Major Prehardcore Terraria revisions (Possible 5-C downgrade)

[Lou_change]

I also still dont understand how stopping solar eclipses from ever happening gives 5-C tiering, when that just sounds more like probability manipulation.

It prevents you from summoning solar eclipses too.

What does that dispute about it being powerful enough to hold these sort of beings down?

Are you going to address my recent question?

Why isn't that evidence of 5-C early game Terrarian? The argument for scaling was that the Wall of Flesh used a special energy system why doesn't that apply to the Blood Zombies who became stronger with the Blood Moon's curse twisting them and giving them magic blood that can alter the rotation of the moon.

Besides that there are the World Feeders hardmode enemies who are directly compared Eater of Worlds being just as deadly and Guide's uses fighting normal hardcore enemies for his ap justification.

 

[DMUA]

I also still dont understand how stopping solar eclipses from ever happening gives 5-C tiering, when that just sounds more like probability manipulation.

A Solar Eclipse, especially something forcing the issue like the Solar Tablets, would involve the moon moving and that's 5-C as a default if it can't be calculated. Probability manipulation is a leap and a half from a phenomenon just ceasing to occur whatsoever, especially when it has a physical vector.

 

[DMUA]

Are you going to address my recent question?

That's just, a very large leap. Blood Moons altering and empowering zombies have absolutely no shown relation to the bloody tear, it's just an item that drops and it's description just gives a castlevania reference. A blood moon isn't even something that requires the moon to be moved or physically altered in any sense like a solar eclipse having the sun and moon overlap, it's purely a magic phenomenon.

I don't agree with NPCs being 5-C, they only ever get one power upgrade and it definitely doesn't let them fight off Hardmode enemies reliably (you can see this by the fact I never edited that into the page)

 

[Skarfz]

A Solar Eclipse, especially something forcing the issue like the Solar Tablets, would involve the moon moving and that's 5-C as a default if it can't be calculated.

makes sense, but for WoF to scale it would need proof hes using raw energy to seal it, which isnt implied to be the case and its just him sealing them by existing

 

[Lou_change]

A blood moon isn't even something that requires the moon to be moved or physically altered in any sense like a solar eclipse having the sun and moon overlap, it's purely a magic phenomenon.

It is a lunar eclipse

 

[Deidalius]

Has this reached a consensus?

 

[Lou_change]

Has this reached a consensus?

No

 

[Deidalius]

Tough

 

[Lou_change]

Bump

 

[Lou_change]

they only ever get one power upgrade

False and are you including steampunker who not only wields a hardmode gun with post mech ammunition but the Guide says this about her, "I hear there's a woman out there well-versed in fighting back the forces you just unleashed", the pirate who is stated to be a pirate captain, and uses the same weapon as the hardmode pirate captain enemy, the cyborg who is implied to be made from the grenade launcher Plantra drops in this quote, "Machines aren't so bad. Maybe we can build one of our own, if we can just get some explosive weaponry from the jungle..." and uses to other post plantra weapons?

 

[Lou_change]

Bump

 

[Lou_change]

Bump