Medaka vs Ben 10

[CMButch]

Who would win, between Medaka from Medaka Box, at her strongest) and Ben Tennyson (10.000).

Rules:

No prep. Ben has Master Control( change aliens by thought, no time out). Ben starts as Clockwork.Ben has all knowlegde about Medaka. Medaka only knows that Ben can transform into; original ten aliens + Clockwork. Ben 10.000 has Omnitrix on his left and Ultimatrix on his right hand and can cross aliens( every alien he wants, example: Toepick and Alien X)

Ben can turn into all 1.023.456 aliens( I think there are that many aliens, probably less or more).

If Medaka has trouble she can invite entire Medaka Box verse.

Ben 10.000 is bloodlusted. Medaka Box characters are in character.


For me:

I think Ben got this. He can turn Alien X and erase everyone from existence, or turn into ever greater alien with more almighty powers than Alien X, then cross-species with it. He's bloodlusted, which he'd destroy entire Medaka Box verse.

Opinions?

 

[Guy1190]

Nice try mate. Ben 10 still gets rekt. Najimi Ajimu solos the Ben 10 verse with 0 difficulty.

Not even speak a word about Madeka now, since you said she may need help from her verse.

And again, Najimi Ajimu shitstromps you favorite verse (Ben 10)

Go away mate.

 

[GreatestSin]

as far as i know alien x is omnipotent, so ben takes this but really, this fight is stupid, ben does only has alien X, exclude him and ben loses after a long fight with medaka who will copy anything that aliens can do

and, yes, ajimu has powers literally named "be stronger than your enemy", she would solo ^_^

 

[Aparajita]

And again, Najimi Ajimu shitstromps you favorite verse (Ben 10)

Important Wiki Rules, please regard #3 and refrain from vulgar language in the future.

 

[Aparajita]

and, yes, ajimu has powers literally named "be stronger than your enemy", she would solo ^_^

Sounds like NLF if you ask me.

 

[GreatestSin]

^it is the power(and the description of the powers effects), this is why she is considered OP

 

[Aparajita]

^it is the power(and the description of the powers effects), this is why she is considered OP

Still sounds like NLF if you ask me.

 

[Guy1190]

Sorry for breaking rules, new to this community. I read the rules and got it.


Najimu still wins.


And deal with it please. Thanks.

 

[GreatestSin]

Still sounds like NLF if you ask me.

isnt NLF if we assume a no-limit to a power where clear limits hadnt been mentioned?

if a power is so hax that it becomes a clearly broken it simply means the ability is OP, exspecially since "stronger than your enemy" basically is the description of the powers effects ^_^

either way, for the thread: medaka wins if alien x isnt included, otherwise medaka takes this, and najimu solos ^_^

 

[Gemmysaur]

Couldn't he go Alien X and warps her outside the verse or something? He is Multiversal and MFTL+, compared to Medaka's possibly Universal+ and hypersonic+.

 

[Aparajita]

if a power is so hax that it becomes a clearly broken it simply means the ability is OP, exspecially since "stronger than your enemy" basically is the description of the powers effects ^_^

Actually there is a seperate fallacy created for this scenario.

 

[CMButch]

Guy1190. Hahhah Ben 10 destroys Ajimu and Medaka with Alien X, stay salty.When you say deal with it, you seem like Medaka wanker. Stay down.


Greatest Sin. Ben has a lot of aliens that would destroy Medaka and her verse. Like Toepick, Eon, Clockwork etc. Ajimu can't be stronger than Omnipotents. Read what Omnipotent is.


And also, Ajimu was beaten by Demon Ilhiko. Yet, she's stronger than an enemy.

If she's stronger than an enemy, how did Ilhiko beat her.

Ilhiko's Medaka Box page states that he has no Skills and Minuses( he has no Abnormalities) he has 1 or 2 abilities.He beat Medaka numerous times and Ajimu and Misogi's AF didn't work on him.

There's only one theory. Minuses and Skills won't work on people who has abilities. Ben 10 and pretty much every other fictional character don't have Abnormalities , they have abilities and skills. There's difference between skill and Skill(Abnoramality)

Yep, Ben solos in even bigger curbstomp.

