Minor Elden Ring Addition

[SilentLyfe]

So the DLC has been out for a month, and are a lot of new stuff to be added. But for now I want to start small. One of the new items, the Surging Frenzied Flame, states in its description that "Spirits are eternal, and yet frenzied flame melts them away regardless. No wonder the hornsent forbid the flame's use." The Abyssal Woods also reinforces it. This area of the DLC is full of frenzied enemies and if you try to summon Torrent who is a spirit, you will receive a message stating he is frightened and won't come out. Finally in the base game, the Frenzied Flame ending, which has The Lands Between covered in frenzied flame, causes Torrent to be killed in the aftermath as shown when Melina picks up his ring and it dissolves in her hand.

From these, I believe Frenzied Flame users should get Soul Manipulation for being able to destroy spirits with their flames. Currently Shabriri and Vyke appear to be the only profiles who have Frenzied incantations, but any future profiles who use it such as the Tarnished should get it as well.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I agree with this.

 

[Dalesean027]

that's fine

 

[Chritin]

Sounds good to me

 

[NARONG_SUVAN]

Should this get immortal type 4 nagation as well?

After all torrent can revive sometime after its die

 

[SilentLyfe]

Should this get immortal type 4 nagation as well?

After all torrent can revive sometime after its die

I think so? I’m unsure if he actually dies or is just unsummoned.

 

[NARONG_SUVAN]

I think so? I’m unsure if he actually dies or is just unsummoned.

Spirits are eternal <- I think this Implies that sprit are immortal In someway or form

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Spirits are eternal <- I think this Implies that sprit are immortal In someway or form

I think it's "spirits will never cease to be but this flame is an exception to that since it bypasses its eternity"

 

[SilentLyfe]

Bump

 

[Qawsedf234]

I agree with the OP.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Straightforward enough. Chaos/Frenzied Flame should also get Deconstruction if it hasn't already, since it's main thing is melting all things physical and metaphysical down, destroying all division, and reverting the world back to the One Great.

"Burn the Erdtree to the ground, and incinerate all that divides and distinguishes.
Ahhh, may chaos take the world!
May chaos take the world!"
- Shabriri

"All that there is came from the One Great.
Then came fractures, and births, and souls.
But the Greater Will made a mistake.
Torment, despair, affliction... every sin, every curse.
Every one, born of the mistake.
And so, what was borrowed must be returned.
Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame.
Until all is One again."
- Hyetta

 

[SilentLyfe]

Bump

 

[SilentLyfe]

Bump

 

[Planck69]

Seems fine to me.

 

[SilentLyfe]

Alright. Since I have enough agreements I’ll apply this when I get home.

 

[SilentLyfe]

Made the changes. This can be closed.