MHA: Lifting Strength Upgrades

[TheRustyOne]

Okay so this is going to be a smaller revision thread. But we have some lifting strength calculations that have been accepted which calls for some upgrades.

Flect Turn's Lifting Strength (Ignore Blog Title): 2211066.36 Tons of Force (Class G)

Edit: Made my own blog post of an updated version of the calc, taking into account the second crater that is made from the same kick.

Flect Turn's Lifting Strength: 21282169.446 Tons of Force (Class G)

This scales to 20% Izuku, not for kicking Flect, but being able to grapple with him and push him back in a physical clash.

However there is some scaling here that should be mentioned.

Nine (Restrained): In the second MHA movie Nine attempts to steal OFA and is able to hold 20% Izuku, who is clearly struggling but cannot break free.

Ryukyu: During the war she is able to stop and grab Shigaraki mid jump, who is stated to be moving faster than before. While earlier Shigaraki easily broke out of a hold from 30% with a small jump. Considering 30% was overpowered by a small movement while she stopped his jump dead on while he was pushing past his limits.

Should they scale to this value as well?

Also since we're here, there is also this calc for Sir Nighteye that places his Lifting Strength at Class K.

Would this be fine to apply or does anyone have any issues with this or the above?

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Agree with all, including Ryukyu and Nine scaling

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Cheers, yeah I agree

 

[Therefir]

Neutral on Nine, agree with everything else.

 

[TheRustyOne]

To give my own opinion.

It's the same as Therefir.

Neutral with Nine, but I'm alright with everything else.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Agree to everything.

As for Nine, I think it’s logical to assume he was fully restraining 20%. He blocked his kick then grabbed his head to take his Quirk, but Deku struggled the whole time, seemingly before the effects were even taking place though the process was pretty quick to start up.

I’d personally say that the likelihood that Nine restrained his full power rather than a small portion (due to the transfer process making Deku weaker) is quite high.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Flect: Class G (Push back against an axe kick from 20% Deku that caused a crater)

20% Izuku: Class G (Capable of grappling and pushing back Flect Turn)

Nine: Class G (Capable of restraining 20% Deku, who couldn't escape his grasp)

Ryukyu: Class G (Was able to stop Shigaraki's jump, when 30% Deku was casually overpowered by him)

Sir Nighteye: Class K (Can throw his Hyper-Density Seals with this much force)

This looks good?

 

[SuperStar]

I agree with everything

 

[Damage3245]

Flect Turn's Lifting Strength (Ignore Blog Title): 2211066.36 Tons of Force (Class G)

Does this really count as Lifting Strength?

By which I mean Flect's Quirk is still active at this point in the fight even if it has been weakened. I don't think Flect used solely physical strength to block Izuku's kick.

 

[TheRustyOne]

By which I mean Flect's Quirk is still active at this point in the fight even if it has been weakened. I don't think Flect used solely physical strength to block Izuku's kick.

Izuku is actually in contact with him. And he's blocking with his arms and pushes him away. With Reflect he doesn't do that. Since his movement isn't needed. He's starting to actually have to push back because Izuku's attacks are actually reaching him.

Not only that but the energy that hits the floor is energy that wasn't reflected, which means it went through Flect and broke the floor. He was shown to be physically affected by Izuku's attacks beforehand, being pushed back and the like. If Flect had reflected the energy the floor wouldn't be crushed.

This stuff only happens because Izuku was starting to overpower his Quirk. So yes this is indeed lifting strength for him.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Does this really count as Lifting Strength?

By which I mean Flect's Quirk is still active at this point in the fight even if it has been weakened. I don't think Flect used solely physical strength to block Izuku's kick.

It’s Flect‘s quirk blocking the entire blow’s damage on Him, but the floor getting wrecked under him is a physical blow which went past it, we see in the gifs above that Flect can be pushed back even when using his quirk, so yeah that’s him resisting the entire thing

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Does this really count as Lifting Strength?

By which I mean Flect's Quirk is still active at this point in the fight even if it has been weakened. I don't think Flect used solely physical strength to block Izuku's kick.

For this particular feat, Deku is actually touching Flect with his axe kick, meaning Flect is physically withstanding and pushing back against the force destroying the ground. His Reflect quirk just took the brunt of it and the calc is what was left over for Flect to block himself, which is Class G.

 

[Therefir]

By which I mean Flect's Quirk is still active at this point in the fight even if it has been weakened. I don't think Flect used solely physical strength to block Izuku's kick.

What is being calculated is the force that Flect Turn's body is being pressed/pushed against the ground by Deku's kick.

Since neither his arms nor his legs gave in to that force, this should scale to his lifting strength.

 

[Damage3245]

Not sure why four people needed to respond to the same point, but okay.

 

[Therefir]

Just wanted to give my own opinion of the feat.

 

[SuperStar]

Not sure why four people needed to respond to the same point, but okay.

Strength in numbers

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Do we need any more opinions?

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Not sure why four people needed to respond to the same point, but okay.

I just didn’t know the other three responded

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Flect: Class G (Push back against an axe kick from 20% Deku that caused a crater)

20% Izuku: Class G (Capable of grappling and pushing back Flect Turn)

Nine: Class G (Capable of restraining 20% Deku, who couldn't escape his grasp)

Ryukyu: Class G (Was able to stop Shigaraki's jump, when 30% Deku was casually overpowered by him)

Sir Nighteye: Class K (Can throw his Hyper-Density Seals with this much force)

This looks good?

I agree with this.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

I assume the changes can be added soon

 

[Therefir]

I have applied them.

 

[sanicspood]

I have applied them.

whyd u put the explanation in the joint training arc key? why not just put it in the Endeavor Agency Arc key and just say the JTA is not to weaker/as strong as the one from the endeavor agency?

 

[sanicspood]

Ryukyu: Class G (Was able to stop Shigaraki's jump, when 30% Deku was casually overpowered by him)

these scans are dead

 

[TheRustyOne]

Scans aren't dead, wiki scans just seem to do that for some reason. If you remove all parts of the url past the .png portion you might be able to see it.

Here is a direct link. 1 and 2.

Made my own blog post of an updated version of the calc, taking into account the second crater that is made from the same kick.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

It's official. Midoriya casually beats Ultra Instinct Goku in an arm wrestling match.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

It's official. Midoriya casually beats Ultra Instinct Goku in an arm wrestling match.

Thanks, I hate it.