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Lookism Discussion Thread

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Looks like mid to high end 9-A, I’ll try calculating it later. Though that structure really is inconsistent, why is the bottom part so small? The statues of Shingen and the other 3 will also take some guess work.
 
You guys remember when Lookism was about Daniel trying to make friends and about standing up to bullying while commenting on societal issues about South Korea.
To be fair it still does, but its more about class issues and how social discrimination leads people to crime

We can't have 600+ chapters where every arc is just "hot people can be evil, ugly people can be good! People will judge others unfairly just because they are ugly" etc
 
Why doesn't Manager Kim scale to High 8-C? He pretty easily damages Tom Lee during his interview to the white tiger job center, as well as when he quits. He also fights and damages King, who is able to ragdoll Tom.
 
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Why doesn't Manager Kim scale to High 8-C? He pretty easily damages Tom Lee during his interview to the white tiger job center, as well as when he quits. He also fights and damages King, who is able to ragdoll Tom.
Probably just forgot to include him tbh, though a caveat is that he should be >= 50% Tom Lee so it'd be Likely High 8-C
 
He also fights and damages King, who is able to ragdoll Tom.
Lowkey not true SMK fought a weak version of King who didn't had God's Realm and his Body was crumbling every second meaning he was weakening yet SMK needed Closer's help to nip his leg off and end him

And ragdolling Tom isn't really a good feat even 2A yunseong and Mandeok were sending him flying, also to add up King says his attacks didn't went through Tom at all, the same attacks that put down 100% patch Hansu
 
Lowkey not true SMK fought a weak version of King who didn't had God's Realm and his Body was crumbling every second meaning he was weakening yet SMK needed Closer's help to nip his leg off and end him

And ragdolling Tom isn't really a good feat even 2A yunseong and Mandeok were sending him flying, also to add up King says his attacks didn't went through Tom at all, the same attacks that put down 100% patch Hansu
King only put down Hansu after an extensive battle and because Hansu was handicapped by an injury— he also had more endurance and stamina because of his physique. Hansu when he got serious was breaking King's bones with each attack. And even after he kept beating Hansu, Hansu was able to remain conscious long enough to pierce King's chest with his fingers. Even Jincheol was capable of going up against King and taking attacks from him with relatively little damage and was only really surprised because of King's superhuman endurance allowing him to fight at peak condition constantly rather than just his raw strength.

This also doesn't erase the countless other times Kim harms and fights on par with Tom.
 
In the second panel, it wouldn't be correct to use the statue's height as a reference because of perspective. That would inflate the results.
What would be a better reference point than? I changed it to using the Japanese guy at the bottom with the average height of 1.71 meters and got even bigger results (not much bigger but like a 25% increase).
 
And ragdolling Tom isn't really a good feat even 2A yunseong and Mandeok were sending him flying, also to add up King says his attacks didn't went through Tom at all, the same attacks that put down 100% patch Hansu
Sending people flying is generally not even a feat, since those kinds of movements tend to only support body weight, and we must remember that in Lookism we are dealing with humans who surely weigh between 70 and 100 kg exerting forces massively greater than Class 5.
 
King only put down Hansu after an extensive battle and because Hansu was handicapped by an injury— he also had more endurance and stamina because of his physique. Hansu when he got serious was breaking King's bones with each attack. And even after he kept beating Hansu, Hansu was able to remain conscious long enough to pierce King's chest with his fingers.
Again, nah. Hansu wasn't injured, he was just old. We see that in the flashback panel... it wasn't about injury, it was just him getting old. I mean, every character from the Old Gen is just old and out of their prime.
And again, I'm saying Hansu was barely able to hold onto his consciousness to deliver that blow to the heart. Meanwhile Tom literally took no damage, as King himself said: "none of my attacks went through him.” English may not be my first language, but I'm sure I know that means low to no damage.
So that's the comparison: a guy who got laid out by King after he used God's Realm, vs a guy who barely took any damage despite King using God's Realm.

Even Jincheol was capable of going up against King and taking attacks from him with relatively little damage and was only really surprised because of King's superhuman endurance allowing him to fight at peak condition constantly rather than just his raw strength.
Nope. Base Jincheol barely did any damage to King. He almost got knocked down from the helicopter. He needed War Mode and a flashback to get back into the damn aircraft, and yet he didn't fight King. He just slammed the pilot and took 3 chapters with him. He barely fought King, and the moment he got overwhelmed he dipped out.

