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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

Who was gonna try to work on infinite/ Ad infinitum layered NEP for Graham and Anos again? I might've figured out a better way to argue for it.

I'm sure we're all familiar with this quote that gives every single character limited RPL/AD
Limited Reactive Power Level (The torch flares up with renewed vigour just before it extinguishes, and uses it to overcome extinguishment. In other words, as a person approaches their own death, they gain a permanent yet limited increase in power, which they can then utilise in an attempt to prevent their own death).
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At first glance it seems like they just get a stat increase but that's not all it does.
Because of this ability;
  • Sasha Necron was able to overcome death multiple times when being trained by anos, was stated to have surpassed all demons of the magical Era
  • Hero Kanon was able to survive after using <gavuel> (a spell that explodes all the magical power in the casters source, including the magical power of all their future selves) despite having only 1 source remaining (not sure if lay survived here or anos stopped the spell).
  • Anos was able to regain his true power before his reincarnation, gain resistance to <Beno Ieven> that rejects, destroys and erases from existence whatever it interacts with. He was also capable of surviving and overcoming the effects of Egil Grone Angdroa, a world destroying spell, despite only being a 5-A character
  • Curse king kaihiram and his mentor "Noor Dorfmund's" curses are capable of overcoming their natural resistance to their curses and becoming more powerful overtime with the power gained from them approaching destruction.
As seen in these cases, not only do their stats increase, they also gain better resistances + their hax gains more layers each time they approach destruction.

Graham as he approaches destruction gets closer to his true nothingness ultimately become nothing and regenerating from it. As a result of the established mechanic of approaching destruction, his latter nothingness with each destruction, would ultimately excede the former one each time.

Anos speculates that it may take destroying graham billions of times before he is completely destroyed as he believes nothing is eternal but in the event that he is wrong and graham's nothingness is truly eternal, then graham's nothingness would continue to be destroyed for eternity in his source even if anos himself perishes.

Conclusion: Basically from the above, anos and graham would gain;
  • At least a billion to Infinite/ Ad Infinitum layers of NEP
  • At least a billion to Infinite/ Ad Infinitum layers of Void Manipulation
  • At least a billion to Infinite/ Ad Infinitum layers of Nonexistence Erasure for Anos and Venuzdonoa.
So, any thoughts guys? Think it might work?
@Fixxed, @EldemadeDityjon, @Dread, @Dereck03, @Orioreeem, @Sen, @Overlord_THE_END, @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless
 
Good luck, just saying that only one character has infinite NEP 2 (which is explicit as ****) and it is a chinese novel (4k chapters, 5 novels, ongoing).
And it will be introduced next week. So ya, if Anos get it, thats sick.
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Who was gonna try to work on infinite/ Ad infinitum layered NEP for Graham and Anos again? I might've figured out a better way to argue for it.

I'm sure we're all familiar with this quote that gives every single character limited RPL/AD

At first glance it seems like they just get a stat increase but that's not all it does.
Because of this ability;
  • Sasha Necron was able to overcome death multiple times when being trained by anos, was stated to have surpassed all demons of the magical Era
  • Hero Kanon was able to survive after using <gavuel> (a spell that explodes all the magical power in the casters source, including the magical power of all their future selves) despite having only 1 source remaining (not sure if lay survived here or anos stopped the spell).
  • Anos was able to regain his true power before his reincarnation, gain resistance to <Beno Ieven> that rejects, destroys and erases from existence whatever it interacts with. He was also capable of surviving and overcoming the effects of Egil Grone Angdroa, a world destroying spell, despite only being a 5-A character
  • Curse king kaihiram and his mentor "Noor Dorfmund's" curses are capable of overcoming their natural resistance to their curses and becoming more powerful overtime with the power gained from them approaching destruction.
As seen in these cases, not only do their stats increase, they also gain better resistances + their hax gains more layers each time they approach destruction.

Graham as he approaches destruction gets closer to his true nothingness ultimately become nothing and regenerating from it. As a result of the established mechanic of approaching destruction, his latter nothingness with each destruction, would ultimately excede the former one each time.

Anos speculates that it may take destroying graham billions of times before he is completely destroyed as he believes nothing is eternal but in the event that he is wrong and graham's nothingness is truly eternal, then graham's nothingness would continue to be destroyed for eternity in his source even if anos himself perishes.

Conclusion: Basically from the above, anos and graham would gain;
  • At least a billion to Infinite/ Ad Infinitum layers of NEP
  • At least a billion to Infinite/ Ad Infinitum layers of Void Manipulation
  • At least a billion to Infinite/ Ad Infinitum layers of Nonexistence Erasure for Anos and Venuzdonoa.
So, any thoughts guys? Think it might work?
@Fixxed, @EldemadeDityjon, @Dread, @Dereck03, @Orioreeem, @Sen, @Overlord_THE_END, @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless
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Rejected go cry about it
 
Dread said:
Good luck, just saying that only one character has infinite NEP 2 (which is explicit as ****) and it is a chinese novel (4k chapters, 5 novels, ongoing).
And it will be introduced next week. So ya, if Anos get it, thats sick.
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Actually infinite layers into ain't uncommon if you consider DND characters
 
Dread said:
Good luck, just saying that only one character has infinite NEP 2 (which is explicit as ****) and it is a chinese novel (4k chapters, 5 novels, ongoing).
And it will be introduced next week. So ya, if Anos get it, thats sick.
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Sun wukong?
 
