MHS+ Speed Raiden Shogun and Element Electro (Genshin Impact)

[Furina003]

After seeing Raiden Shogun's profile here.
raises the question, why does the god of lightning have a slower speed than lightning itself? Something seems is wrong.
Raiden Shogun is the embodiment of lightning and when Raiden attacked Signora, Raiden changed his form into the lightning elemental itself.
Shouldn't the Raiden Shogun get a speed at least the same as lightning itself?
I also found several statements in the game, which stated that the electro element is the lightning element.

• The keqing mentioned had lightning speed

Isn't it clear here that Keqing uses the power of the electro element but it is still mentioned as lightning speed, which means the electro element is lightning itself

• Kairagi is stated to use the power of lightning

which means electro is lightning itself, because kairagi uses electro power here

• abys lector can command the lightning
• Electrical powers can make you lightning fast
• A tengu capable of shooting lightning arrows This can be done by tengu because tengu are able to manipulate electro-element
• electro samachurl uses electro power to summon lightning

actually there is still more that I can show, but I think this is enough. So my intention in showing this is to prove that the electro element in Genshin Impact is lightning itself.
which is proven that there is a complete connection between electro element and lightning, and characters who are able to use the electro element are also very often said to use the power of lightning itself.
There are also electro properties in Genshin that fulfill the actual lightning properties.

• can spread through water and cause disturbances to affected characters.
• Electro elements from electro regisven can be used for city electricity generation, where lightning in the real world also contains electrical energy which can be used to generate electricity.

In addition, Dehya and Tighnari were able to avoid lightning strikes from the sky

So the conclusion I draw here will start with a simple question, is the speed of 440,000 m/s only achieved by lightning from the sky? Meanwhile, the electro element in Genshin is capable of producing real lightning because it meets the criteria here, So the lightning that comes out of the Genshin character must be real lightning.
If we think that the lightning emitted by the Genshin character does not have lightning speed because it doesn't come from the sky. the same as: for example, we say someone is capable of emitting light but the light does not have the speed of light because it does not come from something capable of producing real light, even though the light meets the criteria for real light.
So in my opinion lightning will always have lightning speed if the lightning meets the criteria for genuine lightning, even though the lightning is not emitted from the sky. So just like the example I gave earlier, light will always have the speed of light if the criteria for light meet the criteria for actual light, even though the light does not come from something capable of producing light.

So MHS+ speed will be very appropriate for Raiden Shogun and some Genshin characters are able to use electro elements to make fast movements, such as Keqing and so on.

Maybe that's all for now, from what I've shown it might be used to consider changes in the speed of some characters in Genshin Impact atleast Massively Hypersonic+ because this is the average speed of lightning.

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[Furina003]

I've posted the thread. maybe there is something you want to convey

 

[Giannysmag]

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You should only bump after at least 12 hours of inactivity
Gonna comment when I get home but a lot of this was already discussed in this thread

 

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permission to tag @Woomica @Puppet43

I've posted the thread. maybe there is something you want to convey

Also tagging people as a normal user doesn't notify them, only mods can do that

 

[Furina003]

Also tagging people as a normal user doesn't notify them, only mods can do that

Ohhh oke thankyou for this information. And sory for my mistake

 

[Furina003]

You should only bump after at least 12 hours of inactivity
Gonna comment when I get home but a lot of this was already discussed in this thread

My discussion is different from what is discussed there, there only discusses lightning that comes from the sky which can get lightning speed, whereas here I discuss not only lightning that comes from the sky which will get lightning speed if the lightning meets the criteria for actual lightning.

You can read the conclusions from this thread, I have also discussed it in the thread here before, and it is recommended to create this thread.

 

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[GarrixianXD]

Lightning is only at 440000 m/s when it sky to ground thunder, which we only saw once when Raiden cast it in her character demo. We have never really seen those types of thundering scenes again which questions if it was even lightning cast in the first place. Electricity by default isn't considered lightning.

 

[Furina003]

Lightning is only at 440000 m/s when it sky to ground thunder, which we only saw once when Raiden cast it in her character demo. We have never really seen those types of thundering scenes again which questions if it was even lightning cast in the first place. Electricity by default isn't considered lightning.

why only lightning from the sky? Lightning itself is electricity itself. because it is formed by the release of electrostatic charges through the atmosphere between two electrically charged regions. That's why lightning can be used as energy to generate electricity, as I have explained in this thread.

In fiction anything can happen, what the Genshin characters emit is real electricity, Isn't this the same as someone who is able to emit light that meets the category of light? then the light will get the speed of light even though it does not come from an object that cannot produce light.
The electricity in Genshin meets the criteria for real electricity, even in the real world electricity is able to move this fast or this, So I think 440,000 m/s is a very suitable number for the case of Genshin, because this is an average speed where many numbers are inconsistent, because actually the speed of lightning/electricity does not have consistent numbers like light.

 

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[Furina003]

Is there anyone else who wants to share their opinion on this Genshin speed issue?

Doesn't that mean that Genshin speed should be able to be returned to MHS+?

