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Mondaiji Profiles
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@Cynical: Thanks. It'll be a big help and possibly speed this process up if anything.
As for His Higness's blade immunity thing, i don't know how to quantify that either. I did read, however, that it allowed Izayoi to not die from Kuro Usagi's spear attack which in the LN is said to destroy an entire galaxy or something when he grabbed it. Though idk if he grabbed it by it's blade or not and just merely the shaft since i'm still far behind it at just Vol 5.
As for His Higness's blade immunity thing, i don't know how to quantify that either. I did read, however, that it allowed Izayoi to not die from Kuro Usagi's spear attack which in the LN is said to destroy an entire galaxy or something when he grabbed it. Though idk if he grabbed it by it's blade or not and just merely the shaft since i'm still far behind it at just Vol 5.
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I don't remember what the Sun Armor does again. And what immunity to all attacks? If you mean the blade thing again, CP just literally explained why that would be a NLF so no.
Depends on who can compile all of Azi's powers and what his actual tiering would be like. All i know is that stat-wise, he's pretty much far superior to Izayoi and His Highness, the latter being Izayoi's equal or something like that.
Depends on who can compile all of Azi's powers and what his actual tiering would be like. All i know is that stat-wise, he's pretty much far superior to Izayoi and His Highness, the latter being Izayoi's equal or something like that.
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Just off of a quick thought, there's two ways to handle it. Keys with and without Another cosmology which would be star level and hyperversal respectively. Since he soloed a shit ton of gods. And gods are capable of creating places like little garden where infinite multiverses are stacked like particles. Honestly their multiverses are closer to hyperverses due to them containing universes which are multiverses due to time streams.
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Sun armor is something Black rabbit will obtain and it's said to be invulnerable, but can't be used with the spear of Indra and vice verse.
Well, Azi is ridiculously above everyone and has conceptual immortality which mean you can only seal him and not kill him.(at least not with conventional means).
Than this weird abiltie that makes sure his possibilities of victory can never under any circumstances go under 50% and than like power mimicry with power nullification etc...
That said it's something to deal with later.
Say anyone knows what tier would be destroying 1/3 of the Mondaji world?
Well, Azi is ridiculously above everyone and has conceptual immortality which mean you can only seal him and not kill him.(at least not with conventional means).
Than this weird abiltie that makes sure his possibilities of victory can never under any circumstances go under 50% and than like power mimicry with power nullification etc...
That said it's something to deal with later.
Say anyone knows what tier would be destroying 1/3 of the Mondaji world?
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Hypervesal? This is gonna require a good deal of proof.
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What CP said, Cynical. Multiverse+ Mondaiji is something i can believe in AT THE MOST.
Tier 1 Mondaiji, however....that's something that needs a lot of evidence to pull it off here considering what this wikias tiering system deals with once you hit that rank level.
@Blanked: Still grounds to have it as a NLF. You literally should read what CP just told you about that with the blade thing cause the Sun Armor part you just shortly explained applies to that too...
Tier 1 Mondaiji, however....that's something that needs a lot of evidence to pull it off here considering what this wikias tiering system deals with once you hit that rank level.
@Blanked: Still grounds to have it as a NLF. You literally should read what CP just told you about that with the blade thing cause the Sun Armor part you just shortly explained applies to that too...
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When it comes to the rating for what i understood they shouldn't go beyond star lvl. More precisely Izayoi tops at star lvl at max. There are ton of statments that keep confirming it over and over again.
@Cross i agree it's NLF my question is how would we handle that? At least the impenetrability limits on weapons only. Honestly this verse has a lot of NLF in it.
Do we have the size of little garden?
@Cross i agree it's NLF my question is how would we handle that? At least the impenetrability limits on weapons only. Honestly this verse has a lot of NLF in it.
Do we have the size of little garden?
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@Blanked Nothing besides that it's infinite and is composed of infinite multiverses the size of particles.
Anyway, It certainly makes sense why most would only believe multiversal+ at most. Mondaiji's cosmology is weird and mentioned in very spread out portions of the series.
The main reason I could argue hyperversal is cosmology size. IIRC the way it goes is timestreams (effectively universes in most series) > Universes which contain countless time streams > multiverses > Little Garden.
Gods created little garden. Azi is capable of soloing millions of Gods. For reference the Gods are 3 digits. Azi is a 1 digit.
Anyway, It certainly makes sense why most would only believe multiversal+ at most. Mondaiji's cosmology is weird and mentioned in very spread out portions of the series.
The main reason I could argue hyperversal is cosmology size. IIRC the way it goes is timestreams (effectively universes in most series) > Universes which contain countless time streams > multiverses > Little Garden.
Gods created little garden. Azi is capable of soloing millions of Gods. For reference the Gods are 3 digits. Azi is a 1 digit.
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@Schro i have read the part so yeah it's true the effect of the weapons don't damage him ethier.
And it's called impenetrable so it's pretty obvious lol.
@Cynical infinite multiverses? I am getting pretty weird feeling here. I have read it but don't remember that part... What volume and who says it if you remember?
