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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

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So they did fan screenings for thunderbolts the reviews seem mostly positive
Like everytime Disney or whatever did fan screenings. Last time I checked, live-action Snow White had good to really good fs and the actual movie turned out to be dogshit (but still better than other Disney remakes since at least this one ACTUALLY tried to be different. Still shitty though, particulary the Queen, it's an insult to Grimhilde)
 
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So from what I’m seeing in terms of feats void/sentry doesn’t do anything outside of fodderize the thunderbolts and maybe damage Bucky arm meaning

SpiderMan victim
 
cope harder for sentry lil bro

I don't gaf about Sentry dawg. The only parts of the MCU I care about/actively follow are Spider-Man, Super Soldiers (kinda), and the Defenders Saga (I have watched most of the MCU, but the parts I mentioned are the ones I generally care about the most)

And when it comes to the comics, Sentry's such a boring character to me. I just think it's funny how you're pushing an agenda that he's absolute fodder like damn what did he do to you

It does because if someone watched and says what happens then that’s it

No, that is literally not it. This is how people who watch Dragon Ball via a few YouTube shorts talk. Just because you saw a few clips and heard a few people say "yeah this fight scene happens" doesn't mean you've totally experienced the film

There's this thing called "context" that a few clips can't fill you in on. This is sorta the same reason we have so many revisions for verses because sometimes pages are made from people who have only seen maybe a few clips or looked at a Wikipedia plot summary. That isn't gonna be enough

Idgaf if Sentry is 10-B or 1-A, he's not a character I'm interested in. But I won't pretend like I know anything about where he scales until I watch the damn movie
 
Like idk man imagine asking someone how a film is, they say "kinda ok, this one character dies" and then going "I watched the film!!!" just because you heard your friend say that LMAO
 
I don't gaf about Sentry dawg. The only parts of the MCU I care about/actively follow are Spider-Man, Super Soldiers (kinda), and the Defenders Saga.

And when it comes to the comics, Sentry's such a boring character to me. I just think it's funny how you're pushing an agenda that he's absolute fodder like damn what did he do to you
Wrong you actively low ball those characters

No, that is literally not it. This is how people who watch Dragon Ball via a few YouTube shorts talk. Just because you saw a few clips and heard a few people say "yeah this fight scene happens" doesn't mean you've totally experienced the film

There's this thing called "context" that a few clips can't fill you in on. This is sorta the same reason we have so many revisions for verses because sometimes pages are made from people who have only seen maybe a few clips or looked at a Wikipedia plot summary. That isn't gonna be enough

Idgaf if Sentry is 10-B or 1-A, he's not a character I'm interested in. But I won't pretend like I know anything about where he scales until I watch the damn movie
Yes it is if someone watched the movie not 1 but more then people so different views all say the exact same thing then that means nothing happened

In almost every person I’ve got answers from who watched it says the same thing sentry doesn’t actually do much besides humiliate the thunderbolt and damage Bucky arm other then that he’s just hyped up as a strong character with void shadow hax
 
I've rewatched all 3 seasons of what if...? and I have one question: while zombie wanda fought kahhori at her full speed, zombie wanda fought her evenly until she got BFR, does that mean that in main profile she scaled with zombie wanda what if...? would have likely far higher speed?
 
Wrong you actively low ball those characters

Okay hold the phone because this shit is the most cap I've ever heard on this forum and that says a lot. I do not wanna hype myself up, but ask anyone here and they will tell you I am extremely invested in anything Spider-Man on this site. You are talking to the most Spider-Man brainrotted user on this ******* platform. My ass is out here indexing and revising a ton of Spider-Man shit, popular and unpopular, just because I have accepted the fact I will NEVER EVER get past the "Spider-Man phase"

I was the guy who removed MCU Spidey's former keys that actively downplayed him
I was the guy who removed the slander about Vulture ""overpowering"" MCU Spidey
I was the guy who did massive overhauls on his abilities and intelligence sections
I was the guy who did the goddamn NO WAY HOME REVISION, tackling other MCU, Raimiverse, and TASM characters who didn't even appear in those films so that they would have their abilities and intelligence sections boosted

And since when have I downplayed the Super Soldiers and Defenders? I was the guy who went against the "10-A Emil" downplay and got this man scaling to the 8-C+ crew. I was there supporting the 8-C+ Luke Cage upgrades. Get real man. I'm out here making page revamps for Luke Cage and Jessica Jones, which includes LS upgrades, because no one else can be ****** to give a shit about those guys

Don't tell me I'm wrong when I say I'm interested and invested in those parts of the MCU because they are the only reasons I still contribute to anything MCU related on this wiki. Hell, I helped with the recent 9-A upgrades recently, you seriously think I'm actively downplaying Spider-Man AND the Super Soldiers AND the Defenders? No. I'm just not unreasonably glazing them for the sake of glaze. The MCU's introduction to Spider-Man is when I actually started caring about the MCU because I've already invested myself in a ton of the Spider-Man mythos. But loving a character doesn't mean you have to endlessly glaze them and argue they're at the highest level for the most ass backwards reasons. This is all you ever do. You see the most shoestring reasons for scaling and go "TIER 6 SPIDER-MAN TIER 6 SPIDER-MAN!!!!!". And when people disagree with you, the response you give is "use common sense bro, stop using headcanon". I don't even think you know what those words mean. I also think it's funny how you think I'm actively lowballing characters that I'm trying to make BETTER on the page with better abilities, intelligence, and equipment sections, but I seriously doubt you check those either because you just want Spider-Man to be punching with Moon level strikes or some shit


