[Mega Man Starforce] Tiering and Speed Revisions

[AlloyAmi]

Don't worry, this isn't too crazy.

Tiering
Currently Geo's profile is rated at 4-B with this reasoning:

Attack Potency: Solar System level (Managed to defeat Apollo Flame and Sirius, the latter of which has control of the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way Galaxy, even while exhausted he managed to destroy Meteor G in Base form after it had all the EM power of Sirius transmitted to it

The main reasoning behind this tier is due to the assumption that the the Black Hole Sirius manipulates is Sagittarius A*. However this simply is just not the case and I organized the reasonings to explain why in this blog here.

Regarding the replacement of this, I have recalced the Black hole in comparison to planet FM in the very same blog along with a more expansive coverage of Sirius' feat now on the wiki itself as the current calc the pages use is an archive of a naruto forums one.

This would replace his 4-B rating with High 4-C.

Speed
Currently Geo is listed as 2.7 Billion times the speed of light with these reasoning:

Massively FTL+ (Can travel from Earth to Sagittarius A* in a short period of time, which is about 2.7 billion times the speed of light)

The issue with this is simple, he doesn't actually travel this distance, but takes a Noise Wave to reach there and you can directly see the portal behind him. Noise Waves generally act like wormholes throughout the game to reach certain locations. This essentially invalidates this as a feat.

However this distance of travel isn't completely out of question in the series. I have gotten 2 other feats that will replace this and support the rating where the FM-ians travel to the lost space station and Omega-Xis fleeing to Earth from Planet FM. They have been calculated and explained here, and will give the cast a new but lower Massively FTL+ rating of 50,648,000c. (Edit: I have since updated the scaling to combat/reactions reasoning after Qawsedf234's response, but they haven't provided input after the changes)

Conclusion

The Starforce characters become High 4-C and their speed goes from 2,700,000,000c to 50,648,000c

Agree -

Staff: Dalesean027, Celestial_Pegasus​

Users: @Lilybitdun, @Chaos Jester25, Apex_Predator_GX, Migue79​

Disagree -

 

[Lilybitdun]

Looks good

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Briefly coming back from the dead to say that I agree with this.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

OP looks good.

 

[Qawsedf234]

However this distance of travel isn't completely out of question in the series. I have gotten 2 other feats that will replace this and support the rating where the FM-ians travel to the lost space station and Omega-Xis fleeing to Earth from Planet FM. They have been calculated and explained here, and will give the cast a new but lower Massively FTL+ rating of 50,648,000c.

Reading the blog, I don't see the reasoning given as being valid for combat speed scaling. Spinning in a circle =/= travel speed being used in combat.

 

[AlloyAmi]

Reading the blog, I don't see the reasoning given as being valid for combat speed scaling. Spinning in a circle =/= travel speed being used in combat.

its based around them being able to move that fast on the battlefield for specific attacks treated as faster then their normal movement, but how about this and this , its literally just them charging forward if thats more clear.

Pat was also able to react to an Fm-ian doing this, and their fused forms are obviously FAR higher.

 

[Migue79]

Checks out for now, aye.

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Agreed

 

[AlloyAmi]

bump

 

[AlloyAmi]

bump

 

[Dalesean027]

I suppose this works

 

[AlloyAmi]

bump

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

This seems fine.

I was also doubtful about combat speed but this in particular seems to prove it

Pat was also able to react to an Fm-ian doing this, and their fused forms are obviously FAR higher.

 

[AlloyAmi]

This seems fine.

Is this enough staff approval to be accepted?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Is this enough staff approval to be accepted?

You have 3 to 4 guys, is enough

 

[Cropfist]

This would also affect MegaMan.exe

 

[AlloyAmi]

This would also affect MegaMan.exe

it actually doesnt, we no longer scale exe to geo

 

[Cropfist]

it actually doesnt, we no longer scale exe to geo

 

[AlloyAmi]

exes entire AP section is massively outdated, Still working on the crt to fully revise it, though i guess ill edit that too since its still there thanks for letting me know. the new tiering after the next crt i make is gonna completely remove this and just cap it at high 6-a if youre wondering