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Lapis lazuli vs Toshiro Hitsugaya
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Toshiro can freeze all of her attacks, contact with him/his sword power nulls things and he can also instafreeze whatever is in front of after 4 second charge. He also passively freezes anything that touches him.
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Toshiro FRA and the fact that she has water powers is gonna be a bad time for her imo.
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She does also have ice manip. Her main problem is Shiro's whole "power null with everything I do".
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Yeah but more water will just make life easier for Toshiro.
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Well,learning towards Toshirou FRA right now.
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How far into High 6-A is Toshiro?
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56 petatons
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56? You mind linking me the calc.
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The Gremmy calculation was multiplied by 6 via each Clone being a boost to his imagination since he stated 2 of them doubled his imagination power and at full power he made 6 clones,
Meteor was 18 petatons and was divided by 2 and multiples by 6,as linked on the bottom of Kenpachi's page for the discussion.
Meteor was 18 petatons and was divided by 2 and multiples by 6,as linked on the bottom of Kenpachi's page for the discussion.
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Ah, I thought we only scaled from the two clones not all six. Either way the scaling chain would be as follows.
56 petatons = Eyepatch Shikai Kenny < Shikai Kenpachi =< God size Gerard << Vollstandig Gerard < Hotsugaya.
56 petatons = Eyepatch Shikai Kenny < Shikai Kenpachi =< God size Gerard << Vollstandig Gerard < Hotsugaya.
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Okay, and whats saving Lapis from flying into space and dropping the ocean on him repeatedly? Lapis is able to control ice and the states of matter in which the water she controls is so if he freezes it she can just turn it into water again.
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And he turns it back to ice, that was literally a lot of his fight with Harribel.
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And she turns it back into water
So its basically going to become a shoving match which Lapis with her Class Z lifting strength would win
So its basically going to become a shoving match which Lapis with her Class Z lifting strength would win
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Why would lifting strength be of relevance here? His ice has power nullification and he can passively freeze all forms of matter,he could just use shunpo and touch her.
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What exactly is there to power null? If he tries to freeze the combined mass of all the world's oceans being dropped on him all he does is make it so its now an ocean sized block of ice instead of water.
Scans of him being able to shunpo into outer space?
Scans of him being able to shunpo into outer space?
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She isn't starting in outer space..he can shunpo to her and freeze her.
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Wait does Toshiro Have that Bleach thing where he passively instakills people weaker than him?
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Well I mean everyone has it but they're both High 6-A with a pretty small gap,I don't think she would die it's just the force of his energy.
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Lapis is only 6-B physically so yes actually she would
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Pretty sure she would need to be much more of a fodder.
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She needs to be pretty close to him for that to happen though. Plus she can exert High 6-A with her magic so Reiatsu crush isn't viable.
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Lapis doesnt use magic
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Lapis using the entire ocean in one go is either one of character or it takes a great amount of time, so she isn't going to fly outspace and cover the planet's surface in water, not at the beginning.
How good is Toshiro's freezing? Even if Lapis can't use the entire ocean, she can still use great amouns of water (it also depends where the fight takes place).
How good is Toshiro's freezing? Even if Lapis can't use the entire ocean, she can still use great amouns of water (it also depends where the fight takes place).
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He can freeze all forms of matter, and in 4 senconds he has a flash freeze I believe.The thing with his ice is that whatever is encased in it gets power nulled.
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I mean that the passive would need her to be more of a fodder.
Like, I doubt it has killed people less then at least two whole tiers below the user,
Like, I doubt it has killed people less then at least two whole tiers below the user,
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Does Lapis have any kind of supernatural energy to be equalized? If not Reiatsu crush gg.
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We give characters Reiatsu regardless.
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No, the Lapis Lazuli are innately terraformers, is not magic nor psychic.AnonymousBlank said:
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@Anonymous Nope
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You mean Reiatsu?WeeklyBattles said:
Everyone who fights in Bleach has Reiryoku or Spirit Energy.
When one exerts their Reiryoku outside their spiritual bodies, it becomes Reiatsu or Spiritual Pressure.
Reiatsu has a multitude of effects on others, including paralysis, fear-inducement, phantom pains, leaves you sweating and gasping for air, renders you unconscious, and if the difference is great enough, disintegrates you.
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Isn't everything equalized though
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Any example of how much mass can he freeze, preferible mass of water?Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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That ... really needs to be revised. If we are equating a supernatural energy then it doesn't matter but just giving people powers is kinda BS.
Regardless, how much does she get exactly? By Bleach rules we would scale it to her AP/Dura but her Dura is far less than her AP. If it is just enough to see and interact with him, see Reiatsu crush GG.
Regardless, how much does she get exactly? By Bleach rules we would scale it to her AP/Dura but her Dura is far less than her AP. If it is just enough to see and interact with him, see Reiatsu crush GG.
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Yeah no Toshiro instant Reiatsu crushes which makes this a stomp
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@Antoniofer
Nothing like an entire ocean,the way his powers work is that it manipulates Ice and the power source is pretty much all water in the atmosphere.The only time it was shutdown was with another power that vaporized all water molecules in the atmosphere.
Nothing like an entire ocean,the way his powers work is that it manipulates Ice and the power source is pretty much all water in the atmosphere.The only time it was shutdown was with another power that vaporized all water molecules in the atmosphere.
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Wait does reiatsu work on souless beings?
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<Lapis is 6B physically
Toshiro Reiatsu crushes
Stomp
Toshiro Reiatsu crushes
Stomp
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Looking at Toshiro respect thread it seems he can freeze a considereable amount of volume, is not the entire ocean, not even a lake, but can freeze Lapis conventional attacks.
I think than that kind of Bleach attacks work only in creatures with souls, so it will do anything to a gem.
I think than that kind of Bleach attacks work only in creatures with souls, so it will do anything to a gem.
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