 

[Aurasuke]

as far as i know alien x is omnipotent, so ben takes this but really, this fight is stupid, ben does only has alien X, exclude him and ben loses after a long fight with medaka who will copy anything that aliens can do
and, yes, ajimu has powers literally named "be stronger than your enemy", she would solo ^_^

Apparenly Alien X is tier 2-C, Medaka stomps via Ajiumi who can use ascend to higher dimensions which would make her High 1-B at her highest. She also has pull out skill from a drawer skill meaning she probably has a crap load of OP skills that can let her obtain even more skills.

 

[CMButch]

as far as i know alien x is omnipotent, so ben takes this but really, this fight is stupid, ben does only has alien X, exclude him and ben loses after a long fight with medaka who will copy anything that aliens can do
and, yes, ajimu has powers literally named "be stronger than your enemy", she would solo ^_^

Apparenly Alien X is tier 2-C, Medaka stomps via Ajiumi who can use ascend to higher dimensions which would make her High 1-B at her highest. She also has pull out skill from a drawer skill meaning she probably has a crap load of OP skills that can let her obtain even more skills.

Read my comment above. Alien X is omnipotent said by Derrick and MoA. IIRC reality warper can't beat Omnipotent.

 

[Promestein]

We don't take those (or any statements about omnipotents, really) statements seriously.

 

[Dekoshu]

Omnipotent beings...

 

[KamiYasha]

First of all, everyone chill.

There is no need to be rude or whatever.

Second...why is Alien X rated as Multi-Universe level (For recreated the Ben 10 universe)... that sounds as Low 2-C if you ask me.

Third, Najimi is the mother of NFL, if you read her 601 skills, she is a walking Deus Ex Machima.

Certainly, she is more than powerful that her own verse combined, again, people should read the main focus of the series (and the existence of Najimi itself), also her weaknesses it is arguable whether or not if the Theory Of Narrative Causality is one of her weaknesses or just a massive plot armor.

 

[CMButch]

We don't take those (or any statements about omnipotents, really) statements seriously.

lol kk

 

[Dekoshu]

OK, KamiYasha. But I was reading comments and when I read "omnipotents", I think the person is trying to say "omnipotent beings". I was confused and unsure.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@KamiYasha: I'm pretty sure that it's because the Ben 10 verse is a multiverse. IDK. I haven't watched the show in a long time. It's sad, really, loved the show since it came out.

 

[CMButch]

First of all, everyone chill.
There is no need to be rude or whatever.

Second...why is Alien X rated as Multi-Universe level (For recreated the Ben 10 universe)... that sounds as Low 2-C if you ask me.

Third, Najimi is the mother of NFL, if you read her 601 skills, she is a walking Deus Ex Machima.

Certainly, she is more than powerful that her own verse combined, again, people should read the main focus of the series (and the existence of Najimi itself), also her weaknesses it is arguable whether or not if the Theory Of Narrative Causality is one of her weaknesses or just a massive plot armor.

I am not rude. I am just saiyng that it's stated by Medaka Box wiki and Ben 10 wiki. If a writers says something, it's canon. They said Alien X is omnipotent, he survived universe level attack, recreated Universe, defeated other Omnipotent ( GG).

And that WDEM is defeated by Lihiko. yep.

 

[Promestein]

Omnipotents can't lose, so, no, definitely not omnipotent. Surviving a universal attack and recreating a universe is far from impressive.

Alien X may as well be omnipotent in his own fiction due to being the strongest entity there, but otherwise? No.

 

[Aurasuke]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_X

Here's the profile not even tier 1 let alone tier 0 lol.

 

[CMButch]

Derrick writer of Omniverse stated that Galactic Gladiator is an omnipotent. Alien X beat him. So basically Omnipotents can beat Omnipotents. There's thing in real life: Politeism.

