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Midora vs. HST

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HokageMangaVox said:
If speed is equal Midora has low chances of winning, Yhwach should be above him AP. He would use telepathy to inform everyone of his abilities, so they go all out and be a distraction. Meanwhile, he uses his powers to change the outcomes and his powers, while Kaguya prepares an Infinite Tsukuyumi with the fodders of their verses, and Yhwach been the only one here to match him, absorbs him with his powers and proceeds with his army to solo Toriko.
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How are they going to be a distraction when literally the only ones that even pose a challenge to him are Yhwach and Kaguya? The rest he just wipes out with Meteor Spice. Or just gobbling them up.

His range is planetary, as seen when he ate all the King's Feast thingies Acacia spawned. Hell, he can paralyze all of them with just his bloodlust alone, thus giving him a go for the kill with ease.
 
how good is midora's resistance against mental attacks? since the likes of aizen(probably) and itachi will begin with those and let others go for a direct fight.
 
EvilMegaCookie said:
HokageMangaVox said:
If speed is equal Midora has low chances of winning, Yhwach should be above him AP. He would use telepathy to inform everyone of his abilities, so they go all out and be a distraction. Meanwhile, he uses his powers to change the outcomes and his powers, while Kaguya prepares an Infinite Tsukuyumi with the fodders of their verses, and Yhwach been the only one here to match him, absorbs him with his powers and proceeds with his army to solo Toriko.
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How are they going to be a distraction when literally the only ones that even pose a challenge to him are Yhwach and Kaguya? The rest he just wipes out with Meteor Spice. Or just gobbling them up.
His range is planetary, as seen when he ate all the King's Feast thingies Acacia spawned. Hell, he can paralyze all of them with just his bloodlust alone, thus giving him a go for the kill with ease.
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There are characters that are intangible, and there are some that have immortality & Regen, as long as Yhwach can change the future, the most revelant ones wil be safe.
 
How are they going to be a distraction when literally the only ones that even pose a challenge to him are Yhwach and Kaguya? The rest he just wipes out with Meteor Spice. Or just gobbling them up.
His range is planetary, as seen when he ate all the King's Feast thingies Acacia spawned. Hell, he can paralyze all of them with just his bloodlust alone, thus giving him a go for the kill with ease.

There are characters that are intangible, and there are some that have immortality & Regen, as long as Yhwach can change the future, the most revelant ones wil be safe.

That is countered by Minority World and Imitation. Also not to mention Midora is able to copy all abilities as he did copy Joie's food luck according to Starjun.
 
Starkiller215 said:
How are they going to be a distraction when literally the only ones that even pose a challenge to him are Yhwach and Kaguya? The rest he just wipes out with Meteor Spice. Or just gobbling them up.
His range is planetary, as seen when he ate all the King's Feast thingies Acacia spawned. Hell, he can paralyze all of them with just his bloodlust alone, thus giving him a go for the kill with ease.
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There are characters that are intangible, and there are some that have immortality & Regen, as long as Yhwach can change the future, the most revelant ones wil be safe.
That is countered by Minority World and Imitation. Also not to mention Midora is able to copy all abilities as he did copy Joie's food luck according to Starjun.
That he then showed in action. Even point-blank melee attacks doesn't hit him. And then there is his Regenerationn.
 
Starkiller215 said:
How are they going to be a distraction when literally the only ones that even pose a challenge to him are Yhwach and Kaguya? The rest he just wipes out with Meteor Spice. Or just gobbling them up.
His range is planetary, as seen when he ate all the King's Feast thingies Acacia spawned. Hell, he can paralyze all of them with just his bloodlust alone, thus giving him a go for the kill with ease.
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There are characters that are intangible, and there are some that have immortality & Regen, as long as Yhwach can change the future, the most revelant ones wil be safe.
That is countered by Minority World and Imitation. Also not to mention Midora is able to copy all abilities as he did copy Joie's food luck according to Starjun.
Speed is equaled they will be able to dodge, besides the future is change by Yhwach constantly to where he never used his abilities on them. Yhwach becomes immune to abilities he sees in advanced with his future sight, so Midora's powers wont work him, and he can also shield them with his shadows as we saw his range extents through dimensions.
 
How are they going to be a distraction when literally the only ones that even pose a challenge to him are Yhwach and Kaguya? The rest he just wipes out with Meteor Spice. Or just gobbling them up.
His range is planetary, as seen when he ate all the King's Feast thingies Acacia spawned. Hell, he can paralyze all of them with just his bloodlust alone, thus giving him a go for the kill with ease.

There are characters that are intangible, and there are some that have immortality & Regen, as long as Yhwach can change the future, the most revelant ones wil be safe.That is countered by Minority World and Imitation. Also not to mention Midora is able to copy all abilities as he did copy Joie's food luck according to Starjun.
Speed is equaled they will be able to dodge, besides the future is change by Yhwach constantly to where he never used his abilities on them. Yhwach becomes immune to abilities he sees in advanced with his future sight, so Midora's powers wont work him, and he can also shield them with his shadows as we saw his range extents through dimensions.

