Lex Luthor DCU Downgrade

[Dalesean027]

So we just got a new Lex Luthor DCU profile made and its great HOWEVER I noticed they have him scaling to 8-B+ durability but like I don't think I need to explain why this is wrong, Krypto was not going for a kill here and Superman did NOT even attempt to kill him even remotely let alone hit him with lethal force so I propose he just goes back down to 10-B durability since dude is legit just a regular human durability wise.


And we should reword the justification to Lex's perceptions to him being able to actively read superman's moves in combat to do counters in real time instead of it being about him running when he saw Superman approaching

Lex Luthor (DC Universe)

Alexander Joseph "Lex" Luthor is a brilliant and corrupt billionaire businessman, the former CEO of LuthorCorp and the sworn archenemy of Superman. Developing a deep sense of envy and jealousy against Superman for his popularity on Earth, Luthor attempted to figure out numerous ways to kill him...

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[Random-Helper323]

This makes sense. I don't recall Luthor ever fighting Superman or Krypto for real.

 

[Machmatej]

Makes no sense for a regular ass dude to have the same durability rating as the strongest metahuman

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Easy agree

 

[Tonygameman]

Very straight-forward if you're asking me. (aside some actual facts he and Ultraman has in both our threads and Lesshe's versions on another wiki)

 

[Zabazab]

Yeah the durability is whack due to Superman obviously not being a killer, and Krypto just playing with him (breaking his arm in the process).

I agree that him being able to respond in real time to Superman's moves with commands to Ultraman is a way better justification on account of it being an actual feat, rather than just Lex trying to run when he saw Superman in the distance.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Yeah, looking over it, Superman deliberately holds back with Luthor and people in general, and Krypto seems to be just playing and subduing.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks simple enough.

 

[LordTracer]

Yeah, easy agree from me. Although I will say, Lex getting mauled by Krypto could get moved to his stamina justification.

 

[Dalesean027]

Yeah, easy agree from me. Although I will say, Lex getting mauled by Krypto could get moved to his stamina justification.

Im fine with that

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Yeah, easy agree from me. Although I will say, Lex getting mauled by Krypto could get moved to his stamina justification.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Hard agreement here

 

[Maikolpry]

Agree

 

[Nierre]

all agreeable

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

The MHS reaction speed and perception should be removed as well, as Lex was literally blitzed, otherwise I agree.

 

[Dalesean027]

The MHS reaction speed and perception should be removed as well, as Lex was literally blitzed, otherwise I agree.

This I disagree with, he should retain his reactions and perceptions, him being blitzed was more a matter of travel rather than saying he can normally combat and operate at that speed but he does have the feats to back reactions since his analytical prediction and directing og Ultraman is entirely based on him in real time reading Superman's moves mid combat and giving the appropriate counters on the fly with 2500 moves for any situation


If his reactions or perception didn't at least downscale then he can't do what he does here

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

This I disagree with, he should retain his reactions and perceptions, him being blitzed was more a matter of travel rather than saying he can normally combat and operate at that speed but he does have the feats to back reactions since his analytical prediction and directing og Ultraman is entirely based on him in real time reading Superman's moves mid combat and giving the appropriate counters on the fly with 2500 moves for any situation


If his reactions or perception didn't at least downscale then he can't do what he does here

Oh right, I see what you mean then. But either way, it should only just be reaction speed while adjusting the justification

 

[Lonkitt]

Don't worry guys he can still use the totally-combat-applicable 3-A prep to Lex all over his enemies!!!!

In all seriousness though, as things stand, Lex shouldn't scale to Superman at all. His durability shouldn't scale to Superman/Krypto's AP and Lex certainly shouldn't scale in reactions

I agree

 

[HonestlyBored24]

so I propose he just goes back down to 10-B durability since dude is legit just a regular human durability wise.

I dunno, this kind of looks like 9-C to me.

 

[Dalesean027]

I dunno, this kind of looks like 9-C to me.

potentially but it'd need a calc

 

[Maikolpry]

How many admins need to vote for this to be implemented?

 

[Lonkitt]

How many admins need to vote for this to be implemented?

Two mods are required. It doesn't have to be admins. Could be two thread mods too

The thread has already reached that requirement. Once the thread is 48 hours old, it can be applied assuming nothing gets in the way

 

[KLOL506]

Did people actually scale Lex's dura to the two? Supes literally broke his arm with a shove, Krypto was mauling him and leaving deep bite marks all around.

Also I think Lex should have some more weaknesses added on to the list, like extreme arrogance, narcissism and his obsession with metahumans - Particularly Superman in general

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Spoiler

Peacemaker showed Lex walking with a cane after the events of Krypto's attack, so yeah, multi-city block durability should definitely go

 

[Dalesean027]

Changes have been applied, closing this