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Meruem (HxH) vs All for One (MHA)

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Both are Low 7-B.

Meruem post-rose form but isn't poisoned. All for One is the one seen in his last battle vs All Might.
 
Isn't this just a stomp where Meruem stands there and they automatically die
 
"Nen crush" isn't a passive or something HxH characters immediately go for. Yes Meruem can easily kill with normal Nen stuff, but passive Nen crush just isn't a thing.
 
Its pseudo passive since HxH characters (especially the ants) flexs their aura when going to fight

Also, the first move Meruem did when he fought someone was leaking his aura in the form of Ren against Netero to scare the shit out of him
 
Name an example of Nen crush in-verse. Multiple times have characters used Nen in public places among non-Nen users and never did anything like a Nen crush happen. There have even been cases of Nen users attacking non-Nen users and not once did they do so by just using their aura.

He leaked his Ren against Netero because he didn't want to fight Netero, so he tried to intimidate him.
 
Its only really deadly when it involve the ants. Pitou's sheer presence after her birth was already scaring people and she didnt even know about the existence of Nen, she only had basic aura. Heck, her scaring aura is basically passive

Meruem is no different, especially him since he is ridiculously stronger than everyone on this key. He also scared the shit out of Welfin with just a glare, to the point that Welvin almost passed out
 
You only mentioned one of the supposed Nen crush abilities there, namely fear manipulation.

Something to note would be the fact that only Rammot and Pokkle were scared by Pitou's aura when she was born, implying it was because they, as Nen users, could see how powerful and malicious she was.
 
Nani? Nen Crush is Fearhax my dude, yes. You think people will be instantly killed by aura? No, its not like that. This is not Bleach

Yep, and people that uses Nen can block the fear aura with their own aura. If Nen users like them could still feel the sheer terror of Pitou, then it would be even worse against people that doesnt have Nen.
 
"Nen crush" isn't a passive thing that happens. It comes from an ability called Ren which needs to be intentionally activated.
 
Nen crush has consistently been treated as more than just fear manipulation.

Except that no one else in the nest was affected by Pitou's aura, only Rammot and Pokkle. Also Rammot and Pokkle wouldn't have had their defenses up against other auras. Pokkle was hiding, so he must have been using Zetsu and Rammot had his guard down. It clearly wasn't fear manipulation in that case.

Nen users can technically use a Nen crush, but they don't and it's certainly not passive.
 
It isn't fear manipulation because then it would've straight up crippled the other ants.

This was like a DBZ scenario where the opponent has such massive power that the characters are terrified by it. Not every instance of fear has to be because of aura.
 
Oblivion Of The Endless said:
Nani? Nen Crush is Fearhax my dude, yes. You think people will be instantly killed by aura? No, its not like that. This is not Bleach

Yep, and people that uses Nen can block the fear aura with their own aura. If Nen users like them could still feel the sheer terror of Pitou, then it would be even worse against people that doesnt have Nen.
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Nen isnt just fearhax, it kills you of overexertion if you continue lingering by it, either that or it drives you batshit crazy.

Yeah, but that only applies to Nen users with Ten. If you aren't a nen user / someone resistant to that then you're screwed
 
Point is, yes Nen crush is technically possible, but it's not something HxH characters normally use and it's certainly not passive.
 
No one is saying it's passive. You have to activate Ren, and the effects from that are pseudo-passive. However, Meruem starts off battle with a hostile show of Ren. Literally the first thing he did against Netero and he immediately used En to locate Knuckle and Meleoron. A Royal Guard's En drove a veteran Nen user to a mental breakdown, and Meruem is far stronger than the Royal Guards.
 
But yeah All Might doesn't resist anything except power absorption so Meruem stomps. At best Meruem won't get One for All when he eats him.
 
Say that to the dozens of matches that were declared stomps because of people thinking Nen crush is passive.

I already addressed the Meruem argument. He was trying to scare off Netero because he didn't want to fight him.

Ad for Pouf's thing. Knov was obviously using Zetsu considering he was on a stealth mission in enemy territory, so he wasn't protected against Pouf's aura.

Meruem's fear manipulation should work, but it isn't passive and it doesn't have to be his first move.

This match is one-sided, but not a stomp.
 
this does this only apply to somebody realtitive? or are we saying meruem can nen crush cell or something
 
WHYNAUT said:
I already addressed the Meruem argument. He was trying to scare off Netero because he didn't want to fight him.

Ad for Pouf's thing. Knov was obviously using Zetsu considering he was on a stealth mission in enemy territory, so he wasn't protected against Pouf's aura.
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No, Meruem showed his Ren because he was annoyed that Netero attacked him. But he was so powerful that his relatively mild show of Ren still unnerved Netero to the point where he doubled the distance between them.

Knov never made contact with Pouf's En. If he did, Pouf would've known he was there and Knov would have died. He had a mental breakdown just from LOOKING at it.
 
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