia already being arguably stronger than a divine spirit in Level V, plus a 2 Level difference, you can definitely say Level VII should be 6-B.

At least 7-B, likely Low 6-B, possibly 6-B, higher with Limit Break and Overload works for Kouki, and yea with Aularodde he would scale higher.

Yaya scaling to Level V would be fine.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Very good then, today I have exam and tomorrow I will go out with my family, so maybe the sunday I can begin to apply things.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Well, surprisingly the exam ended much quicker than what I expected so I can begin to apply some of the changes, will begin with the more simples changes.

Edit: I just noticed but seem that I forgot to add resistance to hacking to Mother, would be right if I add it to her? The justification would be that G10 was unable to hack her and could at most hack a few machine soldiers after a long period of time

Also, for some reason the categories of Mother are weird, they repeat three times and I can't see how change that.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

This needs more staff input.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Really? Since the tier changes are based in calcs I thought it would be pretty simple, you also are fine with the more complex things that need a bit of understanding of the novel like the scaling and abilities.

But well, will try to get more staff input, though I already applied the more directs and simple changes like the Apostles, Fried and Mother.

Also, since we are talking about tiers, as said before in other thread Shizuku should have listed that she reach 8-A with the amp of Limiter Removal

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

The threads been up for like a day, and while my input is good since i actually know the verse, having more input is probably needed, like nothing i have tried passing ever ends with only a day and 1 person saying ok, i wish it was that easy.

Like for example the calc is accepted sure, but ppl might have issues with the multipliers bringing the characters up to High 6-B, multipliers are always controversial,

Also yea Shizuku should be 8-A with Limit Break, since she is above 38 tons, and it's a 3x boost.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

I guess the multiplier point is fair, I already contacted some staff so gonna wait until they come.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Bump.

 

[Elizhaa]

Abilities seem fine; I agree with Celestial Pegasus' points regarding the tiers.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Resistance to Sense Manipulation to Hajime and the wives: In the Tortus Travel when traveling in the sea of trees they were able to feel the presences of monsters despite the mist

And, it was then, Hajime and others simultaneously turned their gazes to the front. Shuu’s eyes widened and he asked.

「Hajime? What’s wrong?」

「Monster. A group of them. It’s a rare chance. Let’s capture several of them for show……」Chapter 426

How is this resistance? Is it stated the mist blocks ESP or something? Because being able to feel the presence of others isn't related to eye sight...

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

How is this resistance? Is it stated the mist blocks ESP or something? Because being able to feel the presence of others isn't related to eye sight...

Yes, the mist of the forest have the special effect of interfere with the senses of anyone inside (the only exception are the beastman), currently the characters that aren't affected by the mist (like the Apostles) have resistance to sense manip.

Also, aside from that what do you think about the rest?

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Yes, the mist of the forest have the special effect of interfere with the senses of anyone inside (the only exception are the beastman), currently the characters that aren't affected by the mist (like the Apostles) have resistance to sense manip.

Ok.

Also, aside from that what do you think about the rest?

Well I can't say anything on scaling since I don't know the verse but so long as the calc is accepted I don't have an issue.

The other abilities seem fine.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Ok, since three mods agreed I will continue to apply the things.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

While I was editing the profile of Kouki I noticed things like this:

City level (Comparable to Apostles), City level with Limit Break and Overload

City Class, City Class with Limit Break and Overload

From what I think is the End of Main Story key of Kouki, I don't know if is a error in the sense that they were just repeated or if by some chance it was supposed to be Mountain level/class with Limit Break and Overload in that key.

Also, if with Auralodde he scale above his previous Overload self wouldn't he be above 51.6 teratons? Because in that case with Limit Break he would become 154.8 teratons and with Overload 258 teratons?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Just an error.

I guess so. yes.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Everything has been applied, right?

Also is this going to be the last CRT for Arifureta?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Everything has been applied, right?

Also is this going to be the last CRT for Arifureta?

