MLP vs. HST

[Xenomorphios]

I think that reality warping at Discord's level can ignore durability to a certain extent (he might be able to even beat solar system level characters with his hax abilities since we just never seen him serious)

 

[Fireboy2000]

how can they beat lille or yhwach in 1 vs 1

 

[Pikachu942]

Lille doesn't have very good durability and Discord's reality warping can ignore intangibility so he can easily defeat him due to superior speed.

Yhwach is a bit trickier me thinks. The reality warping with greater speed strategy might still work, but Yhwach's powers are very potent. I can see Starlight, Tirek & Discord teaming up on him at once in order to defeat him if need be. Mainly Starlight & Discord though, their hax is kinda silly now.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Looking at the stats, MLP gets one-shoted by a God Tier Naruto character. Discord has never shown the ability to reality warp someone with Moon level durability, NLF.

That's not remotely how it works. Reality Warping completely ignores durability, pure and simple.

 

[Pikachu942]

What Everlasting said.

Anyways, what we have decided so far:

MLP gets through One Piece and most of Naruto & Bleach due to superior speed and amazing hax. God tier Naruto & Bleach is still being discussed.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

What Everlasting said.
Anyways, what we have decided so far:

MLP gets through One Piece and most of Naruto & Bleach due to superior speed and amazing hax. God tier Naruto & Bleach is still being discussed.

This. I actually think that Yhwach has the best chance of surviving here. It's him having to deal with those like Starlight, Discord, and others like them that i'm a bit iffy about(though i'm betting that he loses too based on what has been stated above).

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Bleach top tiers are sub-relativistic. Pretty sure they blitz before MLP can use their devastating Hax.

 

[Pikachu942]

Yes but most strong MLP characters have reactions that are straight up Relativistic (at least 40% the Speed of Light or so), which is huge for them, as they don't necessarily have to outspeed them in movement to beat them due to quicker reactions and thus being quicker on the draw with their hax.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Wait, what? That was in their profile? In that case I retract my argument.

 

[Pikachu942]

Yeah, the reactions bit might not be in all of their profiles though so I'll probably have to go back and add them. Will also have to fix up Discord's page a bit since he has a lot of Unknowns which shouldn't be there

 

[Zerzavyx98]

Serious Discord sounds very scary, he's never been serious in the show and look what he's done already. Imagine an actual serious Discord, he could do god knows what O_O
Also, remember just about everybody on the MLP side will be faster and be able to dodge just about every attack thrown at them, Bleach being the only one even comparable in speed though still lose out in reactions. With this speed advantage, they can likely utilize their hax faster than that of any on the HST. I think that's an important factor in deciding the victor of this battle.

lol Naruverse has way more faster chacters


btw which verses have faster combat speed?


can these ponies instantly jump through time or travel across the universe, or do they charge up?

 

[UncleSpaceman]

What Everlasting said.
Anyways, what we have decided so far:

MLP gets through One Piece and most of Naruto & Bleach due to superior speed and amazing hax. God tier Naruto & Bleach is still being discussed.

This. I actually think that Yhwach has the best chance of surviving here. It's him having to deal with those like Starlight, Discord, and others like them that i'm a bit iffy about(though i'm betting that he loses too based on what has been stated above).

Yhwach can see the future, and is all-seeing. Everything that he sees is powerless before him, furthermore all abilities he sees become his allies. Yhwach solo's MLP imo.

 

[Xenomorphios]

There is only one problem with Discord, he never died or got injured by the EoH (he just turned into stone), His Durability would still be unknown

 

[The_Everlasting]

What Everlasting said.
Anyways, what we have decided so far:

MLP gets through One Piece and most of Naruto & Bleach due to superior speed and amazing hax. God tier Naruto & Bleach is still being discussed.

This. I actually think that Yhwach has the best chance of surviving here. It's him having to deal with those like Starlight, Discord, and others like them that i'm a bit iffy about(though i'm betting that he loses too based on what has been stated above).

Yhwach can see the future, and is all-seeing. Everything that he sees is powerless before him, furthermore all abilities he sees become his allies. Yhwach solo's MLP imo.

You do realize that's the biggest NLF right? Besides, doesn't Almighty only work on Reiatsu-based abilities?

 

[Pikachu942]

Naruto's character IIRC are in the Mach 2k or so range at best, while MLP has characters in the Mach 8k range at best with roughly Mach 373k reaction time (not to mention Pinkie's Filli-Second speed which is the speed of light but she is irrelevant to the battle). Most relevant characters have around Mach 1.5k-Mach 3k though, with only Rainbow Powered Mane 6 possessing the Mach 8k speed. However, their reactions are more than enough.

Discord can do his Reality warping without even paying attention super casually or by just a snap of his fingers. Starlight was able to do the time spell with ease. They hardly ever need to charge up for any spells beyond times where Twilight was learning a new one, but the show is far past that now.

 

[UncleSpaceman]

Looking at the stats, MLP gets one-shoted by a God Tier Naruto character. Discord has never shown the ability to reality warp someone with Moon level durability, NLF.

That's not remotely how it works. Reality Warping completely ignores durability, pure and simple.

Regardless, MLP God Tiers are MHS. Naruto God Tiers are MHS+, Yhwach is sub-relatvisitic. Any one of them, one-shot blitz's MLP.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

It really is amusing how many people came into this not knowing the MLP god tiers are relativistic.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Looking at the stats, MLP gets one-shoted by a God Tier Naruto character. Discord has never shown the ability to reality warp someone with Moon level durability, NLF.

That's not remotely how it works. Reality Warping completely ignores durability, pure and simple.

Regardless, MLP God Tiers are MHS. Naruto God Tiers are MHS+, Yhwach is sub-relatvisitic. Any one of them, one-shot blitz's MLP.

