Kyle Rayner vs Zekrom

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Kyle Rayner vs
Zekrom

4-B versions used. SBA. Speed equal

Zekrom:
Kyle Rayner :
Inconclusive

 

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[Setsuna_tenma]

kyle via sealing and hard light constructcts

 

[Imaginym]

Seems like Kyle has Intangibility, Limited Time Manipulation (How Limited?), & also Sealing?

kyle via sealing and hard light constructcts

Even if Zekrom can't evade it, I wouldn't be surprised if Zekrom broke out, since like other Pokemon, it can reasonably often, break out of Poke Balls, which are designed to capture Pokemon.
Also, what's the Durability of Kyle's constructs?
For that matter, how do the AP/Durability of these combatants match up?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Seems like Kyle has Intangibility, Limited Time Manipulation (How Limited?), & also Sealing?

Even if Zekrom can't evade it, I wouldn't be surprised if Zekrom broke out, since like other Pokemon, it can reasonably often, break out of Poke Balls, which are designed to capture Pokemon.
Also, what's the Durability of Kyle's constructs?
For that matter, how do the AP/Durability of these combatants match up?

his constructs are 4B

 

[Imaginym]

his constructs are 4B

Thank you for the clarification. & per the OP, Zekrom is also at 4-B.
So, I'm not sure his constructs are a win condition, given Zekrom can probably break things in the same tier as it.
It might come down to a matter of stamina & flexibility if he's trying to use constructs to win, but there's probably more complexity to it than that.

 

[Garchomp777]

Thank you for the clarification. & per the OP, Zekrom is also at 4-B.
So, I'm not sure his constructs are a win condition, given Zekrom can probably break things in the same tier as it.
It might come down to a matter of stamina & flexibility if he's trying to use constructs to win, but there's probably more complexity to it than that.

Teravolt nullifies resistances, so that can be a problem
For kyles time manipulation, he can recreate all the laws of time on a universal scale

 

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Kyle doesn't use it at the beginning of the battle in character though. If zekrom uses time manipulation kyle would likely just do it as well, too bad zekrom doesn't. So thats not a win con for kyle. And zekrom in character uses electric moves first so it could paralyze with fusion bolt

Does anyone know if teravolt nullifies barriers?

 

[Imaginym]

Teravolt nullifies resistances, so that can be a problem
For kyles time manipulation, he can recreate all the laws of time on a universal scale

He can do that in his 4-B Green Lantern key?

Dunno quite how Terravolt functions in the anime, but in gameplay, it makes attacks be able to deal damage regardless of abilities that grant immunities. Per Bulbapedia:

Generation	Ability
Generation V onwards	Battle Armor, Big Pecks, Clear Body, Contrary, Damp, Dry Skin, Filter, Flash Fire, Flower Gift, Friend Guard, Heatproof, Heavy Metal, Hyper Cutter, Immunity, Inner Focus, Insomnia, Keen Eye, Leaf Guard, Levitate, Light Metal, Lightning Rod, Limber, Magic Bounce, Magma Armor, Marvel Scale, Motor Drive, Multiscale, Oblivious, Own Tempo, Sand Veil, Sap Sipper, Shell Armor, Shield Dust, Simple, Snow Cloak, Solid Rock, Soundproof, Sticky Hold, Storm Drain, Sturdy, Suction Cups, Tangled Feet, Telepathy, Thick Fat, Unaware, Vital Spirit, Volt Absorb, Water Absorb, Water Veil, White Smoke, Wonder Guard, Wonder Skin
Generation VI onwards	Aroma Veil, Bulletproof, Flower Veil, Fur Coat, Overcoat, Sweet Veil
Generation VII	Dazzling, Disguise, Fluffy, Queenly Majesty, Water Bubble

Each Generation listed on the left, is the Generation that the listed abilities began being abilities that would be affected by Teravolt. AFAIK, for all the abilities listed, which Teravolt was affected was accounted for as soon as the new ability or Zekrom were introduced.

 

[Garchomp777]

He can do that in his 4-B Green Lantern key?