Aurasuke, http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_X


It says he's Omnipotent so ye.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Prometein: Dang. You beat me to it... But surviving a universal attack is impressive, just not if you are only interested in tier 1+. Sometimes we forget that strength doesn't always equal quality. Just look at Avatar on one end, and Suggsverse on the other end (only bad powerful verse I can think of). Oh, and to everyone else. And I'm on Tennyson's side on this. Ajimu shouldn't be counted for her vagueness (she might as well be an insanely powerful fem version of Ywach), so 2C beats low 2C, and if that's not enough, speed advantage.

 

[Dekoshu]

"^Dang. You beat me to it... But surviving a universal attack is impressive, just not if you are only interested in Tier 1+. Sometimes, we forget that strength doesn't always equal quality. Just look at Avatar on one end, and Suggsverse on the other end (only bad powerful verse I can think of). Oh. And I'm on Tennyson's side on this. Ajimu shouldn't be counted for her vagueness (she might as well be an insanely powerful female version of Yhwach), so 2-C beats Low 2-C, and if that's not enough, speed advantage."

This is what you're meaning to say, right?

 

[Promestein]

Derrick writer of Omniverse stated that Galactic Gladiator is an omnipotent. Alien X beat him. So basically Omnipotents can beat Omnipotents. There's thing in real life: Politeism.

Aurasuke, http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_X

It says he's Omnipotent so ye.

Nope. Omnipotents can't lose. That's why they're omnipotent. It doesn't matter what Derrick said.

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

Derrick writer of Omniverse stated that Galactic Gladiator is an omnipotent. Alien X beat him. So basically Omnipotents can beat Omnipotents. There's thing in real life: Politeism.

Aurasuke, http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_X

It says he's Omnipotent so ye.

Nope. Omnipotents can't lose. That's why they're omnipotent. It doesn't matter what Derrick said.

They can....if they're fighting another omnipotent.

 

[CMButch]

Derrick writer of Omniverse stated that Galactic Gladiator is an omnipotent. Alien X beat him. So basically Omnipotents can beat Omnipotents. There's thing in real life: Politeism.

Aurasuke, http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_X

It says he's Omnipotent so ye.

Nope. Omnipotents can't lose. That's why they're omnipotent. It doesn't matter what Derrick said.

You're gonna nulify what creator of show says? He created Omniverse, you didn't , nor I. What he says is final about his show.And like I said Politeism is a religion where people believe in a two or more Gods. If one God(omnipotent) creates another God(omnipotent), obviosuly that creator God is stronger than other created God.So yeah.

 

[KamiYasha]

DEFEATED an Omnipotent...

As allways, Feats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Statements.

If the other character "is" omnipotent and he lost, then he isn't an omnipotent.

Also, here we don't use the term Omnipotent...it is SO vague..

 

[Aurasuke]

Derrick writer of Omniverse stated that Galactic Gladiator is an omnipotent. Alien X beat him. So basically Omnipotents can beat Omnipotents. There's thing in real life: Politeism.
Aurasuke, http://ben10.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_X


It says he's Omnipotent so ye.

Thats nice and all but I unless you convince antivisma you won't convince me that he's anywhere near tier 0. Go to the content revision board to voice your arguments, but I believe what you are doing is stating a hyperbole and NLF. I could say that "she can do everything" but that's just a hyperbole, doesn't really me she is omnipotent lol.

Anyway Ajimu is like the only character that can stomp Ben 10, she may be vague but she is supposedly god. Not including her would be like not including Azathoth in a battle of Uminenko vs Demonbane, and then one would just say creator solos. something along those lines.

 

[Promestein]

True Omnipotents don't lose. This has been explained countless times by people with more authority and knowledge than me. If you won't listen, I'll stop wasting my time.

 

[Aurasuke]

I screwed up lmao, meant to link this page to everyone


https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_X

 

[CMButch]

DEFEATED an Omnipotent...
As allways, Feats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Statements.

If the other character "is" omnipotent and he lost, then he isn't an omnipotent.

Also, here we don't use the term Omnipotent...it is SO vague..

It's stated in the show and by creator. Those statements are coming from actual writer of a show. Omnipotent beat Omnipotent in that Tennyson vs Universe.

 

[Aurasuke]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_X


Did you not see my post? Only 2-C lol

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Okay, this is really starting to get nowhere soon.