Wake tf up dawg

Yes it is if someone watched the movie not 1 but more then people so different views all say the exact same thing then that means nothing happened

In almost every person I’ve got answers from who watched it says the same thing sentry doesn’t actually do much besides humiliate the thunderbolt and damage Bucky arm other then that he’s just hyped up as a strong character with void shadow hax

Guy who hasn't watched a movie thinks watching teasers and hearing leaks means he watches movies
 
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I’ve seen quite a few recorded clips and heard many leaks from people who watched it

Overall he doesn’t appear to do much in the film outside of maybe damaging Bucky arm I guess
Dude the movie comes out in a week. You can wait 1 week before jumping into scaling

Have some patience, goddamn
 
Okay hold the phone because this shit is the most cap I've ever heard on this forum and that says a lot. I do not wanna hype myself up, but ask anyone here and they will tell you I am extremely invested in anything Spider-Man on this site. You are talking to the most Spider-Man brainrotted user on this ******* platform. My ass is out here indexing and revising a ton of Spider-Man shit, popular and unpopular, just because I have accepted the fact I will NEVER EVER get past the "Spider-Man phase"

I was the guy who removed MCU Spidey's former keys that actively downplayed him
I was the guy who removed the slander about Vulture ""overpowering"" MCU Spidey
I was the guy who did massive overhauls on his abilities and intelligence sections
I was the guy who did the goddamn NO WAY HOME REVISION, tackling other MCU, Raimiverse, and TASM characters who didn't even appear in those films so that they would have their abilities and intelligence sections boosted

And since when have I downplayed the Super Soldiers and Defenders? I was the guy who went against the "10-A Emil" downplay and got this man scaling to the 8-C+ crew. I was there supporting the 8-C+ Luke Cage upgrades. Get real man. I'm out here making page revamps for Luke Cage and Jessica Jones, which includes LS upgrades, because no one else can be ****** to give a shit about those guys

Don't tell me I'm wrong when I say I'm interested and invested in those parts of the MCU because they are the only reasons I still contribute to anything MCU related on this wiki. Hell, I helped with the recent 9-A upgrades recently, you seriously think I'm actively downplaying Spider-Man AND the Super Soldiers AND the Defenders? No. I'm just not unreasonably glazing them for the sake of glaze. The MCU's introduction to Spider-Man is when I actually started caring about the MCU because I've already invested myself in a ton of the Spider-Man mythos. But loving a character doesn't mean you have to endlessly glaze them and argue they're at the highest level for the most ass backwards reasons. This is all you ever do. You see the most shoestring reasons for scaling and go "TIER 6 SPIDER-MAN TIER 6 SPIDER-MAN!!!!!". And when people disagree with you, the response you give is "use common sense bro, stop using headcanon". I don't even think you know what those words mean. I also think it's funny how you think I'm actively lowballing characters that I'm trying to make BETTER on the page with better abilities, intelligence, and equipment sections, but I seriously doubt you check those either because you just want Spider-Man to be punching with Moon level strikes or some shit
Not cap you massively lowball typing essays won’t change it

Guy who hasn't watched a movie thinks watching teasers and hearing leaks means he watches movies
They aren’t teasers they are people who legit recorded the film why in the theater lol and yes hearing the same thing from numerous people who have actually watched the movie means it sorry but try again
 
Not cap you massively lowball typing essays won’t change it

Its funny how you didn't actually respond to anything specific I said there or provide evidence to support your argument

Thanks for confirming with me that you don't actually take the time to read anything I say

They aren’t teasers they are people who legit recorded the film why in the theater lol and yes hearing the same thing from numerous people who have actually watched the movie means it sorry but try again

Whatever helps you sleep at night
 
Not cap you massively lowball typing essays won’t change it


They aren’t teasers they are people who legit recorded the film why in the theater lol and yes hearing the same thing from numerous people who have actually watched the movie means it sorry but try again
Bro, Naruto Shippuden ended a long time ago and there are still people who rewatch/read it and came here to revise with new theories and information that the others missed and totally change the scaling. Just because they watched it doesn't mean they know everything.

Just wait for the movie who knows maybe they directly state Spiderman is tier 1 and you can came here revise it.
 
Its funny how you didn't actually respond to anything specific I said there or provide evidence to support your argument

Thanks for confirming with me that you don't actually take the time to read anything I say



Whatever helps you sleep at night
its joever we all know spidey is hulk tier in the MCU
 
Okay, I know I'm not an admin of whatever but I'm going to propose a new rule: wait until ACTUALLY SEEING/PLAYING the damn thing BEFORE pushing for tiers, sacling and abilities. Context. CON-TEXT. C-O-N-T-E-X-T.
 