 

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[GarrixianXD]

why only lightning from the sky? Lightning itself is electricity itself. because it is formed by the release of electrostatic charges through the atmosphere between two electrically charged regions. That's why lightning can be used as energy to generate electricity, as I have explained in this thread.

In fiction anything can happen, what the Genshin characters emit is real electricity, Isn't this the same as someone who is able to emit light that meets the category of light? then the light will get the speed of light even though it does not come from an object that cannot produce light.
The electricity in Genshin meets the criteria for real electricity, even in the real world electricity is able to move this fast or this, So I think 440,000 m/s is a very suitable number for the case of Genshin, because this is an average speed where many numbers are inconsistent, because actually the speed of lightning/electricity does not have consistent numbers like light.

Speed of electricity =/= speed of lightning

The speed of lightning comes from its notably high voltage and current. Electricity itself are physical phenomenon and variable itself. There is no definite speed for electricity.

 

[Furina003]

Speed of electricity =/= speed of lightning

The speed of lightning comes from its notably high voltage and current. Electricity itself are physical phenomenon and variable itself. There is no definite speed for electricity.

Yes, what I mean here is, why do we differentiate between electro elements in genshin impact and lightning? Meanwhile, the game itself often mentions that the electro element is lightning. which means electro in Genshin Impact and lightning are the same, only different in pronunciation. Moreover, the electro properties in Genshin already meet the properties of real lightning. If we think that electro element in genshin impact doesn't have the speed of lightning just because it doesn't come from the sky, it's the same as thinking that someone is capable of shooting light but that light doesn't have the speed of light even though the light already fulfills the true properties of light.

 

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The Electro Element also boosts soil fertility like lightning does.

 

[Furina003]

The Electro Element also boosts soil fertility like lightning does.

So, what do you think about this? You agree if electro element have speed of lightning?

 

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Most likely, but this isn’t enough to convince staff. My full opinion is more complicated than it should be and would clog a thread.

 

[Furina003]

Most likely, but this isn’t enough to convince staff. My full opinion is more complicated than it should be and would clog a thread.

Its okey, im only want know your opinion. Im waiting staff for evaluated about my thread. Im very forward for this.

 

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My opinions are more of a side effect of how I see Genshin as a whole, which I don’t even fully have down for myself yet. Would you be open to discussing them on discord?

 

[Furina003]

My opinions are more of a side effect of how I see Genshin as a whole, which I don’t even fully have down for myself yet. Would you be open to discussing them on discord?

Sure

 

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[GarrixianXD]

Yes, what I mean here is, why do we differentiate between electro elements in genshin impact and lightning? Meanwhile, the game itself often mentions that the electro element is lightning. which means electro in Genshin Impact and lightning are the same, only different in pronunciation. Moreover, the electro properties in Genshin already meet the properties of real lightning. If we think that electro element in genshin impact doesn't have the speed of lightning just because it doesn't come from the sky, it's the same as thinking that someone is capable of shooting light but that light doesn't have the speed of light even though the light already fulfills the true properties of light.

The real question should be why we should consider all electro-element phenomena as the speed of lightning. It's like comparing the speed of a grass and tree growing because they're the same element; dendro.

Anyway, Raiden genuinely did use the cloud-to-ground lightning once, so it seems logical to ply her electricity as fast as lightning. I'd agree with the CRT. Though, I disagree with the element of electro being at a speed of 440000 m/s at default, unless they are seen to use cloud-to-ground lightning.

 

[Furina003]

The real question should be why we should consider all electro-element phenomena as the speed of lightning. It's like comparing the speed of a grass and tree growing because they're the same element; dendro.

Anyway, Raiden genuinely did use the cloud-to-ground lightning once, so it seems logical to ply her electricity as fast as lightning. I'd agree with the CRT. Though, I disagree with the element of electro being at a speed of 440000 m/s at default, unless they are seen to use cloud-to-ground lightning.

yes, this is what I mean. okay I agree allogenes characters won't get lightning speed by using electro elements to increase their speed.

Except for Raiden shogun because when she was locked up by Signora he turned himself into an electro elemental itself.

Characters other than Raiden should get attack speed at lightning speed if they prove capable of creating lightning from the sky

 

[Saqphire]

I agree with Raiden and others having lightning speed stuff, it should be a case by case basis for each Electro user tho, like those who are described to use lightning/thunder should have the speed applied like users like Beidou, Keqing, Lisa, Raiden, Razor and others. People who scale to them or their attacks in lore should scale to it too and those who don't scale to people who use thunder or lightning (even those at this group who also use Electro) should have their parameters at electricity speed (can't think of an example rn tho)

 

[Furina003]

I agree with Raiden and others having lightning speed stuff, it should be a case by case basis for each Electro user tho, like those who are described to use lightning/thunder should have the speed applied like users like Beidou, Keqing, Lisa, Raiden, Razor and others. People who scale to them or their attacks in lore should scale to it too and those who don't scale to people who use thunder or lightning (even those at this group who also use Electro) should have their parameters at electricity speed (can't think of an example rn tho)

yes I also think like this

 

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