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Madness Combat Discussion Thread: Redeemer


Just look on S-3Lf Eater's page and click on "incarnation" word, which contains a scan

The Machine was already said to manipulate and define stuff like fate and pretty much everything else in the universe, so it being able to bend probability is unsurprising
Not only is that super vague to a point it wouldn't be worth listing it as an ability, that's a feat for Nexus Core, not the machine. That description is referring to how it was created.
 
Not only is that super vague to a point it wouldn't be worth listing it as an ability, that's a feat for Nexus Core, not the machine. That description is referring to how it was created.
It was created from the Prime Code brought by Nexus' benefactors and The Machine is literally mentioned in the next sentence

And I don't see how it's vague: it just straight tells you that this is a manifestation of the probability matrix, which aligns with the description of The Machine
 
It was created from the Prime Code and The Machine is literally mentioned in the next sentence
Yes... By the Nexus Core... It was created to permanently destroy S-3LF using The Machine's prime code. The Machine didn't do anything in it's creation.
And I don't see how it's vague: it just straight tells you that this is a manifestation of the probability matrix, which aligns with the description of The Machine
Read it again.

The description says that it's a carefully manifested manipulation of the probability matrices, which basically means nothing without more context. It's still referring to it's creation by Dr. Gonne, so it's still a feat for the Nexus Core anyways. it wouldn't apply to anyone but them.
 
Yes... By the Nexus Core... It was created to permanently destroy S-3LF using The Machine's prime code. The Machine didn't do anything in it's creation.

Read it again.

The description says that it's a carefully manifested manipulation of the probability matrices, which basically means nothing without more context. It's still referring to it's creation by Dr. Gonne, so it's still a feat for the Nexus Core anyways. it wouldn't apply to anyone but them.

Fair, ig

But AE 1 for The Machine is still reasonable anyway, as it not only stated to control everything in the universe (Including more non-physical things like Fate, Direction and Story), but also alluded to be something without what the universe wouldn't exist, which fits the description of Conceptual Abstract Existence Type 1 (On the top of fundamental information and other meyaphysical concepts, like fate)
 
But AE 1 for The Machine is still reasonable anyway, as it not only stated to control everything in the universe (Including more non-physical things like Fate, Direction and Story), but also alluded to be something without what the universe wouldn't exist, which fits the description of Conceptual Abstract Existence Type 1 (On the top of fundamental information and other meyaphysical concepts, like fate)
Doc and The Maker have statements about The Machine for Abstract Existence, so it's a no brainer.
 
Random ideas for Vsthreads when I decide to get around to revamping some of the other guys’ pages:

Deimos VS Scout (TF2) -Probably a stomp lowkey

Sheriff VS The Courier (Fallout)

Tricky the Clown VS Flowey (UNDERTALE)

Project: Gestalt VS The Titan (Deltarune)

The Auditor VS Dio Brando (JJBA) -Heaven Ascension DIO is probably the only way to make this fair

Burger Gil VS Peppino (Pizza Tower)

ATP Engineer VS Shaggy Rogers (Scooby Apocalypse)

NEXUS Core VS The Sentry (MCU)

Bossman VS Freddy and Friends (Five Nights at Freddy’s)

Director Phobos VS Asgore Dreemurr remake (if the high 8-C upgrade happens)
 
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Leave my bossman alone 😔
Bossman would probably decisively win any thread he was in on a 1-1 with the fnaf animatronics (besides a select few) considering he heavily outstats them in every category besides LS.

only way i could think of making it interesting was to throw the whole band against him at once.
 
Bossman would probably decisively win any thread he was in on a 1-1 with the fnaf animatronics (besides a select few) considering he heavily outstats them in every category besides LS.

only way i could think of making it interesting was to throw the whole band against him at once.
That wouldn't even be interesting, they don't have many teamwork feats lol

And we both know the haxy ones are no-gos
 
Do they genuinely not work together at all throughout The Week Before?
Not really. They mostly go one by one, the only time they work together is a couple endings and to be honest it's not even good enough teamwork when literally every single one of their tricks don't work well enough and Boss has durability above their bites.
 
