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You know that goku get stronger the longer is the fight right?KuuIchigo said:Er okay? In any case, Lightning can outlast Goku for so long with her defensive abilities and stamina while debuffing and wearing him down and then finishing him off.
Goku can easly dodge everything she throws at her with ultra instinct.KuuIchigo said:Er okay? In any case, Lightning can outlast Goku for so long with her defensive abilities and stamina while debuffing and wearing him down and then finishing him off.
In some weeks Goku will transform in ultra instinct without that weakness, anyway put me Inconclusive, I think the ultra instinct is incomplete and needs a better explanation.PostmodernD said:Goku only has getting stronger and the mafuba. One has a time limit, and the other I don't know enough about to have confidence it would work.
That might be true, but piccolo say that he is evolving.Blanked said:The only reason Goku is getting stronger during the battle is because he still didn't reach the full potential of UI and his new form. I thought that much was obvious.
The way you said that sounds like a stomp.ScarletFirefly said:People are really overestimating Goku's instinct here. Dodging slashes and stuff, fun. Dodging AoE spells that have debilitating effects, not that fun anymore.
Goku's reactive evolution is just another fancy word for Zenkai and gives off the wrong message (which is why I was against this wording in the first place). All it does it make him stronger during the course of the fight. And that won't matter much if he's getting debuffed to hell and back including speed, attack and defense. He can literally get oneshot by several of her abilities and be incapacitated by several others.
Also Mafuba? Are you for real? That thing is for sealing away demons and last time I checked, Lightning isn't a demon. And even if she was, you really think a sealing technique would work against someone with Soul Manipulation? Goku isn't using that technique against haxless villains in his own franchise so...yeah, that's useless.
Oh you mean those times where Goku fought them in CQC?Myriadofmemes said:Vs Buu/Cell = a full on retreat.