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Basically the 1000 scaling chain, except replace 1000 with infinity resulting in well "infinite layers"Idk what you're referring to, sorry.
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Basically the 1000 scaling chain, except replace 1000 with infinity resulting in well "infinite layers"Idk what you're referring to, sorry.
I guess?? It's still not 100% clear what you're referring to.Basically the 1000 scaling chain, except replace 1000 with infinity resulting in well "infinite layers"
That's a scaling chain that 4 long and people claim it's 4 layers.I guess?? It's still not 100% clear what you're referring to.
I mean yeah, ofc the thread is dealing with that. Why wouldn't it?That's a scaling chain that 4 long and people claim it's 4 layers.
A > B > C > D > E
Now replace the number 4 (how long it is) with infinity. (And well I can't really show a infinity long scaling chain)
someone already tried doing that, but.... yeahWhat if we forced people to write the layers on the profile with CRTs? Wouldnt it stop this whole abusing thing since it would have to be accepted beforehand?
this is how it should be anyway tbfWhat if we forced people to write the layers on the profile with CRTs? Wouldnt it stop this whole abusing thing since it would have to be accepted beforehand?
I wouldn't be opposed to that.What if we forced people to write the layers on the profile with CRTs? Wouldnt it stop this whole abusing thing since it would have to be accepted beforehand?
This is absolutely the best solution but there's no way in hell that's happening. Getting staff to change the profile formatting standards is like pulling teeth.What if we forced people to write the layers on the profile with CRTs? Wouldnt it stop this whole abusing thing since it would have to be accepted beforehand?
Hmm would they be opposed to just making a note asking people to write layers on the profiles?This is absolutely the best solution but there's no way in hell that's happening. Getting staff to change the profile formatting standards is like pulling teeth.
That's part of the proposal.Hmm would they be opposed to just making a note asking people to write layers on the profiles?
Nice, I agree with the CRTThat's part of the proposal.
Regarding this specific example, doesn't gravity hax fall under an ability which can be quantified like fire manipulation?this is how it should be anyway tbf
i.e
Gravity Manipulation (7 Layers - [justification])
fair point actuallyRegarding this specific example, doesn't gravity hax fall under an ability which can be quantified like fire manipulation?
Name individuals not entire verses if u really want to do shit about it + i doubt this thread was made specifically about NNT.Not going to name names, but I will name verses. NNT is prolly the biggest abuser of this.
Agreed i don’t even think it should be discussedNow this is a subject that's becoming increasingly more annoying to deal with, namely because of how easily abused "layers" are made out to be.
The Issue
Let's get right into it shall we? As we all know people tend to abuse layers to inflate a characters powers and abilities while simultaneously confusing a scaling chain for layers of negation, some some verses even having a supposed "100 layers." which is ridiculous to even think.
I keep seeing the term layered being thrown around for power's and abilities, which typically leads to inflation. Such as nonsense like "Steve>>>>> Paul >>>> Todd >>> Gregory>>>>> Amanda >>>>> Bob >>>>>> Frank >>>> Ralph's fear manipulation." being passed as actual layers. The issue with this however is that this shouldn't qualify for layered hax. That's just a simple scaling chain, which doesn't necessarily mean anyone of the aforementioned characters are capable of outright negating the other's resistances.
Actual layers would be whenever character A bypasses the resistances of character B who's resistance allowed them to withstand fire's that teach temperature hotter than the core of the sun.
For something to be considered layered it should be stated or shown that a character can bypass another's resistance. Not just "character A being stronger than character B so that means A can automatically bypass B's resistance despite A never being shown to be able to do so." As this leads to a massive amount of inflation for the simple sake of inflation to make things seem more impressive than they really are. There's at least 12 separate verses that abuses this issue but I won't be naming them of course.
The Solution?
Stop allowing these scaling chains to be passed as layers. In order to qualify for layered hax it should be outright stated that a character can bypass another's resistance, not just them being stronger.
Essentially, a resistance needs to be shown being overcome in order to be truly layered.
Feel free to discuss.
Even when it comes to mind hax, how will layers work?fair point actually
though there is a difference between WITHSTANDING gravity hax (lifting strength) and resisting/being immune to it, which is what layers would be for?
i get what you're saying though, just imagine i said mind or soul hax or powernull or something
But when it comes to something like mind control, so many people have varying levels of resistanceA layer is basically each time you bypass a resistance.
Being superior is just upscaling