In almost every person I’ve got answers from who watched it says the same thing sentry doesn’t actually do much besides humiliate the thunderbolt and damage Bucky arm other then that he’s just hyped up as a strong character with void shadow hax
Little problem with that: we haven't seen the movie yet. Maybe it's just flying, super strength and shadow hax or maybe it's more and the clips and people recording them missed or skipped over them. Cause unless those comments you're talking about make an exact, detailed list of abilities we're seeing in the movie, I'll wait for the actual thing before setting up for an opinion
 
Little problem with that: we haven't seen the movie yet. Maybe it's just flying, super strength and shadow hax or maybe it's more and the clips and people recording them missed or skipped over them. Cause unless those comments you're talking about make an exact, detailed list of abilities we're seeing in the movie, I'll wait for the actual thing before setting up for an opinion
This is 100% facts. I'll watch a movie and still miss a small detail that would've been a game changer from a powerscaling perspective (because sometimes, I don't know, people want to watch a movie because it's GOOD, not because of who's 1-A or 3-B, lol); that's why it's great to have so many eyes on the film once it releases because then you can properly make judgments on it then. People who got early screenings won't detail everything.
 
I think Daredevil should have "Limited Resistance to Sleep Manipulation" for that one scene in Daredevil S3E4, where he's injected with a sedative but still manages to fight off multiple prisoners and guards, remaining conscious. Maybe something like this:

"Limited Resistance to Sleep Manipulation (After being injected with a sedative meant to instantly incapacitate him, Matt remained conscious albeit visible weakened, managing to successfully take down multiple inmates and prison guards, before escaping the facility with assistance)"


I think that same episode justifies Social Influencing given the discussion he has with Vic following that entire fight
Added the Sleep Manipulation part to his P&A and I'll add Social Influencing whenever I can. Really surprised he doesn't have it on there already since he's literally a lawyer lmao.
 
Added the Sleep Manipulation part to his P&A and I'll add Social Influencing whenever I can. Really surprised he doesn't have it on there already since he's literally a lawyer lmao.
YES THE SON OF A BOXER🗣️🗣️
 
YES THE SON OF A BOXER🗣️🗣️
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Flying Lotus on the Blade soundtrack sounds like a match made in heaven but this movie is never going to be made I fear smh
 

Flying Lotus on the Blade soundtrack sounds like a match made in heaven but this movie is never going to be made I fear smh

ONE OF MY FAVOURITE ARTISTS FOR A FILM THATS NEVER COMING OUT 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 💀 💀 💀 💀
 
This is 100% facts. I'll watch a movie and still miss a small detail that would've been a game changer from a powerscaling perspective (because sometimes, I don't know, people want to watch a movie because it's GOOD, not because of who's 1-A or 3-B, lol); that's why it's great to have so many eyes on the film once it releases because then you can properly make judgments on it then. People who got early screenings won't detail everything.
For real. Like, obviously if we're watching a movie with superpowers, superheroes, magic and so on, we expect impressive feats and versatile hax but that's not the first thing I'm looking for. At best, it'll just be part of it. In general, I wait to see the movie first and then, I either watch clips, descriptions or wait to see it again not only to avoid spoilers but so I can focus on the actual movie first and because aside from the most notable stuff, I have to make sure I didn't some stuff on my first watch
 
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Started work on a sandbox for Born Again (SPOILERS AHEAD):
Two more recommendations

-For Bullseye's base durability (ex. not when he was wearing the armour), instead of the rooftop thin, I would suggest saying he scales to his AP, citing how he could take multiple hits from Daredevil in Born Again, as well as including him casually surviving being inside of a car as it exploded as a supporting feat

-The sleep resistance thing comes from S3E4, not S3E3

I'll probably think of more once I dig into Born Again in full (currently gotta watch Punisher S2 and Jessica Jones S3 in my Defenders binge first)
 
So hard that at least one of the proposed scripts barely even focused on Blade himself. But seriously, he's a guy who kills VAMPIRES, what is it about him that they think he doesn't deserve to star in HIS OWN MOVIE!?!?!
From what I've heard, this iteration of the script was about Blade being a fourth lead about to be remplaced by a female character and filled with life lessons. And apparently, there was 3 female characters, including Dracula's sdaughter. It's become a trend to treat the original, iconic character as an old mentor who failed and is about to be remplaced with the new generation (and I don't want to sound too much like an angry middle-aged dude, especially THAT kind of dude, but in several cases, the story is about the new generation being superior and rectifying the mistakes of the OG just to promote the new guys and tries to pass as "progressist")
 
@Lacku Also looking back at Daredevil Season 3, the fact that Matt says this about Bullseye shows how goated this man truly was....
I made sure to add that quote to the sandbox. He really is that guy.
-For Bullseye's base durability (ex. not when he was wearing the armour), instead of the rooftop thin, I would suggest saying he scales to his AP, citing how he could take multiple hits from Daredevil in Born Again, as well as including him casually surviving being inside of a car as it exploded as a supporting feat
Wait was Dex fr in the car that blew up??
 
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