Not really. They mostly go one by one, the only time they work together is a couple endings and to be honest it's not even good enough teamwork when literally every single one of their tricks don't work well enough and Boss has durability above their bites.
they're so ******* useless bro. No wonder William got away with killing their asses. Absolutely no survival instincts up there. goddamn.
 

Bossman is on the wiki (his page was done for a few days, idk why i didn't submit it)

Now, theoretically i could throw him against a 9-B Freddy Fazbear and see what'd happen, but idk. seems like a terrible idea.
 
Random ideas for Vsthreads when I decide to get around to revamping some of the other guys’ pages:

Deimos VS Scout (TF2) -Probably a stomp lowkey

Sheriff VS The Courier (Fallout)

Tricky the Clown VS Flowey (UNDERTALE)

Project: Gestalt VS The Titan (Deltarune)

The Auditor VS Dio Brando (JJBA) -Heaven Ascension DIO is probably the only way to make this fair

Burger Gil VS Peppino (Pizza Tower)

ATP Engineer VS Shaggy Rogers (Scooby Apocalypse)

NEXUS Core VS The Sentry (MCU)

Bossman VS Freddy and Friends (Five Nights at Freddy’s)

Director Phobos VS Asgore Dreemurr remake (if the high 8-C upgrade happens)
I think Scout does have wincoins but Deimos is simply most likely to win
 
MORE VSTHREAD IDEAS GRAAAAAH!!!! Wanted to think of more matches formadness characters that don't have profiles yet/aren't used very often

MAG Agent: Torture VS Eren Yaeger (Attack on Titan)

Status Quo VS The Fun Gang (Deltarune)

Arena Mode Player vs Spamton NEO (Deltarune)

Dr. Crackpot VS Rick Sanchez (Rick & Morty) - The Auditor or Auditor-Absorption Tricky would be a lot more fair, but who tf cares bout that???

Dr. Crackpot VS Dio Brando (JJBA)

The Blackguard VS Black Scorpion (City of Heroes) - Originally was used for a Hank match, but i think the blackguard character-wise fits as a matchup against Black Scorpion more (at least from what i understand from Reaper)

Skinner MD VS Professor Pyg (DC Comics)

Quartermaster Bert VS Sebastian Solace (PRESSURE)

Hive VS Joy Kill (Dark Deception)

The Sun VS Great Lord Gwyn (Dark Souls) - Joke Matchup

Jebediah Christoff VS HUNTR/X (KPOP Demon Hunters) - Purely aura points. There is nothing in common with these characters. I think it's just cool lol.

Jebediah Christoff VS Billy Butcher (The Boys)

Scrapeface VS Havik (Mortal Kombat)
 
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The Blackguard VS Black Scorpion (City of Heroes) -Originally was used for a Hank match, but i think the blackguard character-wise fits as a matchup against Black Scorpion more (at least from what i understand from Reaper)
Feel free to browse the other characters from CoH lol, I have several members of the Surviving Eight I haven't made and haven't even made most of the Arachnos Patrons.

Give me a list and I'll see what I come up with.
Hive VS Joy Kill (Dark Deception)
Don't know what this is, but either it doesn't dodge and gets ******, or it has good enough heat resistance and AP/LS
 
Don't know what this is, but either it doesn't dodge and gets ******, or it has good enough heat resistance and AP/LS
It's a mag agent that Phobos must've suggested while on drugs, because it's a infinitely self-replicating Mag Agent that ***** out biomass minions to fight for it. Which also wears armor around itself that makes it invulnerable. Lowkey just threw it in there for vibes alone.

It might have a heat resistance, i'd have to go back and check it's bossfight.
 
It's a mag agent that Phobos must've suggested while on drugs, because it's a infinitely self-replicating Mag Agent that ***** out biomass minions to fight for it. Which also wears armor around itself that makes it invulnerable. Lowkey just threw it in there for vibes alone.

It might have a heat resistance, i'd have to go back and check it's bossfight.
Yeah Joy Kill isn't that good lmfao
 
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