Relativistic, actually.

 

[The_Everlasting]

It really is amusing how many people came into this not knowing the MLP god tiers are relativistic.

Very, very true. Though, to be fair, it's missing from some of their profiles, though Pikachu942 and WeeklyBattles are gonna fix them up soon from what I've heard.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Discord can do his Reality warping without even paying attention super casually or by just a snap of his fingers. Starlight was able to do the time spell with ease. They hardly ever need to charge up for any spells beyond times where Twilight was learning a new one, but the show is far past that now.

I'm also gonna point out that Discord used his reality warping to straight up juggle the sun and the moon. I'm not saying this directly translates to AP (hell, I'm the one who downgraded him), but I don't doubt it'd work on a couple of moon level fighters.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Very, very true. Though, to be fair, it's missing from some of their profiles, though Pikachu942 and WeeklyBattles are gonna fix them up soon from what I've heard.

Just make sure they link the calc in question.

Also, as I said before, characters like Yhwach, Kaguya, Hagoromo, etc have the best chance, but I'm not sure which side I'm taking, yet.

 

[UncleSpaceman]

What Everlasting said.
Anyways, what we have decided so far:

MLP gets through One Piece and most of Naruto & Bleach due to superior speed and amazing hax. God tier Naruto & Bleach is still being discussed.

This. I actually think that Yhwach has the best chance of surviving here. It's him having to deal with those like Starlight, Discord, and others like them that i'm a bit iffy about(though i'm betting that he loses too based on what has been stated above).

Yhwach can see the future, and is all-seeing. Everything that he sees is powerless before him, furthermore all abilities he sees become his allies. Yhwach solo's MLP imo.

You do realize that's the biggest NLF right? Besides, doesn't Almighty only work on Reiatsu-based abilities?

Yhwach is Moon Level, so at minimum the limits of his power would be Moon Level. The God Tiers of MLP are Mountain Level, they are well below the limit of Yhwachs power... Yhwach explicitly said "all abilities".

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Yhwach is not planet lvl....

 

[Pikachu942]

Well actually, the most god of god tiers, Tantabus, might be Country Level, but it was so under-developed in its episode.

Either way, his DC won't mean anything when Discord turns him into milk or Starlight sends him to a time or place where he cannot possibly return

 

[UncleSpaceman]

Yhwach is not planet lvl....

His profile says he is...

 

[LordAizenSama]

the hst lolstomps. why the spite..

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Well actually, the most god of god tiers, Tantabus, might be Country Level, but it was so under-developed in its episode.

Tantabus might be planetary or higher via hype.

The problem is that not only do we not know its max power/upper limits, but it's technically not even real. At least it never became so.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

He's only possibly planet lvl it's not established yet he actually is and even if he was why would that matter his opponent is a reality warper durability won't help

 

[UncleSpaceman]

Well actually, the most god of god tiers, Tantabus, might be Country Level, but it was so under-developed in its episode.
Either way, his DC won't mean anything when Discord turns him into milk or Starlight sends him to a time or place where he cannot possibly return

Did you read what i posted, Discord & Starlight's powers would be useless against Yhwach...

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

the hst lolstomps.

Far, far from it, my friend.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

I agree HST wins but only due to sheer numbers given that MLP has a relativistic reality warper.But even so he'd be caught in Mugen tsukuyomi either way

 

[LordAizenSama]

the hst lolstomps.

Far, far from it, my friend.

how do they have even a slim chance ot stopping Yhwach Or Aizen bruuh. the speed/dc/hax advantage is real, what could they possibly have to make this close when from what i see, is a possible country level pony

 

[UncleSpaceman]

He's only possibly planet lvl it's not established yet he actually is and even if he was why would that matter his opponent is a reality warper durability won't help

You should re-read the whole post, i was explaining Yhwach's almighty, then Everlasting said NLF. I was saying MLP is well below the limits of Yhwachs power.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

how do they have even a slim chance ot stopping Yhwach Or Aizen bruuh. the speed/dc/hax advantage is real, what could they possibly have to make this close when from what i see, is a possible country level pony

DC advantage yes. By a looooot.

The HST is way outclassed in speed. The MLP god tiers are relativistic.

Hax is debatable. Discord probably has better hax than everyone in the HST save for maybe like...Yhwach, Kaguya, and a few others.

 

[Pikachu942]

Well, despite all the arguments, I think we can all agree on one thing...

Poor One Piece

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

You should re-read the whole post, i was explaining Yhwach's almighty, then Everlasting said NLF. I was saying MLP is well below the limits of Yhwachs power.

Alright then.

 

[The_Everlasting]

He's only possibly planet lvl it's not established yet he actually is and even if he was why would that matter his opponent is a reality warper durability won't help

You should re-read the whole post, i was explaining Yhwach's almighty, then Everlasting said NLF. I was saying MLP is well below the limits of Yhwachs power.

It's an NLF because it's silly to assume he can replicate all powers.

 

[UncleSpaceman]

He's only possibly planet lvl it's not established yet he actually is and even if he was why would that matter his opponent is a reality warper durability won't help

You should re-read the whole post, i was explaining Yhwach's almighty, then Everlasting said NLF. I was saying MLP is well below the limits of Yhwachs power.

It's an NLF because it's silly to assume he can replicate all powers.

Yhwach isn't really "replicating" powers, he's making them his allies.

Regardless, replicating is only one part of it, all powers become powerless before him

 

[LordAizenSama]

^hes more than capable to replicate any ability shown in here, when he could do that to ichibei

 

[Pikachu942]

Again, it really isn't gonna matter when Yhwach seizes to be alive due to being chocolate milk or is sent to a far off distant time or place with no hope of return before he can even react.