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This thread will be discussing other justifications and points for Wanda having a possibly 3-A or possibly Low 2-C upgrade rather than getting her to outright High 3-A which has been rejected multiple times
Proposal: At least 6-A, likely far higher, up to possibly at least 3-A with Magic or up to possibly Low 2-C with Magic
Reasons for High 3-A Rejection: Was discussed that Wanda used hax to erase every Darkholds which would not equate to AP. Also people were saying that the darkhold erasure was a chain reaction by destroying the Mount Wundagore of Earth-616,
main point
Her darkhold erasure feat would be 4D rather than High 3-A due to erasing the Darkhold in every universe, which the Multiverse contains an uncountable infinite amount of timelines, so erasing uncountable infinite amount of 3D matter would be 4D
It is also stated by Richie Palmer and Sam Raimi that she also destroyed every Mount Wundagore alongside erasing the Darkhold, suggesting that other Mount Wundagores exist in other universes and that her destroying Mount Wundagore in Earth-616 wasn’t the cause of the erasure of every darkhold in other universes, refuting that all those darkholds were connected to it, so it wasn’t just the Darkhold book that she supposedly destroyed
Existence of Mount Wundagores in other universes is also shown in Deadpool 3, where the statue of Wanda from the Darkhold Castle was in the void, as well as other Scarlet Witches existing in other universes, like Wanda-Merlin in S2E08 of What If..? The title of the Scarlet Witch is important to the Darkhold and how the Darkhold exists in every universe and that the books are actually transcribed from Mount Wundagore, so the castle would exist in the multiverse too
I think her destroying Mount Wundagore in every uncountable universe would be possibly Low 2-C rather than outright Low 2-C since she did it through unknown means and could be done by either Hax just like what she did with the Darkhold
back up
It is stated that Wanda is a being who will one day possess the power to bend reality to her will-or destroy it entirely. This possibly implies that she would be obtain this level of power when she becomes the Scarlet Witch, which is when Wanda realizes the potential of her own chaos magic, now being able to rewrite reality whenever she chooses which could mean that she would possess that level of power when she embraces her Scarlet Witch title.
Wanda was also confident in her own capabilities in accordance to the prophecy of her ruling/annihilating the cosmos, however she stated that she didn’t want to rule the universe since all she wanted was to be with her kids, so this shows that she wouldn’t intend reaching that level, and is holding herself back when it comes to her kids, which she should have “up to possibly Low 2-C” based on my proposal since if she were to be Low 2-C, all her regular attacks would have Low 2-C potency, which wouldn’t make sense if she doesn’t wish to reach that amount of power
Her power also exceeds that of the Sorcerer Supreme, which includes Wong, the Ancient one who can split a timeline into two and allowed it to exist together, and also Agamotto, whose spells are stated to be capable of fracturing “all reality”
She was also overwhelmed the full might of Kamar Taj who can stop interdimensional forces from wiping out all of reality
Wong also states that she is a being of unfathomable magic and according to WoG, her chaos magic would be more powerful than any other characters’ that we know of in the picture, which should make her more superior to Ancient One drawing from Dark Dimension Magic, Agamotto and his spells, and Wong who also knows the spells of Agamotto
She is also stated to be the most powerful being in Earth-616 by Richie Palmer so maybe she can possibly upscale from Arishem alongside this being backed up by other justifications although this statement can also mean anything
So Wanda should have an up to possibly at least Universe level or up to possibly Universe level+ with Magic rating since she destroyed every mount wundagore (through unknown means) and erased every darkhold in the Multiverse which contains an uncountable infinite amount of timelines, and is stated to be the most powerful being in the universe which would make her more powerful than Arishem, her power exceeds Sorcerer Supremes like Agamotto who has spells that can fracture all reality, and Ancient One who can split a timeline into two, is stated that she will possess the power to bend reality to her will and to destroy it entirely, and is confident in her own capabilities of ruling and annihilating the cosmos when it comes to her prophecy, however she didn’t want to pursue that prophecy
wanda’s existence erasure
Wanda should receive Soul Erasure or have NPI be listed alongside her Existence Erasure for the following reasons: She has NPI for harming the souls of the damned with her magic but in the scene she doesn’t simply harm them and she straight up causes them to vanish completely where they don’t come back anymore and I think that could be also used as a justification for her existence erasure and that she could use it offensively (only in rare occasions)
And that a Soul is the essence of who someone is (Listed in dormammu profile but the scan for it isnt visible, so I dont know if it useable) so NPI and EE can be listed together and her erasing the souls of the damned can be conjoined with the darkhold erasure justification
At least 6-A, likely far higher, up to possibly at least 3-A with Magic
Agree:
Neutral:
Disagree:
At least 6-A, likely far higher, up to possibly Low 2-C with Magic
