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And that's not including the ones that get used 10 or more times on the page.
Pretty sure I used one of them like 50 times since it had so much stuff in it.
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"Let's Talk About Magic"-Part 2: Magic P&A/Potency Revision & Explanation Page
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Pretty sure I used one of them like 50 times since it had so much stuff in it.
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Dang, this was super well-done! I'm not really that knowledgeable on Marvel Comics, but the quality of the thread and sandbox were so good that I easily got a grasp on everything you were talking about.
If I ever get around to making the revisions I've been planning for some other series, I hope that the quality of those threads will hopefully live up to the quality of this thread and TartaChocolate's Final Fantasy revisions.
If I ever get around to making the revisions I've been planning for some other series, I hope that the quality of those threads will hopefully live up to the quality of this thread and TartaChocolate's Final Fantasy revisions.
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Great job, well-done, and finally my man Nightmare got his profile updated.
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Thank you very much, and yeah before this I made sure to upgrade his horrifically outdated profile with powers and scans.
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Btw, I know I already gave magic NEP (Nature 2, aspects 1, 2, and 3), but while this thread is open, would it be possible to also give it aspects 4 and 5 of NEP Nature 2 due to the following scans:
[Magic] is the in-between. The fraying edge between reality and unreality. A hidden string secretly linking all things that only the adroit may tug free.
The realm of Lord Chaos/Master Order is made of magic (as it is the "mystical universe", aka the magic half of Earth-616), and that realm is stated to lie between the polarities of actuality and between fact and fiction,[36] being a universe of dualities[37] where all dichotomies blend together and cease to exist.[38]
Would the second group of scans (mainly the stuff regarding the mystic universe being a universe of dualities where all dichotomies blend together and then cease to exist) also qualify for some if not all aspects of NEP Nature 3?
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Well if anyone would be pleased it'd be Dormammu, since (at least on paper) he's one of Marvel's haxxiest sorcerers right now.
1. Has his own stuff from my previous CRT (Low-Godly regen, a bunch of Immortalities, Type 1 Abstract Existence, Low 1-A Chaos Hax).
2. Likely has Hell-Lord hax, as he has been considered a Hell Lord on a few occasions, giving him all the demonic goodies like Power Null, Death Manipulation, Void Manipulation, etc.
3. Faltine Physiology (Types 1 & 4 of Acausality, High 1-B HDE, BDE Type 1, Incorporeality, and a handful of neat resistances) and Faltine Magic (Void Manipulation/Existence Erasure, Power Nullification, Law Manipulation, Death Manipulation, etc.)
4. And of course, Sorcerer Supreme level magic (Layered Basic Magic P&A, even better Fate Hax, Invulnerability and Invulnerability Negation, Time Hax on par with the Infinity Gauntlet, BFR with High 1-B range, Low 1-A absorption/Summoning, and some more nice resistances).
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If it's to link the Magic in Marvel page I think other members can help, just need to unlock the profiles
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Don’t forget he should also have power absorption and all the powers/states of multi-eternity in his high 1a key for absorbing eternity’s very essence
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1. Cool, thanks!
2. For NEP 3, do you think it would also be for all aspects? Just want to be sure.
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Ooooh, didn't think about that.
I'll probably make a future CRT with that as one of its proposals.
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Noted, and thank you for commenting!
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Would another CRT be needed? Eternity's already going to have all types of magic and its resistances, so it's like adding an extra mastery/physiology key, plus he already has nigh-omniscience and omnipresence as justifications on his page
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For Dormammu in his 2nd key having all the powers of Multi-Eternity?
I would much rather just make a 2nd CRT for it and other magic stuff in the future.
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The future CRT would be to upgrade magic potency right? If that's the case then addressing it later is fine. Just thought two birds could be killed with one stone after all, he has no powers in that key, despite speed and intelligence stats saying otherwise.
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Make MArvel Magic 10D
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That reminds me of how amazed and amused I was when I found the scan literally supporting Marvel's hax being at least 11D based on M-Theory.
As in M-Theory is flat out stated in the scan and they say that magic is believed to be the source of it.
Most Battleboarders wish they could get stuff that blatant for their own verses.
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Okay, uh, stupid question, but doesn't Low 1-A potency put the hax way beyond 11D?
EDIT: To be fair, it just feels right? Comics have always been very crazy with their feats, so things getting this busted feels incredibly fitting.
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Oh yeah, Sui was just joking.
And I put the 11D scan in the section of "Higher Dimensional Potency of Magic" just as support for magic itself having higher-dimensional potency.
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During a small tournament event called "Contest of Chaos", hosted by Agatha, she lured Moon Knight and Taegukgi into a "Chaos Zone", a location filled with crystal made of Chaos Magic. Said crystal transformed MK and Tae into different forms of themselves, called "What-Ifs" and controlled their minds into fighting. Later on, Moon Knight was able to break free from the control and gave up. This was from Moon Knight 2021 Annual 2.
So Chaos Magic can also have Transformation and Power Bestowal. And MK resistance to basic Chaos Magic?
So Chaos Magic can also have Transformation and Power Bestowal. And MK resistance to basic Chaos Magic?
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The Chaos Magic Powers stuff would probably be for a separate CRT, but yeah, them resisting Chaos Magic seems fine.
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Shouldn't Adam Warlock also have basic magic usage ?
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I have no idea what Quantum magic is, except that it seems too different from normal magic AFAIK.
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He can astral project and banish people
Quantum magic could also just be a new form of magic since it's subjective.
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Bump
Also I'll save NEP 3 for a future thread if more staff are just unsure on it.
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Since radiation has magical properties, one might argue that one above all should possess basic magic usage but, given its TOAA i think its reasonable to assume he would have mastery over all forms of magic and its resistances ?
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You'd need to make sure that The One Above All follows the specific Power Inheritance Standards.
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Doesn’t he transcend multi-eternity who already has such ? I’m not implying he owns magic but it’s clear he can use it. Wouldn’t be far-fetched to assume he has mastery over it.
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The Basic Magic is only for gamma mutates.
Yeah but since he is the creator of the Marvel Multiverse, there should be an exception since there is no way Strange, Wanda, Doom and the rest can have superior magic level over TOAA.
Like, we can just have on his profile; Sorcerer Supreme Level (As the ostensible Supreme Being of Marvel Comics, being the creator of the whole multiverse and the realms outside of it, responsible for setting in place both existence and the clockwork machinery that keeps it afloat, his knowledge should be superior to the likes of Doctor Strange, Dormammu, Eternity)
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wait a minute does this mean Galactus has CM now? i don't have to worry about my Galactus CM CRT?
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I agree.
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He is only getting resistance
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