No, just the simple changes since I still didn't had time to do the more "bigger" ones.

For now possibly, at least this should be the last big one and the future ones should be for minor abilities or fixes.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Okay then
I wanted to call the staffs to came but looks like it's over too late for me lel

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Abilities seem fine; I agree with Celestial Pegasus' points regarding the tiers.

I share the same thoughts.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

@Celestial_Pegasus could you change the tiers of Shia? Since how explicitly format her case with the levels of body strengthening is a bit tricky I would like if you do it just in case.

Also, could you add the law resistance to Yue, don't know exactly how to word it.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Was trying to avoid rereading or dealing with the last arc till the LN gets there, nonetheless just glancing at Shia vs Platinum Apostles, presents us with issues.

How much of a gap there was between the two.

For argument’s sake, if the platinum apostles had a status plate, the stats indicated on it would be something like this:

＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝

Physical strength:22.000 [Strengthened 66000]

Stamina:22.000 [Strengthened: 66000]

Resistance:22.000 [Strengthened: 66000]

Agility:22.000 [Strengthened: 66000]

Magical power:22.000 [Strengthened: 66000]

Magical resistance:22.000 ? [Strengthened: 66000]

＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝

For normal apostles, their stats would all be at 12.000, and at 36.000 after being strengthened. Meaning those white-platinum apostles almost had twice their stats.

And, Shia’s body strengthening Level V was (Note: CM stands for Cheatmate, SM for sublimation magic, BS for body strengthening):

Strengthened means Limit Break obviously which would be 6-B, however the issue comes in their normal stats, a normal apostle using Limit Break would have stats surpassing a Platinum Apostle, which makes absolutely no sense when Base Hajime post evolution magic can take on those normal apostles without himself needing limit break, Kaori, Tio etc all have similar statements of feats of being able to easily handle normal apostles post evolution magic.

These characters who already were above normal apostles then spent an entire week training inside basically a hyperbolic time chamber, and yet still we are to believe their stats don't surpass normal apostle's limit break? Not to mention the massive gap in feats between normal apostles and platinum apostle level ppl, it makes absolutely no sense.

I say stats are bs here, and we disregard it, the normal apostles stats anyway.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Was trying to avoid rereading or dealing with the last arc till the LN gets there, nonetheless just glancing at Shia vs Platinum Apostles, presents us with issues.



Strengthened means Limit Break obviously which would be 6-B, however the issue comes in their normal stats, a normal apostle using Limit Break would have stats surpassing a Platinum Apostle, which makes absolutely no sense when Base Hajime post evolution magic can take on those normal apostles without himself needing limit break, Kaori, Tio etc all have similar statements of feats of being able to easily handle normal apostles post evolution magic.

These characters who already were above normal apostles then spent an entire week training inside basically a hyperbolic time chamber, and yet still we are to believe their stats don't surpass normal apostle's limit break? Not to mention the massive gap in feats between normal apostles and platinum apostle level ppl, it makes absolutely no sense.

I say stats are bs here, and we disregard it, the normal apostles stats anyway.

I know, it help us to know the strengthening of Shia better but the normal Apostles stats have so little sense that isn't even funny, so I'm also fine with disregard them do to be inconsistent with everything else.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Everything aside from the law resistance to Yue was applied so when that's added this can be closed.

Edit: Forget it, just noticed that she already have the resistance added, so this can be closed.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Eht wasn't updated.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

****, I'm just dumb, I thought in do that after edit Hajime profile but it took so long and was so late that I completely forgot, gonna do it in a moment.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Done, any problem with the justifications?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Nope put you forgot to change continent level to large country level in his 2nd ap section, fixed it.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Nope put you forgot to change continent level to large country level in his 2nd ap section, fixed it.

... Well, at least now is fine. The rest of profiles seem to have any sort of problem?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Besides grammar, not really, that's stuff i will fix when i get time.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Besides grammar, not really, that's stuff i will fix when i get time.

Thanks, that's my weakest point do to how I learned english.