Minor Arceus Additions

[StrymULTRA]

Keep in mind, im fine with the Avatars being 3-D and not necessarily saying they are 4-D outside their true forms. I just want an explanation for why, because right now im genuinely not understanding how a natural inhabitant of a higher D world is not physically the same dimensionality.

Entering one momentarily =/= not being higher D? I can buy that. But when naturally living there and still not being dimensionally relative to it? Thats where im lost.

Mostly because fiction doesen't respect much the """regular""" definitions of HDE (see in DBH where Demigra can live in the Crack of Time, which is 4D, but yet he is 3D, or Archie Knuckes, who can exist in a 5D space, yet is still 3D), and varies from verse to verse. For a safer assumption, existing in an higher dimension =/= being higher dimensional unless the verse directly states so.

 

[Antvasima]

This seems fine to me.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'll add the accepted stuff in 1-2 hours

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. I will unlock the Arceus page. Tell me here when you are done.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Mostly because fiction doesen't respect much the """regular""" definitions of HDE (see in DBH where Demigra can live in the Crack of Time, which is 4D, but yet he is 3D, or Archie Knuckes, who can exist in a 5D space, yet is still 3D), and varies from verse to verse. For a safer assumption, existing in an higher dimension =/= being higher dimensional unless the verse directly states so.

Fair enough then.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Thank you. I will unlock the Arceus page. Tell me here when you are done.

Done, and added all the missing categories

 

[NeoZex6399]

Arceus has become a very big llama lately.

 

[GyroNutz]

So, in this thread it was agreed upon that Arceus has every ability in the verse, upscaling from various Pokémon. But the profile is still missing a few abilities. (There are probably others, but these are the ones I could think of)

It was agreed that Arceus has the ability of every Pokemon. Dark Matter hardly qualifies.

 

[theultimate5105]

It was agreed that Arceus has the ability of every Pokemon. Dark Matter hardly qualifies.

Every ability in the verse

 

[GyroNutz]

Every ability in the verse

"Within the newborn spirit, time and space were intertwined as one. People and Pokemon too were but the same presence."

It's the abilities of all Pokemon, similar to Mew.

 

[NeoZex6399]

And humans*

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

To be fair, I don't see why Dark Matter wouldn't qualify. Pokemon, Human, or not, Dark Matter's origins isn't something independent from the rest of the multiverse.

Everything in Pokemon is Arceus, which should include him.

 

[NeoZex6399]

I don't feel very comfortable about the avatar having Dark Matter's abilities, I think if it has to be applied it should be only for the Original spirit.

 

[GyroNutz]

I think it's fairly clear in Pokemon SMD that at least Arceus' avatar is very much separate from Dark Matter.

 

[NeoZex6399]

Yeah.
PMD: Sky still is the best PMD in my opinion.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I don't feel very comfortable about the avatar having Dark Matter's abilities, I think if it has to be applied it should be only for the Original spirit.

Why? The avatar is the one that displays the use of moves Arceus doesn't naturally learn game wise, and using powers from it's creations.

What makes Dark Matter a special case compared to the CT/LT, or even any pokemon/human?

 

[NeoZex6399]

I don't disagree with Arceus having access to all the moves and stuff (I'm sure you already know that.)
But knowing the role that Dark Matter plays in its game plus the fact that it has no type.... idk it feels pretty weird to me.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Is everything done here? If so, I can lock the thread.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

I don't think it is, but I could be wrong.