And it's called impenetrable so it's pretty obvious lol.
@Cynical infinite multiverses? I am getting pretty weird feeling here. I have read it but don't remember that part... What volume and who says it if you remember?
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"Hearing Izayoi's straightforward question, even Mikado Tokuteru could only laugh bitterly. True, this was not something that could be asked upright. Although he was the King of Gods that stood above countless Divine Beings, that was not the case in this Little Garden that was piled up by countless multiverses like particles."
Volume 12 I believe.
"Hearing Izayoi's straightforward question, even Mikado Tokuteru could only laugh bitterly. True, this was not something that could be asked upright. Although he was the King of Gods that stood above countless Divine Beings, that was not the case in this Little Garden that was piled up by countless multiverses like particles."
Volume 12 I believe.
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Cynical, that's an at least 2-A size multiverse. Well more like it as far as Everlasting told me months ago about that so...yeah.
If it's truly Tier 1 in any way, there has to be explicit statements of higher dimensions in Mondaiji to even go for Tier 1....AFAIk....
If it's truly Tier 1 in any way, there has to be explicit statements of higher dimensions in Mondaiji to even go for Tier 1....AFAIk....
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I will have to re read volume 12 cause that statement has no sense whatsoever.
Little garden was supposed to be size of a star and we have tons of star AP statements throughout the series so taking one that contradicts everything so heavily sounds iffy.
If everyone already agreed on it though i won't bother.
Little garden was supposed to be size of a star and we have tons of star AP statements throughout the series so taking one that contradicts everything so heavily sounds iffy.
If everyone already agreed on it though i won't bother.
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My bad, corssverse.
And as far as little garden, yes and no. The world of little garden is star sized but it's used interchangeably for the world and little garden as a whole which is where the multiverses and stuff come from.
And as far as little garden, yes and no. The world of little garden is star sized but it's used interchangeably for the world and little garden as a whole which is where the multiverses and stuff come from.
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@Cynical:
It's fine. But last one on it, yes there has to be explicit statements of Higher dimensions in Mondaiji for it to ever be Hyperversal. But since I've never heard of any having one lest I missed any that which I doubt, it won't go any higher than 2-A.
As for powers, could I ask if that's something you can try to look over as well over time?
It's fine. But last one on it, yes there has to be explicit statements of Higher dimensions in Mondaiji for it to ever be Hyperversal. But since I've never heard of any having one lest I missed any that which I doubt, it won't go any higher than 2-A.
As for powers, could I ask if that's something you can try to look over as well over time?
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Yeah I don't mind looking over powers. Some things are pretty easy like Azi's power replication and adaptive immunity. Others are a bit harder to work with like Yo's Genome Tree. But it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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Alrighty, take your time on it when you have the time to start.
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Sorry if i reply to this thread lately.
The problem of Mondaiji verse is, mostly the translation from volume 1 to 10 are miserably horrible in terms of feats, even the current translator and manager on Mondaiji verse Frozen admitted that there are lots of errors in them, and he will not fix it because there are too many of them, so you can barely find any accurate feat in it. Plus these translation are already outdated as with the previous translators on BT left the works for unknown reason.
Not a good idea for those who want to make Mondaiji profiles here. Unless someone who have enough knowledge about Japanese and Chinese with effort and patience to revamp them one by one.
The problem of Mondaiji verse is, mostly the translation from volume 1 to 10 are miserably horrible in terms of feats, even the current translator and manager on Mondaiji verse Frozen admitted that there are lots of errors in them, and he will not fix it because there are too many of them, so you can barely find any accurate feat in it. Plus these translation are already outdated as with the previous translators on BT left the works for unknown reason.
Not a good idea for those who want to make Mondaiji profiles here. Unless someone who have enough knowledge about Japanese and Chinese with effort and patience to revamp them one by one.
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I have heard about that problem, yes.
Which is also why, unless someone really DID have knowledge onto doing the whole thing, that someone can do this at this point cause I'm literally out of this one now.
Which is also why, unless someone really DID have knowledge onto doing the whole thing, that someone can do this at this point cause I'm literally out of this one now.
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Azi is 3rd digit demon lord, but because of his Last Trial existences and his God Killer abilitity which could destroy the very existences of God across the all time lines and story and his conseptual immortality his undefeatable for his own verse unless it was human hero.
The most powerfull being of Mondaiji now is End Emptiness - 1-digit being Demon Lord. He is strongest God-Killer and he is concept of end of all timelines
here the respect thread where all proofs and right translation is there.
The most powerfull being of Mondaiji now is End Emptiness - 1-digit being Demon Lord. He is strongest God-Killer and he is concept of end of all timelines
here the respect thread where all proofs and right translation is there.
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Well it actually the part of Mondaiji lore.
Any mythological creature could be defeated in form of trial. For example use Gift Game that reproduct the Myth story and method to kill God or Star Spirit.
In our real world in many myths supernatural beings was been defeated by humans. And in Mondaiji the same
Any mythological creature could be defeated in form of trial. For example use Gift Game that reproduct the Myth story and method to kill God or Star Spirit.
