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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

I just think

Levine guilma can erase anyone who pull it out from entire point of time (past, present, future)

And veneziara can use it by embody the possibilities. Its mean the possibilities is not bound by entire point of time or not bound by past, present, future

So the possibilities is another reality
Because there are possibilities that you will pull it out that encompasses past, present, future
And there are possibilities that you will not pull it out
If order is accepted as plot then Graham Regeneration will be one hell of an broken ability 😴😴😴
 
What can reason be compared to?
From what I understand

Order (Plot) < Normal Gods ( they can manipulate fate but not as potential as Chief God) < Chief Gods (Fate Manipulation) < Reasons Manipulation (Logic Manipulation)

I don't know how to say but in MGF fate manipulation surpasses plot by feats and statements. ( Well only if you consider order as plot)

Reason manipulation surpasses all.
 
Not really sure about what you're trying to propose, can you elaborate it more? Also now that you mentioned it, shouldn't source existing in every points time serve as another evidence that future does indeed exist?
I mean, every possibilities that encompasses by veneziara is another reality/timeline, because one possibility can hold every point of time in it (past, present, future)

It also mean, with veneziara you can have acausality type 3, because can exist in another reality simultaneously
 
From what I understand

Order (Plot) < Normal Gods ( they can manipulate fate but not as potential as Chief God) < Chief Gods (Fate Manipulation) < Reasons Manipulation (Logic Manipulation)

I don't know how to say but in MGF fate manipulation surpasses plot by feats and statements. ( Well only if you consider order as plot)

Reason manipulation surpasses all.
So what can it be compared to in other verses? Like can it be comparable to plutonic concepts?
 
Tbf... Order = Fate/Possible Plot, Laws, Concepts.... So Plot is equivalent to those..... Also order are dualities, and reason is far beyond those... And MEoCD, Venuz, Anos, Graham & Sasha's Eyes are above reson
 
Need to work on layers of haxes. It's should be 99* Uncountable layers if you ask me based on each world has limited order and different laws and concepts. Being in 2 would give you countless laws and concepts of Shallow layer 1 order which makes you resistance to all shallow layer haxes.
 
Where is it stated or shown that it would make you resistant to all shallow layer haxes?
You can use magic bullet world Arc where nothing was working Until they used deep drum and deep zelis in magic bullet world.

Also Gio graze or something wasn't affecting deeper layers. And the lighting magic Anos uses inclined to be deeper magic. Celis still has mystery about his past who knows.
What is this uncountable? How does it translate to layers? How are you going to use something like that and not be able to qunitfy it.
Don't know but if you consider layers as dimensional then possible but not sure about how we treat it now. As for uncountable comes from countless worlds existing in each layer. Each world has different order.

Eve zenio and hyfollia are best example.
 
How exactly would these 99 layers work? If the difference from one tier to the next is immeasurably higher, to the point that spells capable of destroying 2-A structures cannot scratch a boat on a higher layer. This looks almost like higher dimension
 
I have a question.
Shouldn't Anos be able to use Wavy Body Probability Manifestation <Venejiara> to activate the M.E.O.C.D without suffering the repercussions just like how he used the almighty sword Levine Girma?
You're assuming the possibility of MEoCD not destroying everything exists
 
Btw, author use Schrödinger's cat to explain the possibilities
全能のパラドックス VS シュレーディンガーの猫 みたいな感じです。
It's like the omnipotent paradox VS Schrödinger's cat.
Mhmhmh....... Schrödinger's cat according to MWI theory can have likely uncountable infinite number of universe
low 1C Future world 😀
 
How exactly would these 99 layers work? If the difference from one tier to the next is immeasurably higher, to the point that spells capable of destroying 2-A structures cannot scratch a boat on a higher layer. This looks almost like higher dimension
Probably just going to be treated the same as before. Above baseline 2-A, then layers.
 
So what can it be compared to in other verses? Like can it be comparable to plutonic concepts?
1. There is no platonic concepts in vsbw.
2. In some you can get order of order to platonic.
3. But in others you have to prove that the concept transcends all spatial dimensions to get platonic concept.
 
1. There is no platonic concepts in vsbw.
2. In some you can get order of order to platonic.
3. But in others you have to prove that the concept transcends all spatial dimensions to get platonic concept.
I see. The only use of Reason I see is it giving higher transduality.
 
Tbf... Order = Fate/Possible Plot, Laws, Concepts.... So Plot is equivalent to those..... Also order are dualities, and reason is far beyond those... And MEoCD, Venuz, Anos, Graham & Sasha's Eyes are above reson
Doesn't order encompass non-duality as well if you count arcana?
 
I'm confused, from the recent CRT where all low 2-C, 2-C, 2-B feats got upgraded to 2-A, was their lifting strength supposed to get affected as well? Cause I was told to upgrade Sasha's but the same change wasn't made in other profiles.
So should her lifting strength be changed back to superhuman or do all profiles 2nd key get immeasurable too?
 
I'm confused, from the recent CRT where all low 2-C, 2-C, 2-B feats got upgraded to 2-A, was their lifting strength supposed to get affected as well? Cause I was told to upgrade Sasha's but the same change wasn't made in other profiles.
So should her lifting strength be changed back to superhuman or do all profiles 2nd key get immeasurable too?
Ups, I just noticed that there is no multiverse level+ in striking strength (my bad)

It should be immeasurable according to https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lifting_Strength

@Dereck03 Ahm, mind fixing it? I will drop all profiles tho

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Aisha_(Maou_Gakuin) (for this profile, I am sure I edited durability to multiverse level+ did you edit it back?
 
There is an MFTL+ speed feat from Shin Pre Silver Sea arc. It's in allfiction wiki calculation. If Oblivion wants he can bring it to this wiki. Just saying or we need to give that feat to this wiki calculation thread & later upgrade others speed.
 
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This user did changes to Anos and the user got only one edit. He added higher beside 2-A, we did not agree on that, tho.
 

This user did changes to Anos and the user got only one edit. He added higher beside 2-A, we did not agree on that, tho.
I already saw it, but it should be either EGA or gilieriam to get "Higher"
We need low 1C or higher cosmology to say higher. That's what oblivion said.
 
Ups, I just noticed that there is no multiverse level+ in striking strength (my bad)

It should be immeasurable according to https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lifting_Strength

@Dereck03 Ahm, mind fixing it? I will drop all profiles tho

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Aisha_(Maou_Gakuin) (for this profile, I am sure I edited durability to multiverse level+ did you edit it back?
@dereck did you check this post?
 
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