Tatsumi504 said:
This Wiki loves to write off a lot of stuff NLF, flowery language, wank, L, ratio etc.
Just thought it'll be good to have a definite number
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Well, the next time, they make the argument, ask them to prove it. A feature of hyperboles and flowery languages is that the context itself disproves it were we to analyze it closely.

We can determine NLF by gauging the power of the verse and the knowledge of the character.
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Who was gonna try to work on infinite/ Ad infinitum layered NEP for Graham and Anos again? I might've figured out a better way to argue for it.

I'm sure we're all familiar with this quote that gives every single character limited RPL/AD

At first glance it seems like they just get a stat increase but that's not all it does.
Because of this ability;
  • Sasha Necron was able to overcome death multiple times when being trained by anos, was stated to have surpassed all demons of the magical Era
  • Hero Kanon was able to survive after using <gavuel> (a spell that explodes all the magical power in the casters source, including the magical power of all their future selves) despite having only 1 source remaining (not sure if lay survived here or anos stopped the spell).
  • Anos was able to regain his true power before his reincarnation, gain resistance to <Beno Ieven> that rejects, destroys and erases from existence whatever it interacts with. He was also capable of surviving and overcoming the effects of Egil Grone Angdroa, a world destroying spell, despite only being a 5-A character
  • Curse king kaihiram and his mentor "Noor Dorfmund's" curses are capable of overcoming their natural resistance to their curses and becoming more powerful overtime with the power gained from them approaching destruction.
As seen in these cases, not only do their stats increase, they also gain better resistances + their hax gains more layers each time they approach destruction.

Graham as he approaches destruction gets closer to his true nothingness ultimately become nothing and regenerating from it. As a result of the established mechanic of approaching destruction, his latter nothingness with each destruction, would ultimately excede the former one each time.

Anos speculates that it may take destroying graham billions of times before he is completely destroyed as he believes nothing is eternal but in the event that he is wrong and graham's nothingness is truly eternal, then graham's nothingness would continue to be destroyed for eternity in his source even if anos himself perishes.

Conclusion: Basically from the above, anos and graham would gain;
  • At least a billion to Infinite/ Ad Infinitum layers of NEP
  • At least a billion to Infinite/ Ad Infinitum layers of Void Manipulation
  • At least a billion to Infinite/ Ad Infinitum layers of Nonexistence Erasure for Anos and Venuzdonoa.
So, any thoughts guys? Think it might work?
@Fixxed, @EldemadeDityjon, @Dread, @Dereck03, @Orioreeem, @Sen, @Overlord_THE_END, @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless
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Graham's nothingness is beyond infinite layers of NEP 2. He is beyond the concept of NEP 2 it self

I mean his nature is divided by 3 type of nothingness (not 3 type in the wiki)
1. Source of nothingness
2. Pure nothingness
3. And the last is Original nothingness, that will come after infinite destruction/infinite deeper of Pure nothingness
 
Fixxed said:
Graham's nothingness is beyond infinite layers of NEP 2. He is beyond the concept of NEP 2 it self

I mean his nature is divided by 3 type of nothingness (not 3 type in the wiki)
1. Source of nothingness
2. Pure nothingness
3. And the last is Original nothingness, that will come after infinite destruction/infinite deeper of Pure nothingness
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Yeah, this is still a better way to argue for it. The last argument was dismissed as only 1 layer
 
Fixxed said:
Graham's nothingness is beyond infinite layers of NEP 2. He is beyond the concept of NEP 2 it self

I mean his nature is divided by 3 type of nothingness (not 3 type in the wiki)
1. Source of nothingness
2. Pure nothingness
3. And the last is Original nothingness, that will come after infinite destruction/infinite deeper of Pure nothingness
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eh no one gonna really buy this type of argument but u can try
 
Yeah none will accept this, the last thread was not accepted bcz mod didn't think that the NEP2 was layered in first so add more layer to it would not help
 
I know we wouldn't be getting layered NEP in the wiki because of less Knowledgeable members ( more like few ) well that's what it is then.
 
Fixxed, no. 5A is solid, whether you like seeing him losing his 2-A placement in a stupid thread or not.
Literally, we went through this. Not going for your personal preference. There is evidence that it is bigger than 2-A, ignoring it is your own personal thing.
 
Dread said:
Fixxed, no. 5A is solid, whether you like seeing him losing his 2-A placement in a stupid thread or not.
Literally, we went through this. Not going for your personal preference. There is evidence that it is bigger than 2-A, ignoring it is your own personal thing.
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He is 2-A with 6 steps of gilieriam naviem though🗿🚬
 
Dread said:
Fixxed, no. 5A is solid, whether you like seeing him losing his 2-A placement in a stupid thread or not.
Literally, we went through this. Not going for your personal preference. There is evidence that it is bigger than 2-A, ignoring it is your own personal thing.
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Where the evidence the future world crystal is bigger than 2A?
 
Fixxed said:
Then why this explanation exist?
In that explanation there are no mention about bubble or silver bubble

We even have pre-silver sea and silver sea key
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The people are on fire.
In the next moment, everything in the world went up in flames.
The sky, the earth, the sea, and everything else is reduced to black ash, and then, the silver bubble pops and disappears.
"The magic that drove Falluforral to its destruction was, oddly enough, the same magic that was used in the previous baptism, Extreme Hell Destruction Ash Demon Mortar <Egil Grone Angdroa>."
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Tatsumi504 said:
He beat eques with Gilieriam Naviem+ Grega
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Low 1-C / 2 = Low 1-C for both

And a grega would obviously not be Low 1-C by itself.
 
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