Dunno quite how Terravolt functions in the anime, but in gameplay, it makes attacks be able to deal damage regardless of abilities that grant immunities. Per Bulbapedia:

Generation	Ability
Generation V onwards	Battle Armor, Big Pecks, Clear Body, Contrary, Damp, Dry Skin, Filter, Flash Fire, Flower Gift, Friend Guard, Heatproof, Heavy Metal, Hyper Cutter, Immunity, Inner Focus, Insomnia, Keen Eye, Leaf Guard, Levitate, Light Metal, Lightning Rod, Limber, Magic Bounce, Magma Armor, Marvel Scale, Motor Drive, Multiscale, Oblivious, Own Tempo, Sand Veil, Sap Sipper, Shell Armor, Shield Dust, Simple, Snow Cloak, Solid Rock, Soundproof, Sticky Hold, Storm Drain, Sturdy, Suction Cups, Tangled Feet, Telepathy, Thick Fat, Unaware, Vital Spirit, Volt Absorb, Water Absorb, Water Veil, White Smoke, Wonder Guard, Wonder Skin
Generation VI onwards	Aroma Veil, Bulletproof, Flower Veil, Fur Coat, Overcoat, Sweet Veil
Generation VII	Dazzling, Disguise, Fluffy, Queenly Majesty, Water Bubble

Each Generation listed on the left, is the Generation that the listed abilities began being abilities that would be affected by Teravolt. AFAIK, for all the abilities listed, which Teravolt was affected was accounted for as soon as the new ability or Zekrom were introduced.

Zekrom could probably power null the ring


Yeah, he has that in his 4-B key, he doesn't usually use it though

Sealing is Kyle's best bet here

 

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[Cropfist]

Kyle via superior hax.

 

[Imaginym]

Kyle via superior hax.

Which hax in this case? I mean, most of the thread has already been concerned with discussing Kyle's abilities, no?

 

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[Imaginym]

Hang on a second. Teravolt bypasses not just Abilities that grant Immunities & Absorption, but also Damage Reducing abilities.

The only thing that keeps Kyle alive against 4-B threats normally are the powers of his ring protecting him, right?
But abilities like a shield of Green Lantern Aura protecting you from damage is PRECISELY what abilities like Teravolt break through! & being a Legendary Pokemon's ability, unlike, say, Mold Breaker, it's exceptionally potent at this.

& Kyle may not know Zekrom's attacks do this.

So what stops Zekrom from just firing off a bolt of lightning, it ignores his Green Lantern Ring's protection, & he dies of electrocution like any other human would?
(Also, Kyle doesn't have ANY Resistances listed. As in, Ctrl+F-ing his page for "Resist" returns 0 results. I'm surprised it doesn't offer any protection.)

Is there any basis to believe Kyle can take 4-B Electrical Attacks without the powers of his ring protecting him?

 

[Garchomp777]

Hang on a second. Teravolt bypasses not just Abilities that grant Immunities & Absorption, but also Damage Reducing abilities.

The only thing that keeps Kyle alive against 4-B threats normally are the powers of his ring protecting him, right?
But abilities like a shield of Green Lantern Aura protecting you from damage is PRECISELY what abilities like Teravolt break through! & being a Legendary Pokemon's ability, unlike, say, Mold Breaker, it's exceptionally potent at this.

& Kyle may not know Zekrom's attacks do this.

So what stops Zekrom from just firing off a bolt of lightning, it ignores his Green Lantern Ring's protection, & he dies of electrocution like any other human would?
(Also, Kyle doesn't have ANY Resistances listed. As in, Ctrl+F-ing his page for "Resist" returns 0 results. I'm surprised it doesn't offer any protection.)

Is there any basis to believe Kyle can take 4-B Electrical Attacks without the powers of his ring protecting him?

Yeah no resistance. Kinda sad, I really need to do a CRT just to add some simple abilities and resistances. However, range matters here. Don't think Zekrom in character would just zap the whole planet. Kyle can shoot bullets

Also, do you know their joules output?

 

[Imaginym]

Yeah no resistance. Kinda sad, I really need to do a CRT just to add some simple abilities and resistances. However, range matters here. Don't think Zekrom in character would just zap the whole planet. Kyle can shoot bullets

Also, do you know their joules output?

Why would Zekrom need to zap the whole planet?
Also, shoot bullets, like.... Of GL energy from his ring? Or do you mean from a handgun?

I'm not too sure on their stats (Technically, we allow more systems to measure AP than just joules. For example, Tonnes of TNT. But I use Joules because it's just numbers instead of also remembering mass-related prefixes.) & would have to check their scaling, probably.

 

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