Hungry Tongue does create invisible rifts that make them impossible to miss. Hungry Space: After making "invisible rifts of void" with his Hungry Tongue, Midora fills the void with his voracious Appetite Energy, creating a "Hungry Space" which consumes anything that touches it. When something have touched the "Hungry Space", Midora learns the taste of it, and can then direct the rifts of hunger directly onto his target.
 
Please don't quote large block of texts, guys. You can use the @Username to who you're talking to.
 
Starkiller215

Does it have feats to work even after been negated to where he never used it? Does it work on immortals and intangibles? Give me scans. Don' start this into NLF terretory.
 
@Hokage *sigh* You really like to downplay for Midora don't you? Beside that, the only reason why Joie is not even dead yet was due to his FL as he literally was erased from existence by Midora's Hungry Tongue. Beside that, his Food Luck plus Minority World can counter Yhwach's Almighty as I think about it.
 
Starkiller215 said:
@Hokage *sigh* You really like to downplay for Midora don't you? Beside that, the only reason why Joie is not even dead yet was due to his FL as he literally was erased from existence by Midora's Hungry Tongue. Beside that, his Food Luck plus Minority World can counter Yhwach's Almighty as I think about it.
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Scan for him been able to erased people from existence? I said NLF because it says to swallow "anything" which is NLF, he can't swallow Galuctus or Thanos because of NLF. Yhwach becomes immune to his powers the moment he sees them on the future, since there isn't to much difference in power between them. So it doesn't fall under NLF. Yhwach also has the option to change the future to where he never use them
 
Scan for him been able to erased people from existence? I said NLF because it says to swallow "anything" which is NLF, he can't swallow Galuctus or Thanos because of NLF. Yhwach becomes immune to his powers the moment he sees them on the future, since there isn't to much difference in power between them. So it doesn't fall under NLF. Yhwach also has the option to change the future to where he never use them

Here it is:
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RIP Joie
 
Here it is:
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RIP Joie

Nothing there subjects he can erase your existence, all it said was that he will erase his body and keep his memories. Given that the other guy survive he can't erase people's existence.
 
Nothing there subjects he can erase your existence, all it said was that he will erase his body and keep his memories. Given that the other guy survive he can't erase people's existence.

That was the most recent chapter and Midora is just slowly killing Joie.
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That was the most recent chapter and Midora is just slowly killing Joie.
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Erasing his body is not the same as removing someone's existence, you're taking the words out of context, which is not the same. He shouldn't even known he's been erased since that applies to his memories as well.
 
@Hokage Beside that, you do realize erasing him is like removing him from existence. Also Midora does have energy manipulation as well.
 
Starkiller215 said:
@Hokage Beside that, you do realize erasing him is like removing him from existence. Also Midora does have energy manipulation as well.
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Erasing once body is not the same as erasing once existence. If you get a part of your body erase like you see above, you still exist and you can still regen if you have that ability.

If you're existence is erase you will no longer exist and your ver existence will be remove from everyone's minds, because in the end you never existed. Given that fact, it isn't the case here, so he can't erase people from existence. (Just watch his power will revelad to be something that has to do with his cells, some cell deRegenerationn thing.)

Yhwach has energy manipulation as well + immunity to Midora's energy manipulation.
 
@Hokage I don't know how exactly you will assume that, but Yhwach doesn't have immunity to energy manipulation at all. Also it has nothing to do with his Gourmet cells, rather it has to do with Appetite energy.
 
Starkiller215 said:
@Hokage I don't know how exactly you will assume that, but Yhwach doesn't have immunity to energy manipulation at all. Also it has nothing to do with his Gourmet cells, rather it has to do with Appetite energy.
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Energy manipulation is an ability, an The Almighty's power is:

  • Omni-Precognition: Yhwach can see everything that is to occur from the present moment into the far-flung future. He can "know" everything that lies within that gaze. Rather than seeing a linear future, Yhwach observes all possible futures at once like countless grains of sand in the wind, and can thus act accordingly using the knowledge he has gained to anticipate and counter his opponents. However, Yhwach is unable to predict the actions of Mimihagi, the right hand of the Soul King.
  • Future Modification: Yhwach states that the true power of The Almighty is the ability to transform the future. He utilizes this power by setting up traps where he knows his opponents will be and attacking them before they can even begin their own attacks. He also uses this power to break Ichigo's Tensa Zangetsu and his hollow horn. He can also maneuver around any defense and countermeasure they use to protect themselves in order to facilitate his attacks. Also, by using this power, Yhwach states that all Bankai have already been destroyed in the future. He has also shown to be able to revive himself after death by rewriting the future to where he did not die.
  • Power Intuition: Any power of which he "knows" will become his ally.
    • Reactionary Power Immunity: That power will not only be unable to defeat him, but become unable to harm him in any way.
Yhwach becomes immune to energy manipulation, and any other power Midora throws at him. Since Yhwach will be able to activate his power, before Midora decides to attack him or locate him, in front of the three verses + Midora has no knowledge of his powers.
 
