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Massive Pokémon Legendaries Upgrade

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Who I will NOT accept scaling.

Mewtwo

Xerneas

Yveltal

Zygarde

Genesect

Diancie

Deoxys

Everyone below.

Who I am WILLING to accept.

Cosmic Duo

Tapu

UB's
 
Like I already said, not once was I pushing for 4-B Zygarde and such. Was only clarifying that saying "half" of the legendaries being 4-B from this wouldnt be true and comes from nowhere. Just clearing that up for those who thought otherwise.

Anyways, im pretty sure the Tapu scaling however is a given since they stalemate Solgaleo and Lunala.
 
The Tapus have only 2 feats and both of them have them fighting either the UBs or the Cosmic Duo. They certainly do scale.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Scaling the UB's and maybe the Tapu is the farthest I am willing to go.
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Can you explain why Tapu is a maybe? The less scale the more I gravitate towards o3o
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The thing the Tapu's have going for them is that the 4 of them fought Solgaleo and/or Lunala for a while until they were defeated.

They fought the UB's.

However, this brings up another issue. If the Tapu do not scale, then what business does the other UB have scaling? iirc, the UB's are scaled to the Tapu who scale (split by 4) to the Cosmic Duo.
 
Where was it stated they were defeated? IIRC, the battle between the Tapu and the Cosmic Duo ended in a stalemate, not defeat.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Like I already said, not once was I pushing for 4-B Zygarde and such. Was only clarifying that saying "half" of the legendaries being 4-B from this wouldnt be true and comes from nowhere. Just clearing that up for those who thought otherwise.
Anyways, im pretty sure the Tapu scaling however is a given since they stalemate Solgaleo and Lunala.
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They did not stalemate Solgaleo or Lunala. They managed to fight for a bit, but were defeated. Both legends state "In the end the beast had won".
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Where was it stated they were defeated? IIRC, the battle between the Tapu and the Cosmic Duo ended in a stalemate, not defeat.
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Solgaleo vs Tapu
Lunala vs Tapu
 
-Tapus fought Solagleo/Lunala on somewhat equal term, if a bit weaker

-Lusamine Nihilego took a hit from Solgaleo/Lunala, though was forced to turn back.
 
Yeah, Cosmic Duo and UBs at best (tho I am okay with Tapus scaling...maybe)

I will say one thing though. If Lugia ever did get legitimate scaling to Necrozma or something (it doesn't, btw), it wouldn't be an outlier. You gotta remember that almost zero of these Legendaries have feats, and those who do, it's just one of them. Every Low 6-B is scaled from the Birds, who can hurt Lugia, whose only feat is flapping its wings. It can't be an outlier if there's only one other thing for comparison.

Granted, that's just me saying an if statement.
 
Why is dark matter even 4-A? Are those actually confirmed to be stars or are people just assuming they are?
 
It's not important now, it will be added later.
 
Also, "fought against it and lost" does NOT equal "fought evenly with it and eventually lost"

At best, I can see them being "possibly 4-B", but that's it.
 
I'm pretty sure it would be the latter since if it was a total stomp it wouldn't even be worth mentioning in the legends. Or it would have specified they had no chance.

Though, if everyone is good with possibly, I'll go with it.
 
"In the end" implies a drawn out battle. Like if I said "In the end, America beat Britain in the Revolutionary War"
 
Still, since we're talking about 4 Tapus, each one should probably be "possibly 4-B" so we have everything covered.
 
I agree with Kep. I'm actually not sold on solid 4-B for anyone. "Likely" at best is what I see.
 
I am neutral on the Tapu scale. I gave the scans, ya'll decide what to do.
 
I'm neutral on the whole thing.

On one hand, I can at most accept possibly 4-B for the Tapus, and consequently the UBs.

On the other hand, though, I'm 100% against throwing bones to make the fans happy.
 
I mean, tbh while I am neutral on Tapu's scaling, if they don't scale, the UB's don't scale right? What other reason do the UB's have scaling if the Tapu do not? Only ones I mainly agreed to scaling was Solgaleo and Lunala. UB's and Tapu are a possibly. Unless I'm forgetting something.
 
The only ones who I am 100% sure should scale is Nebby the Lion and Nebby the Bat.
 
Nebby the Lion and Nebby the Bat should scale, along with Knuckles the Echidna and Big the Cat

...wait, we're not doing a [name] the [animal] thing here? ovo
 
I still think, whether its Possibly or Likely, the Tapu should scale.

Even if they lost the fight implies it was drawn out and no logical evidence points to them being stomped as I mentioned above.

Also, Saikou mentioned Lusamine Nilhelgo taking a hit or 2 from Solgaleo IIRC.
 
Not to mention the manga is being EXTREMELY slow. There haven't been any updates to chapters of it yet and I follow it on at least 2 different manga sites.
 
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