In our real world in many myths supernatural beings was been defeated by humans. And in Mondaiji the same
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Azi is a 1-Digit Demon King and pre-powered up Azi is 3-Digit. Both he and End Emptiness with Dystopia are the strongest LE, all of them are branded by Little Garden as "un-defeatable Demon Kings". Only 3 of them are the strongest beings of whole Mondaiji verse so far.Vergil Lucifer said:
There are 2 types of God-Slayers: The Beasts of The End which represent the end of the world, for example is volcanic caldera, however they are unrelated with history of mankind and they can be defeated or sealed by Divine Spirits for a long time. The 2nd one are Last Trials of Humanity which related with deployment of history of mankind (Ex: The Perpeptual Motion Machine that born Azi and Dystopia). They have clear goal that will bring destruction to all mankind along with the World of Little Garden and Divine Spirits. They will fought eternally unless one side is perished.
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Where it was been stated that Azi is 1-Digit? Then he appeared in Volume 7 he was 3-digit (he named that himself):
Carrying that on the back of the top half of his body, the white three-headed dragon spoke out his name.
"I am a 3-Digit of Little Garde Òâ╗One of the Gods of Zoroastrianism - Demon Lord A┼¥i Dak─üha, I've pleaded that I will spend this life of my as the Demon Lord, who accepted the Flag and the Third Digit from the Sect Master, as the incarnation of Fugutaiten* itself.
Carrying that on the back of the top half of his body, the white three-headed dragon spoke out his name.
"I am a 3-Digit of Little Garde Òâ╗One of the Gods of Zoroastrianism - Demon Lord A┼¥i Dak─üha, I've pleaded that I will spend this life of my as the Demon Lord, who accepted the Flag and the Third Digit from the Sect Master, as the incarnation of Fugutaiten* itself.
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The 3-Digit is just only his original status, his power are ranked at 1-Digit, same with Dystopia and End EmptinessVergil Lucifer said:
If Azi is just 3-Digit, then how can he gave middle finger to Divine Amry and even Shiroyasha cannot kill him?
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Moreover, isn't it kinda obvious in this?
"......I'm afraid so. In the past, Azi Dahaka wasn't such an immensely powerful Demon King. Being such as the Juniten or "Great Sage Equals to Heaven" of Orient Pantheons, the Goddess of War or the King of Death of Occident Pantheons were his equals. But, came a certain day --- several Demon Kings under the command of Azi Dahaka, suddenly had their Spritual Essence expanded. Each of them, was strong enough to repel millions of pantheons alone."
"Millions of pantheons, you say!?"
"......I'm afraid so. In the past, Azi Dahaka wasn't such an immensely powerful Demon King. Being such as the Juniten or "Great Sage Equals to Heaven" of Orient Pantheons, the Goddess of War or the King of Death of Occident Pantheons were his equals. But, came a certain day --- several Demon Kings under the command of Azi Dahaka, suddenly had their Spritual Essence expanded. Each of them, was strong enough to repel millions of pantheons alone."
"Millions of pantheons, you say!?"
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Because of the Avesta and his super hax immortality + ability of God Slayer. By pure power he is only 3-digit and stated to be equal to Indra who is 3-digit
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Arent Last Embryo inherently 1 digit beings
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Where's his Khvarenah? Avesta isn't only his strongest Gift.Vergil Lucifer said:
Nope, he's only equal to Indra and Divine Army only back then. The part above clearly stated that one day Azi along with other Ancient Demon Kings gained power-up so ridiculous that even one of them can whoop the ass of millions of pantheons. Because of two seals on his body that his physical strength got reduced but that doesn't even a serious thing if he have Avesta and Khvarenah. Even Shiroyasha have to use suicide attack just to seal him in LG along with herself for all eternity, how can he still equal with Indra?
Also in LE 4, it already confirmed that Azi and Dystopia, End Emptiness are the only 3 LE beings that branded by Little Garden as "Undefeatable". The reason why they - the 3-Digit Gods like Indra can fought with LE because they have Host Master Authority, in fact, they were never able to defeat them by pure power head-on, because of that they have to use Host Master Authority with enforce trials in order to deal with them. In short, Host Master Authority = Plot Armor Device. That's it
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I work on this wiki as well and I also created this alongside the owner of this wiki:
http://omniversal-battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Yo_Kasukabe
And the owner of the wiki created this:
http://omniversal-battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Azi_Dahaka
And this:
http://omniversal-battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Izayoi_Sakamaki
And...this:
http://omniversal-battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Problem_Children_are_Coming_from_Another_World%2C_aren't_they%3F#Mondaiji
And i can tell you that they are all right based on immense supervision.
http://omniversal-battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Yo_Kasukabe
And the owner of the wiki created this:
http://omniversal-battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Azi_Dahaka
And this:
http://omniversal-battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Izayoi_Sakamaki
And...this:
http://omniversal-battlefield.wikia.com/wiki/Problem_Children_are_Coming_from_Another_World%2C_aren't_they%3F#Mondaiji
And i can tell you that they are all right based on immense supervision.
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