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I'm sorry I really missed it but she can surpass base thanos, she almost kill thanos, durability thanos resis against thor lightning
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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Do you understand how scaling in VSBW works?
Tell me, do you think that if you destroy something thing that has High 6-B or 6-A Durability that would make you High 6-A, 5-C, or higher?
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He's new, go easy on him.
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I'm just wondering about the upgrade because Jane and Valkyrie, she just fought Gor and was able to match him, so why can't Wanda upgrade? Because it was different from direct combat because she could destroy it
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Why are you bringing up characters that scale to different things?
You understand that Wanda's Magic currently scales above Thanos himself already right?
You know how Wanda fights right?
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I just wonder if a non-life threatening attack would really amount to him
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What the hell are you rambling on about now?
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Hmm, I don't understand the upgrade system. Don't be mad at me. i just comment my thoughts if it doesn't deserve what I'm commenting on. You should tell me no. That's it.
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Gorr scaling is completely irrelevant to this
L&T Thor went through extensive training and became much stronger than his previous self
Thanos and Endgame Scarlet Witch DO NOT scale to L&T Thor
Also, Valkyrie DOESN'T scale to L&T Thor or Gorr in AP except for when she's using Thunderbolt
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OneBleachHurricane mentioned Gladiator Hulk causing negligible cracks on Eternal Flame Surtur's crown and enduring two attacks from Post-Awakening Thor
I personally don't agree with making them High 6-B+ through this method
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Blame the Russos for making the Hulk into fodder
Deadass there's no viable way to scale him
Deadass there's no viable way to scale him
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Cull Obsidian scaling still seems fine to me since Mk50 Iron Man mostly tanked his attacks without major damage, somewhat burnt him and even briefly KOed him with that mega energy blast
Everything about Thanos scaling is okay. Mk50 Iron Man ultimately downscales massively
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If we removed the Thanos scaling from Mark 50 Iron Man, what would be an alternative scaling of Cull, HB2.0, Mark 4-6 WM and Mark 50?
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At the top of my head, it would be Cull Obsidian's confidence in fighting Hulk and actually fighting Hulkbuster 2.0, which should at least as powerful as the first Hulkbuster
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Where does the High 6-B+ scaling start from? Depowered Hela (Or her AD rating) or Awakened Thor?
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Depowered Hela
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So?
Ragnarok Scaling
• Depowered Hela < Awakened Thor <~ Hela with AD < Eternal Flame Surtur (800m)
• Gungir (Blade AP & its Durability) & Dragon Fang & Einhenjar Weapons ~ Hela
Infinity War/Endgame Scaling
• Scarlet Witch > Captain Marvel > Thanos (With Sword & Armor) ~> Awakened Thor/Worthy Cap (With Mjolnir & Stormbreaker) > Thanos > Awakened Thor/Worthy Cap ~ Mark 50/85 Iron Man ~ Mark 4/6 War Machine ~ Hulkbuster 2.0 <~ Cull Obsidian < GiAnt-Man
Ragnarok Scaling
• Depowered Hela < Awakened Thor <~ Hela with AD < Eternal Flame Surtur (800m)
• Gungir (Blade AP & its Durability) & Dragon Fang & Einhenjar Weapons ~ Hela
Infinity War/Endgame Scaling
• Scarlet Witch > Captain Marvel > Thanos (With Sword & Armor) ~> Awakened Thor/Worthy Cap (With Mjolnir & Stormbreaker) > Thanos > Awakened Thor/Worthy Cap ~ Mark 50/85 Iron Man ~ Mark 4/6 War Machine ~ Hulkbuster 2.0 <~ Cull Obsidian < GiAnt-Man
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Isn't Surtur 4km tall or something like that?
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he started out as 800m iirc
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Yes. He started at 800 metres and then grew to 4000 metres
Captain Marvel didn't fight Thanos with his sword and didn't really damage his armour
Mjolnir pretty much scales to whatever Thor's power level is, so including it in there is kinda redundant
Everything else is more or less the case. Though I'm kinda iffy about Einherjar weapons since they also didn't do much to Kurse and I highly doubt they are all so much stronger than Mjolnir, which is among the universe's greatest weapons and forged by Eitri in Nidavellir. Same case with Dragonfang
I just genuinely feel like Hela has a weakness against sharp weapons
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Thanos' sword should not be there
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Captain Marvel shouldn't scale to Thanos normally anyway since his nearly-dead self tanked a direct attack from her and then pushed against her leg with his ruined left arm, and she later barely staggered him
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b-but she's the strongest avenger!!!!!
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It's able to cut Worthy Cap who is enchanted to be as physical strong as Endgame Thor
Well Awakened Thor/Worthy Cap's Striking Strength didn't really do much to Thanos, but when augmented by Mjolnir, their strikes cause more blunt force damage than their usual punches
Average Joe with a hammer is gonna hurt more than Average Joe with a knuckle sandwich
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That doesn't mean it scales above Mjolnir and especially not Stormbreaker as the two were seen in Endgame
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You're focussing too much on just their weapons
My Scaling is all about their overall capabilities.
A fully combat equiped Thanos was portrayed as more than capable of taking on Mark 85 Iron Man, Worthy Cap, and Awakened Thor
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Might be a similar case in Endgame, as a relatively fresh Captain Marvel fought against a Thanos that already had prolonged engagements against Iron Man, Awakened Thor, Worthy Cap, Scarlet Witch, and some fodder. Endgame Thanos would have been both injured and somewhat tired, aka not at his best, when Captain Marvel confronted him.
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Are we sure Iron Man is that level with Thanos? He definitely scales but Thanos is still far above him in the Mark 50 at least.
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So you agree that Thanos with just his physical strength is above the Mark 50/85 suit, but you're not sure if "Thanos > Mark 50/85 Suit"?
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Mind Manipulation for Ebony Maw? (from the Infinity War artbook)
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O nvm I misread the chain I thought it said "Thanos ~ Mark 50 Iron Man"
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They scale to Hela who is superior to the Casket of Ancient Winter, which is this powerful
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So the Casket of Ancient Winters scaling was finally accepted, good to know. I wonder why it was constantly rejected since this scaling was proposed several times before, and imho it's a pretty clear cut scaling.
Thanks for the information!
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Did Endgame GiAnt-Man get left out of the High 6-B upgrades?
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