Marvel Comics: Thor Immortality Type 2 Removal

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Here are the only justifications for Thor's Immo 2 on his page:

• Immortality (Type 2: Kept fighting after being impaled through the chest. Survived being pierced by Phoenix Emma Frost's diamond form broken into chunks across his body. Young Thor is impaled by Gorr in the torso in several places and wounded badly but survives. Survived fighting an army of giants after losing a limb, breaking his hammer, and numerous other injuries)

There's no evidence of type 2 immortality in these scans. Superhuman stamina is enough to justify being able to fight despite mortal injuries, no need for immortality 2 for that.

Agree: @Phoenks, @ProfectusInfinity, @Dark_Soul20189, @HenshinIntervention, @ActuallySpaceMan42, @SamanPatou
Disagree:
Neutral: @VeryGoofyToddler2

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

I see your point, especially with just having Superhuman stamina. I'm uneasy about the needed removal here since the scans are somewhat support it though evidently, the first two scans are quite a weak point.

I assume that a lot of that reasoning being used is because the weapons or the people doing the damage aren't “normal” or “conventional” in any sense of the word. So I stand to reason with that being the reason then the ability is justified but plainly looking at it does kind of paint a different picture. Either way, I’ve read and seen plenty of Thor to warrant the rating, but, since these specific scans aren't the strongest I guess the OP is sort of right.

Stuck at a hard neutral. I prefer just using new scans for the ability rather than just removing it completely.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I prefer just using new scans for the ability rather than just removing it completely.

Fair

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I see your point, especially with just having Superhuman stamina. I'm uneasy about the needed removal here since the scans are somewhat support it though evidently, the first two scans are quite a weak point.

I assume that a lot of that reasoning being used is because the weapons or the people doing the damage aren't “normal” or “conventional” in any sense of the word. So I stand to reason with that being the reason then the ability is justified but plainly looking at it does kind of paint a different picture. Either way, I’ve read and seen plenty of Thor to warrant the rating, but, since these specific scans aren't the strongest I guess the OP is sort of right.

Stuck at a hard neutral. I prefer just using new scans for the ability rather than just removing it completely.

What are the feats then?

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Phoenks]

If there are better scans, they should be presented. Otherwise, I'd just move these into the stamina section if they aren't already there. Good pain endurance, I suppose.

Agree with OP. (Not staff)

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

It can be moved into a different ability. Someone is free to make a CRT to add better scans for it down the line.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Agree with the downgrade.

 

[Muteki616]

the first two scans are quite a weak point.

Semi agree,
The difference between Superhuman stamin and immo type 2 is that the character usually succumbs to their wounds after sustaining the injuries in which Thor does not.
The injuries do not remain lethal post-combat.

and his natural healing system takes care of them. He never NEEDS to heal these injuries.

they should be presented.

Agreed

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I agree with the downgrade.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[HenshinIntervention]

If there's no feats presented here by supporters than I will have to agree with the removal

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Same thoughts as the majority of everyone else. If there are better feats, they should be shown, otherwise remove it.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Isn't this both Stamina & Immortality Type 2? I saw fighting with lost limbs as justification for Immortality Type 2.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Isn't this both Stamina & Immortality Type 2? I saw fighting with lost limbs as justification for Immortality Type 2.

It's just stamina without further context.

The other important thing I forgot to mention is that the justification is wrong. Thor didn't lose his arm during his fight against the Frost Giants in War of the Realms (2019 event), but that was well before, during Thor vol 4 (Jason Aaaron's run with Jane Foster as Thor) in 2014

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Bump

 

[SamanPatou]

Agree with the others, the scan showing the aftermath of his battle with Gorr also seems to imply Thor had very well been on the threshold of death and had to be handled rather carefully.
It is indeed superhuman stamina and great regeneration, but you'd still need proof he can go on indefinitely despite the injuries, instead of clinging to life and then heal.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I have an example of during most of the blood hunt comics, he passed all that time with a stake piercing his head, even while imprisioned, the vampires wanted to keep Thor alive and saw no problem doing it, in blood hunt 4 he was finally released and was still going even with a hole on his head. While he was unconscious he was bleeding the entire time and once the stake was removed he finally got consious. I think that classifies as Immortality type 2