This also doesn't erase the countless other times Kim harms and fights on par with Tom.
Yeah, but during those encounters Tom never went all out. During their last fight he was drunk or holding back. And to back this up, Manager Kim literally says nothing would work against Tom (he meant weapons) and he wouldn't imagine Tom losing to something while he himself had wires wrapped on his fist.
And the biggest statement/feat that favours Tom being above SMK: during the Interview he damaged SMK's arm so badly that it was barely usable for the next 80 chapters, while Tom barely had any injury from the Interview. The only reason he stopped was because SMK was destroying his furniture.
 
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Again, nah. Hansu wasn't injured, he was just old. We see that in the flashback panel... it wasn't about injury, it was just him getting old. I mean, every character from the Old Gen is just old and out of their prime.
Does it matter what the reason is, lol? The point of the argument is that he was handicapped by something, whether an injury or simple physical aging.
And again, I'm saying Hansu was barely able to hold onto his consciousness to deliver that blow to the heart. Meanwhile Tom literally took no damage, as King himself said: "none of my attacks went through him.” English may not be my first language, but I'm sure I know that means low to no damage.
So that's the comparison: a guy who got laid out by King after he used God's Realm, vs a guy who barely took any damage despite King using God's Realm.
He literally didn't get "laid out," though. Hansu was matching him up until a certain point and was having several clashes with him and even breaking his bones. And Tom didn't even take "no damage," just because he wasn't bleeding from his nose. Tom took damage and acknowledged that King was putting up a good fight, and King even caught one of enraged Tom's punches.
Nope. Base Jincheol barely did any damage to King. He almost got knocked down from the helicopter. He needed War Mode and a flashback to get back into the damn aircraft, and yet he didn't fight King. He just slammed the pilot and took 3 chapters with him. He barely fought King, and the moment he got overwhelmed he dipped out.
He didn't get overwhelmed, he was fine, he specifically notes the God's Realm giving King superhuman endurance rather than the damage he took from his attacks.
Yeah, but during those encounters Tom never went all out. During their last fight he was drunk or holding back. And to back this up, Manager Kim literally says nothing would work against Tom (he meant weapons) and he wouldn't imagine Tom losing to something while he himself had wires wrapped on his fist.
And the biggest statement/feat that favours Tom being above SMK: during the Interview he damaged SMK's arm so badly that it was barely usable for the next 80 chapters, while Tom barely had any injury from the Interview. The only reason he stopped was because SMK was destroying his furniture.
He can hold back his strength and not his durability. Kim does harm Tom multiple times with both his bare hands and his wires, that's a fact, the fact that he's just physically weaker than Tom means he downscales.
Sending people flying is generally not even a feat, since those kinds of movements tend to only support body weight, and we must remember that in Lookism we are dealing with humans who surely weigh between 70 and 100 kg exerting forces massively greater than Class 5.
Yeah, but these guys also can overpower people trying to lift or throw them all the time. I feel like if you can do that, then it's a clear showing of superior or at least comparable strength.
 
Does it matter what the reason is, lol? The point of the argument is that he was handicapped by something, whether an injury or simple physical aging.
By that logic, Tom is more handicapped than Hansu, yet he didn't get laid out despite not having his dominant hand. Out of his prime, by his own words, Tom would have one-shot King if they were in their primes. Just because he isn't in his prime doesn't mean he's handicapped, when Tom is literally handicapped by the textbook definition.
He literally didn't get "laid out," though. Hansu was matching him up until a certain point and was having several clashes with him and even breaking his bones.
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Literally laid out after King used God's Realm.
While Tom didn't even have a scratch when King used God's Realm, he was ready to slam King. He only stopped because Jincheol gave him the soft copy of the letter

And Tom didn't even take "no damage," just because he wasn't bleeding from his nose. Tom took damage and acknowledged that King was putting up a good fight, and King even caught one of enraged Tom's punches.
Can you quote me where Tom admits he got hurt by that attack? Because if I remember correctly, he just said "Gimme more and fight harder to make me forget this pain," something like that. And catching punch isn't even good feat since King already healed himself via God's Realm, so he was back to peak conditioning

He didn't get overwhelmed, he was fine, he specifically notes the God's Realm giving King superhuman endurance rather than the damage he took from his attacks.
Again, not true. He did no damage, got thrown out of the aircraft by 2-3 hits, then got a flashback and used War Mode just to slam the pilot and dip out with his people.
So yeah if gets flashback and needs mode instead of base, I think it's safe to say that Jincheol got overwhelmed
He can hold back his strength and not his durability. Kim does harm Tom multiple times with both his bare hands and his wires, that's a fact, the fact that he's just physically weaker than Tom means he downscales.
Nope, I don't really remember Kim ever giving Tom an almost crippling injury like Tom gave Kim. The only thing I remember is him giving him nosebleeds. So can you show me where Kim gave Tom some serious damage, like Tom gave to Kim?
 
Literally laid out after King used God's Realm.
While Tom didn't even have a scratch when King used God's Realm, he was ready to slam King. He only stopped because Jincheol gave him the soft copy of the letter
There is no "using" or not using it. He's in that state perpetually. He doesn't activate it. Hansu was matching him when he was in God's Realm the entire time and doing damage; you can't just ignore him literally breaking King's bones.
By that logic, Tom is more handicapped than Hansu, yet he didn't get laid out despite not having his dominant hand. Out of his prime, by his own words, Tom would have one-shot King if they were in their primes. Just because he isn't in his prime doesn't mean he's handicapped, when Tom is literally handicapped by the textbook definition.
Again, why does this matter? Tom scales to High 8-C whether he's in his prime or aged. Whether or not he's fighting an old Tom Lee or a young one, that's scaling regardless.
Can you quote me where Tom admits he got hurt by that attack? Because if I remember correctly, he just said "Gimme more and fight harder to make me forget this pain," something like that. And catching punch isn't even good feat since King already healed himself via God's Realm, so he was back to peak conditioning
How does this prove the feat isn't good? 😭 He was in peak condition, so him literally visibly overpowering Tom isn't a feat? Tom is literally bruised visibly, you can see that he took damage.
Again, not true. He did no damage, got thrown out of the aircraft by 2-3 hits, then got a flashback and used War Mode just to slam the pilot and dip out with his people.
So yeah if gets flashback and needs mode instead of base, I think it's safe to say that Jincheol got overwhelmed
Getting thrown out of the aircraft didn't deal any damage to him. He was still completely fine.
Nope, I don't really remember Kim ever giving Tom an almost crippling injury like Tom gave Kim. The only thing I remember is him giving him nosebleeds. So can you show me where Kim gave Tom some serious damage, like Tom gave to Kim?
He slices Tom and makes him bleed a bunch with his wires. And even giving him serious nosebleeds like that means he at the very least downscales anyways.
 
There is no "using" or not using it. He's in that state perpetually. He doesn't activate it. Hansu was matching him when he was in God's Realm the entire time and doing damage; you can't just ignore him literally breaking King's bones.
Still doesn't put him above Tom though, because Hansu broke his own bones. So for durability, King and Hansu are equal. And Tom with Unique Skill should casually be above King, so that means he's above Hansu as well. And him maintaining his prime is passive ability not regen we literally see he needs to focus to heal himself if he had passive regeneration, he could have healed whole fighting Tom or Hansu, but nah he literally takes a step away and focuses to use it
Again, why does this matter? Tom scales to High 8-C whether he's in his prime or aged. Whether or not he's fighting an old Tom Lee or a young one, that's scaling regardless.
Valid point but still doesn't change about other's scaling, they can get possibly rating but i don't think they shown anything impressive to get above possibly. S2 versions might get higher ratings but again lack of feats
How does this prove the feat isn't good? 😭 He was in peak condition, so him literally visibly overpowering Tom isn't a feat? Tom is literally bruised visibly, you can see that he took damage.
Again, no damage, not even a nosebleed. And King, the attacker himself, said his attack didn't go through him. So if the attacker isn't sure, then how are you saying Tom got damaged? And where does Tom acknowledge he got damaged by that attack? There aren't even any bruises, and Tom literally said he was letting himself get attacked, as i quoted earlier where he demands to get more hits.
Getting thrown out of the aircraft didn't deal any damage to him. He was still completely fine.
Yeah getting thrown out of Aircraft isn't big deal but needing A Flashback and And Literal Phase/Mode/Amp is sign of getting overwhelmed/overpowered it's like saying Hudson didn't got overwhelmed by Arin just because Hudson had flashback and needed Amp of Strength Mastery to beat Arin
He slices Tom and makes him bleed a bunch with his wires. And even giving him serious nosebleeds like that means he at the very least downscales anyway
Slicing isn't really a good feat since sharp things can still negate durability in the PTJ verse. And even I thought a nosebleed was enough but few days ago Pyro corrected me, since it falls under haemoptysis, so it isn't usable. And I also think we shouldn't consider that damaging, since Pre-3A Johan was able to make Tom nosebleed. If we go by that, then we go through the "Everyone being H8C" crisis.
 
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What would be a better reference point than? I changed it to using the Japanese guy at the bottom with the average height of 1.71 meters and got even bigger results (not much bigger but like a 25% increase).
This didn’t solve the problem. Because the angle is bad, the characters appear smaller. This inflates the result.

Find the forearm length of the statue in the first panel. If you use that as a reference in the second panel, it would be better.

Also, you must not forget that not all of the volume has been fragmented.
 
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