Energy manipulation is an ability, an The Almighty's power is:

  • Omni-Precognition: Yhwach can see everything that is to occur from the present moment into the far-flung future. He can "know" everything that lies within that gaze. Rather than seeing a linear future, Yhwach observes all possible futures at once like countless grains of sand in the wind, and can thus act accordingly using the knowledge he has gained to anticipate and counter his opponents. However, Yhwach is unable to predict the actions of Mimihagi, the right hand of the Soul King.
  • Future Modification: Yhwach states that the true power of The Almighty is the ability to transform the future. He utilizes this power by setting up traps where he knows his opponents will be and attacking them before they can even begin their own attacks. He also uses this power to break Ichigo's Tensa Zangetsu and his hollow horn. He can also maneuver around any defense and countermeasure they use to protect themselves in order to facilitate his attacks. Also, by using this power, Yhwach states that all Bankai have already been destroyed in the future. He has also shown to be able to revive himself after death by rewriting the future to where he did not die.
  • Power Intuition: Any power of which he "knows" will become his ally.
    • Reactionary Power Immunity: That power will not only be unable to defeat him, but become unable to harm him in any way.
Yhwach becomes immune to energy manipulation, and any other power Midora throws at him. Since Yhwach will be able to activate his power, before Midora decides to attack him or locate him, in front of the three verses + Midora has no knowledge of his powers.

Midora has reactive evolution plus Yhwach doesn't have knowledge of his powers or himself.
 
HST. Midora is strong, but he can't take all the Bleach, One Piece, and Naruto hax. Seriously, there are people that can one shot him if they touch him or get close to him. Aizen just needs to incapacitate him for 1 second and then it's over. Or just let the Sternritter, the Yonko( BM's crew is hax), and the god tiers of Naruto, take him out with teamwork. One Piece's top tiers are still nigh-featless though. They shouldn't be used until we get more feats. As it is now, the Yonko may be put at Country level by the end of this year and Continent level by the end of next year. Who would've thought that Bleach and especially Naruto would get as strong as they did. All Shonen's have that power creep. Wait until the god tier(s) of OP verse is/are revealed.
 
^aside from kaguyas BFR i dont think that midora would have anythign to fear from naruto chars, OP is the same, they have some powerful hax but wont be able to use it before being killed,

but bleach got massive power ups, the hax is almost unreal, ishidas antithesis alone will already kill midora, than thereis gerard who bascially cant die no matter what happens, than there is gremmy, lille, hscwalth, kisuke uruhara, aizen and his super illusions, ichibei and his super darkness and the most powerful being in the entire verse....ichigos child who oneshotted ywach :I
 
Here is what it is said for Midora: Powers and Abilities: Superhuman strength, speed, durability, agility and endurance, Reactive Evolution, Invisibility, Shapeshifting, Energy Manipulation, Molecular manipulation (his tongue devours everything down to the last atoms in its trajectory, which creates invisible rifts of void), Minority world (reversing the roles of the atoms functions making the unfavorable, favorable) and his Hungry Space (said invisible rifts filled with "unstoppable appetite"), able to create Emperor Ring (vortex that forms when mighty beasts known as 'Kings' meet each other, said space is untouchable by lower beings and is controlled by the laws of the creators), Regenerationn (High-Mid), resistance to motion manipulation (was unaffected in the slightest by Mohyan's motion control ability), Limited Probability Manipulation via Gourmet Food Luck (able to use it offensively by being able to attack without external influences, and defensively by deflecting incoming attacks), and Mimic Ability via Mirror Neurons (was able to mimic Ichiryuu's Minority World and Joa's Food Luck), Longevity
 
GreatestSin said:
^aside from kaguyas BFR i dont think that midora would have anythign to fear from naruto chars, OP is the same, they have some powerful hax but wont be able to use it before being killed,

but bleach got massive power ups, the hax is almost unreal, ishidas antithesis alone will already kill midora, than thereis gerard who bascially cant die no matter what happens, than there is gremmy, lille, hscwalth, kisuke uruhara, aizen and his super illusions, ichibei and his super darkness and the most powerful being in the entire verse....ichigos child who oneshotted ywach :I
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One Piece will get there, it has been getting upgrades recently.
 
Starkiller215 said:
I wonder how could they bypass Midora's regen.
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He get's infinite tsukyumi and sleeps forever, and Yhwach absorbs the rest of him since he would be the only one strong enough here to do so. Midora dies, and condemned his entire verse at the same time, Yhwach will just emerge with all of his powers.
 
Yeah if Midora ever wins this it'll be with extremely high difficulty. The full power of the HST is not to be underestimated so casually.

That is unless you're character is in the steller tiers or above.
 
Starkiller215 said:
@Hokage Food luck combined with Miniority World will countered the illusions.
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It can't if Yhwach is constantly changing the future to where he never activated them. Meaning, his powers are reverse to been off again. Food luck works more or less like the Balance which is Yhwach's right hand man, he can easily redirect that to his shield as well. Aizen can also caught Midora under illusions without him knowing and making activate a different power or use it in another way that will not benefit him, like he did with Yhwach, thanks to prep-almighty been caught under it. The HST can win easily, there are still a lot of characters powers, I'm not using. He can't win, with equaled speed.
 
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