After Sun Wukong tanked the explosion created by Nezha's seal, his power got nullified as later he becomes powerless here (8:50) and needed to restore it
Should I make a separate thread then?
I'm not gonna lie, that just looks like he got tired/lost his stamina. Is there a scene where it's directly stated Nezha has power null? Specially because... Nezha doesn't have powernull in the first place.
All of those statements can be equally valid under the interpretation that he's super tough without requiring actual invulnerability.
Nezha doesn't have powernull in the first place, so...
The main problem is you are reasoning a mechanism because you're parting from the premise he does have invulnerability, when what you should be getting first is proper evidence of its existence. As has been brought by Armor, invulnerability has contradictions, is not elaborated and you're also relying on a power from an opponent that in the scenes you have linked, doesn't seem to be elaborated as well.
Wait isn't statistic reduction powernull?
Statistics reduction shouldn't matter for Invulnerability. Heck, statistics reduction would actually completely show its about physical toughness rather than nullifying damage (<---- what invulnerability should do), so that right there completely settles it on my view.
Well I wasn't aware that Nezha has his own profile but he should have powernull as in the scan I showed, Sun Wukong lost his ability to fly and forming clouds after fighting Nezha. He also lost his immortalities and needed to restore his power in order to gain them back here (10:25) and here (2:54)
We might wanna call a few more supporters - I doubt there's real evidence but it seems fair to not just depend on one user to prove the opposite
Can I propose powernull for Nezha via the scans shown by Casper? I'll also be fine with invul removal if that's what you guys agree
Well you guys need direct statements like "the concept of damage is negated" in order to qualify to conceptual invul. I don't believe the verse has something like that, I was just hoping for a possibly rating but it's fine
I don't think the scans brought so far point towards power null, but if there's more, I'm down for it.
Well I did show when Wukong's power got nullified by Nezha, he lost his:
Ah, that's better yeah. I can agree with power null then.
Watching the first one, it seems what nullifies Wukong is trying to push himself through the barrier. So the earlier fight with Nezha would still be a contradiction for invulnerability specifically, specially when Wukong directly uses his abilities (specifically his cloning/duplicates) to restrain Nezha.
I don't think I can add anything else but I do want to point out the only contradictions of invulnerability it's because of Nezha (Casper has pointed out how his magic is special as it can nullify Sun Wukong's powers which would include his invulnerability)
Hmm but we also did saw that Nezha's magic was able to directly effect the concept of fate (in the OP, it's mentioned that the invulnerability can be bypassed if you have CM)
The problem is less regarding the contradictions and more the lack of evidence.
Oh thats why i couldn't find my comment on the roblox general discussion tread,sorry for the acidental derail guys
That goes back to what I mentioned earlier. That only works as an explanation if you reason the existence of Invulnerability in the first place, which we lack a proper reason for it to exist first.
Yeah we don't have direct elaborations, only supporting statements/feats and puzzle stuff like "Oh Fate users can use their power onto themselves and when Wukong lost his power, he loses his invulnerability so it must be his power that grants him it".
My Internet is going in and out so I've been unable to reply consistently, I'll try and respond today if able.
The current staff thread invulnerability thread would affect this CRT if pass no? I think we should hold off and see if LMK qualifies for at least type 1
Yeh, a layer should be fine for that case. In fact, Wukong would likely get a few resistances based on this change (since instead if just plain negating damage, he's actually straight resisting because of his toughness). That can be its own dedicated thread later
Do you agree with Lephyr? So the thread be concluded
Yeh, a layer should be fine for that case. In fact, Wukong would likely get a few resistances based on this change (since instead if just plain negating damage, he's actually straight resisting because of his toughness). That can be its own dedicated thread later
We understand, buddy.
This is not considered as an official agreement. I definitely prefer if he directly says if he's in favor or not, as currently only the bit about CM has two agreements (Griffin's and my own).
And the power null
You applied it?Ty'all for the help fr, so can the crt be closed please?
I'll get someone else to do it later since I'm on phone rn