Agree:
Neutral:
Disagree:
Existence Erasure and NPI listed together or Soul Erasure for Wanda
Agree:
Neutral:
Disagree:
Proposal: At least 6-A, likely far higher, up to possibly at least 3-A with Magic or up to possibly Low 2-C with Magic
Reasons for High 3-A Rejection: Was discussed that Wanda used hax to erase every Darkholds which would not equate to AP. Also people were saying that the darkhold erasure was a chain reaction by destroying the Mount Wundagore of Earth-616,
main point
Her darkhold erasure feat would be 4D rather than High 3-A due to erasing the Darkhold in every universe, which the Multiverse contains an uncountable infinite amount of timelines, so erasing uncountable infinite amount of 3D matter would be 4D
It is also stated by Richie Palmer and Sam Raimi that she also destroyed every Mount Wundagore alongside erasing the Darkhold, suggesting that other Mount Wundagores exist in other universes and that her destroying Mount Wundagore in Earth-616 wasn’t the cause of the erasure of every darkhold in other universes, refuting that all those darkholds were connected to it, so it wasn’t just the Darkhold book that she supposedly destroyed
Existence of Mount Wundagores in other universes is also shown in Deadpool 3, where the statue of Wanda from the Darkhold Castle was in the void, as well as other Scarlet Witches existing in other universes, like Wanda-Merlin in S2E08 of What If..? The title of the Scarlet Witch is important to the Darkhold and how the Darkhold exists in every universe and that the books are actually transcribed from Mount Wundagore, so the castle would exist in the multiverse too
I think her destroying Mount Wundagore in every uncountable universe would be possibly Low 2-C rather than outright Low 2-C since she did it through unknown means and could be done by either Hax just like what she did with the Darkhold
back up
It is stated that Wanda is a being who will one day possess the power to bend reality to her will-or destroy it entirely. This possibly implies that she would be obtain this level of power when she becomes the Scarlet Witch, which is when Wanda realizes the potential of her own chaos magic, now being able to rewrite reality whenever she chooses which could mean that she would possess that level of power when she embraces her Scarlet Witch title.
Wanda was also confident in her own capabilities in accordance to the prophecy of her ruling/annihilating the cosmos, however she stated that she didn’t want to rule the universe since all she wanted was to be with her kids, so this shows that she wouldn’t intend reaching that level, and is holding herself back when it comes to her kids, which she should have “up to possibly Low 2-C” based on my proposal since if she were to be Low 2-C, all her regular attacks would have Low 2-C potency, which wouldn’t make sense if she doesn’t wish to reach that amount of power
Her power also exceeds that of the Sorcerer Supreme, which includes Wong, the Ancient one who can split a timeline into two and allowed it to exist together, and also Agamotto, whose spells are stated to be capable of fracturing “all reality”
She was also overwhelmed the full might of Kamar Taj who can stop interdimensional forces from wiping out all of reality
Wong also states that she is a being of unfathomable magic and according to WoG, her chaos magic would be more powerful than any other characters’ that we know of in the picture, which should make her more superior to Ancient One drawing from Dark Dimension Magic, Agamotto and his spells, and Wong who also knows the spells of Agamotto
She is also stated to be the most powerful being in Earth-616 by Richie Palmer so maybe she can possibly upscale from Arishem alongside this being backed up by other justifications although this statement can also mean anything
So Wanda should have an up to possibly at least Universe level or up to possibly Universe level+ with Magic rating since she destroyed every mount wundagore (through unknown means) and erased every darkhold in the Multiverse which contains an uncountable infinite amount of timelines, and is stated to be the most powerful being in the universe which would make her more powerful than Arishem, her power exceeds Sorcerer Supremes like Agamotto who has spells that can fracture all reality, and Ancient One who can split a timeline into two, is stated that she will possess the power to bend reality to her will and to destroy it entirely, and is confident in her own capabilities of ruling and annihilating the cosmos when it comes to her prophecy, however she didn’t want to pursue that prophecy
wanda’s existence erasure
Wanda should receive Soul Erasure or have NPI be listed alongside her Existence Erasure for the following reasons: She has NPI for harming the souls of the damned with her magic but in the scene she doesn’t simply harm them and she straight up causes them to vanish completely where they don’t come back anymore and I think that could be also used as a justification for her existence erasure and that she could use it offensively (only in rare occasions)
And that a Soul is the essence of who someone is (Listed in dormammu profile but the scan for it isnt visible, so I dont know if it useable) so NPI and EE can be listed together and her erasing the souls of the damned can be conjoined with the darkhold erasure justification
At least 6-A, likely far higher, up to possibly at least 3-A with Magic
Agree:
Neutral:
Disagree:
At least 6-A, likely far higher, up to possibly Low 2-C with Magic
Agree:
Neutral:
Disagree:
Existence Erasure and NPI listed together or Soul Erasure for Wanda
Agree:
Neutral:
Disagree:
