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Madoka 1-A Upgrade?

If there is no counter argument about the anti-feats so the result still the same
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Puella Magi Verse 1－a or high aupgrade

Madoka transcends time, space, and causality. Here is the translation of the original text: Madoka stated her wish: "To eliminate all witches, past and future." This grand wish, transcending time and space, sealed Madoka's fate to become the ultimate and most powerful witch. However, at the end...
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LOLfaswer123 said:
Bro, no, why should I wait for someone else to do a Madoka argument when I can do it on my own?
Not to mention, I don't even know who you are, or if your actually knowledgeable.
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Goodluck then. I'm out. Just don't get this topic banned please 😉
 
LOLfaswer123 said:
I literally explained in the same and next paragraph why its either 0D or low 1-A.
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Well the argument is still supposing that dimensionless stuff can only ever be either 0-D or low 1-A even without meta-conceptual realm stuff. This wiki inherently recognizes that stuff can be neither 0-D or low 1-A with BDE type 1. It's pretty much a false dilemma.
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
Well the argument is still supposing that dimensionless stuff can only ever be either 0-D or low 1-A even without meta-conceptual realm stuff. This wiki inherently recognizes that stuff can be neither 0-D or low 1-A with BDE type 1, it's pretty much a false dilemma.
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What do you mean by this?
BDE type 1 is just this:
"Characters who lack spatiotemporal features entirely, while not actually being superior to them in nature. They are simply ontologically different from any dimensional construct, but can ultimately still be comparable to dimension-bound entities in terms of raw power. Due to being aspatial and atemporal, they are obviously immune to conventional Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation, and since they are not part of the spacetime continuum, they usually have Acausality (Type 1).
Note, however, that simply being incorporeal is not sufficient for this ability. The character must specifically not be a part of space at all, while incorporeal beings (e.g. Ghosts) can still have extension in it, despite their lack of bodies." That's not a proof that a Dimensionsless/Directionless "space" can be more things than 0D and Low 1-A.
I've heard a lot of people saying stuff like this, and I've never understood it, I looked at almost every page I could find in this wiki, and there is nothing that actually says that "Dimensionsless/Directionless can be more things than 0D and Low 1-A". Where is it stated that a directionless "space" can be more things than 0D and Low 1-A?

And if you forgot what I said at the start:
LOLfaswer123 said:
I am not that good at scaling by myself, its first time trying to scale someone on my own without help, so please don't judge me.
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Hold on. Did you read the first paragraph of the blog you've apparently copied from?
If you want to use this blog for anything or show it to anyone, ask its creator's permission before. You can contact ZeroTwo either here or on Discord (ZeroTwo#0043). It's forbidden to use this blog for upgrade threads on VS Battles Wiki and other regressive powerscaling sites because its author doesn't care about them.
You have literally copied someone else's blog word for word (which is plagiarism and is not allowed on the wiki) and unless ZeroTwo here has changed his stance in private, he has blocked usage of it on VSBattles anyways. It's not even a matter of arguments, this is just not allowed.
https://character-stats-and-profile...o64/User:ZeroTwo64/Why_Ultimate_Madoka_is_1-A (3 of the four sections in this blog have been lifted and put in here.
 
DragonZeroNova said:
Hold on. Did you read the first paragraph of the blog you've apparently copied from?
If you want to use this blog for anything or show it to anyone, ask its creator's permission before. You can contact ZeroTwo either here or on Discord (ZeroTwo#0043). It's forbidden to use this blog for upgrade threads on VS Battles Wiki and other regressive powerscaling sites because its author doesn't care about them.
You have literally copied someone else's blog word for word (which is plagiarism and is not allowed on the wiki) and unless ZeroTwo here has changed his stance in private, he has blocked usage of it on VSBattles anyways. It's not even a matter of arguments, this is just not allowed.
https://character-stats-and-profile...o64/User:ZeroTwo64/Why_Ultimate_Madoka_is_1-A (3 of the four sections in this blog have been lifted and put in here.
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What do you mean about this? I saw this argument on discord.
So okay...I just looked at the link you sent, and it looked very similar to what I was sent to, by sent, I mean, someone gave me scans, links, and told me how to make a proper argument in VS battle wiki(because as I said at the start, its my first time making an argument by myself), and I just made the argument that is in this thread.
I didn't know that someone already made this argument.
The person who sent me these scans is "lionheart1234" on discord, you can go talk to him.
 
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LOLfaswer123 said:
What do you mean about this? I saw this argument on discord.
So firstly, I just looked at the link you sent, and it looked very similar to what I was sent to, by sent, I mean, someone gave me scans, links, and told me how to make a proper argument in VS battle wiki(because as I said at the start, its my first time making an argument by myself), and I just made the argument that is in this thread.
I didn't know that someone already made this argument.
The person who sent me these scans is "lionheart1234" on discord, you can go talk to him.
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Alright, so first off, that person who actually made these sections (and you can look at them both and see that they are word for word) stated in that blog not to use it for this wiki at all. Beyond that, I don't think I can directly point you as to where it says you cannot do that (though I'm sure more experienced wiki members and/or fandom members know the exact rule), but if you check RVR, there have been many instances of plagiarism being banned/considered a violation. Even if you did not know, which I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you didn't, this would still be considered plagiarism (especially because you unknowingly didn't give credit). https://vsbattles.com/search/9336251/?q=plagiarism&t=post&c[thread]=107529&o=relevance

Edit: That doesn't mean that you can't make the same kinds of arguments if you wrote it yourself and made your own content, it's just that these sections are literally copied off ZeroTwo64's blog. Like, word for word in the exact same writing style.
StrymULTRA said:
The nefarious and evil Type 1 BDE:


Holy shit the arrogance lol.
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Yeah, but that is why I think it's unlikely ZeroTwo64 gave permission lol
 
You won't get banned for this if it's an honest mistake. This thread should probably be closed, but I'm not going to report you and if you acknowledge that this was just a mistake, I don't think anyone else will report you.
As for this lionheart guy, unless he has an account here, there is nothing that can really be done. If he does, you can report him here for this if you want.
If you still wish to attempt a Madoka upgrade, there is the general thread https://vsbattles.com/threads/puella-magi-verse-revival-discussion-thread.154525/ where you can talk about this stuff and from what I understand, there is also a discord there. They can probably help you way more then I can.
Edit: If you can screenshot the convo you had with him and save it, that would go a long way to ensure you won't be banned if this makes its way to rvr. Just some insurance so it's not a possible 'he said, she said' situation.
 
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LOLfaswer123 said:
I've heard a lot of people saying stuff like this, and I've never understood it, I looked at almost every page I could find in this wiki, and there is nothing that actually says that "Dimensionsless/Directionless can be more things than 0D and Low 1-A". Where is it stated that a directionless "space" can be more things than 0D and Low 1-A?
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Welcome to the Gang Kid, we've got:
(Aka no, you can be BDE 1 and still have non 1-A stats).
 
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